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There are so many things wrong with this. First, antigen tests don't determine if you are meaningfully contagious. You might be, you might not be. Second, we don't have at-home tests available for many of those. And third, to the extent we do have tests, it would get very expensive to repeatedly test with a panel of tests anytime you're feeling mildly ill. |
Most people-- particularly those with you g kids-- would prefer to put up with occasional mild illness than go back to 2021. |
everyone i know with young kids has been sick non stop ever since they got covid and stopped masking. most parents are exhausting all their pto anyway just taking care of sick kids home from day care- would be lovely to not have them sick all the time. I enjoyed not getting sick in 2020-2021. https://twitter.com/SaruulbilegE/status/1741017250524729557/photo/1 <-- these are available for $1.50 us in mongolia... |
It's pretty common for young kids to get mild illnesses, or to have vague cold-like symptoms during winter months. That's certainly not new with covid. What was new in 2020/2021 was extended quarantine periods, that were awful all-around. No working parents would ever want to go back to 2021-like policies. |
do you talk to parents in real life? or have you read this forum or any fb mom's group? kids are sick non stop, not just mild stuff. and yes it's been shown repeatedly that covid has led to decreased immune response and increase in things like RSV. i don't want to all be home non stop- i'd like it if people just stayed home when they were sick and wore a mask so that we weren't all sick non stop |
I've got two kids under 8, so yes. No, my kids aren't getting sick more often than before covid. But they're sure missing a lot less school and daycare than they did during covid. Going back to normal is definitely preferable to the crazy policies didn't covid. Same goes for masks. You can wear them all you want, but everyone else is over them. |
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My preschooler had very few illnesses between spring 2020 and spring 2021. In summer of 2021, the constant colds started coming back. Fall of 2022 was a nightmare as it was not just colds but also RSV which got us all really sick. 2023 was much better. We pretty much got through September through February unscathed.
Two factors that had absolutely no impact as these periods of illness were not remotely correlated with these policies being taken away?: - Masking requirements in daycare - Quarantine or isolation requirements recommended by CDC and implemented by daycare |
how old were the kids? were they all unmasking to eat snack, lunch and then nap 2 hours? if so, then yes masks won't do much |
Well seeing as licensing requires all these things, yes. Also saw no change when quarantine requirements were lifted and when isolation was reduced to 5 days. |
| I'm just following CDC guidance like most of you told me to do back in 2020 and 2021. 24 hrs no fever, kids are going back to school. No testing anymore. |
How would kids eat without taking a mask off? And you expect three year olds to nap with masks on? Please just keep your kids home or get a nanny. Your expectations are unrealistic at best. |
+1 the problem is not the snack or napping requirements (there's another thread on napping at daycare), it's the requirement that daycares had to enforce to mask 2-5 year olds. It was obvious at the time that the requirement was ridiculous. |
+1,000,000 |
I’m a daycare worker and I posted about this before especially when we were in the thick of it during Covid. Masking was always theater with little kids. They were eating together, napping together, the masks never, ever fit well. They were always falling off, or they were taking them off. We eventually dropped masking even though it was still a requirement because the masks were all a joke and theater. We had zero Covid cases and transmission within the kids in my care. Any child who did get sick caught it from their parents. IMO, seeing firsthand with many families, why the kids were not sick is because of the isolation requirements and CDC exclusion guidelines which pretty much covered colds and many viruses. We had the CDC backing to tell families to keep their kids out for 10 days with no pushback. So if somebody had a cough and a runny nose, even if it wasn’t Covid, they still had to be out until they tested negative, and their symptoms have resolved which prevented spread within the daycare. I recognize how difficult that was for parents, but during that time we had very little illnesses, and when they were ill, it was not Covid. It was not the masking, it was the exclusion. Fast forward to post pandemic and I observe that kids are sick at the same rate that they were pre-Covid. As you see above, we follow the CDC guidelines and so we no longer require any testing and it’s 24 hours fever free just like any other illness. Honestly, even prior to that we stopped asking parents to test their sick kids because it was a burden and parents cannot afford to miss work for every sniffle. |
But in summer 2021 the masking and quarantine requirements were still in place for the kids and teachers. What changed? Everyone else started gathering again. A year+ of isolation meant bugs started spreading again. I honestly don't think we ever get back to kids never getting sick without shutting everything nonessential down again. |