Way to prove my point. Covid vaccine does prevent COVID, it just doesn’t prevent COVID in 100% of cases. No shot does. If a shot prevents a high enough percentage for long enough and enough people get the shot, the pathogen is essentially eliminated. But, this is why people who don’t get their kids measles shots have successfully created epidemics that include kids who did get shots. |
Where in the world is covid essentially eliminated? |
Are you dense or do you have reading comprehension issues? |
You’re more than a little bit confused on the virology, poster. The reason that measles had reached elimination status in the USA (until very recently when vaccination rates declined) is that we had very high rates of vaccination and measles is not a virus which mutates like coronaviruses do. I’ve lost count of the variants which have emerged since covid19 broke onto the human scene in late 2019, but measles has remained unchanged my entire lifetime which is why the shot I got when I was one or two is still protecting me at 53, whilst I’ve now had several covid vaccinations just as I get a flu shot every year. There are researchers who have been working for years to try to devise a universal flu vaccine and still have not succeeded. A universal covid vaccine is also unlikely anytime in the near future. And virologists have long since admitted that the covid vaccines don’t prevent the spread of covid in any meaningful way - they prevent the recipient from getting serious illness that might end up in hospitalization and/or death. I recently got covid for the first time - working in healthcare and practicing excellent hygiene and precautions I avoided the virus for four years in order to not transmit it to my fragile patients. I limited my exposures significantly and also my social life the last four years to achieve this avoidance. Then I took a job working with kindergartners and was sick within a week of my first day. Paxlovid was terrific and I’m grateful I availed myself of that miracle of pandemic science given my age and risk factors. But yeah covid and measles are two very different viruses. |
Even without mutations, neither infection nor vaccination provide durable sterilizing immunity beyond a few months. It simply reproduces too quickly in your body as your immune system ramps up. |
Of course you can still transmit it to others. You are shocked teachers are returning. They got sick because of you and you have a fit if they are out sick. What kind of person are you? Beyond sending a sick child to school who should be home with their parent. |
Of course I keep my child home when she is not feeling well. This guidance doesn't change that. What you want is for people to stay home/keep kids home when they are not sick. Those days are over. |
Np- would like kids and adults alike to stay home when infectious, with generous paid leave policies, so no one keeps catching your various illnesses |
The problem is you live in a fantasy world where people are able to know exactly when they stop being infectious. So you insist people stay home even when they are feeling fine because of a test that can maybe tell you if you have COVID in your nose. Not whether that virus can be cultured in a lab or actually cause an infection. Even people with access to generous paid leave will struggle to just take 2+ weeks off work unexpectedly. The more you insist this needs to happen despite the low likelihood that they will infect anyone after a couple of days, the more unhinged you sound. |
I'm confused why you don't think we have tests for infectiousness- for multiple viruses ( rsv, adenovirus, etc), cheap and easily available in other countries. Pcr does not measure infectiousness- just the rapid- it doesn't need to be cultured in a lab. Why are you so upset it's measured from the nose? |
Most people have paid leave here. Stop making excuses for your poor behavior. You just want to save your leave for vacations so while you get vacations the rest of us have to use our leave for illness thanks to you. |
Your divorce from reality must have been rough. I feel for you. |
Oh how I wish this was the reality. I get 5 pto per year. But I think if people stayed home when infectious there'd be a whole lot less infections ( aka 2021) and things would be better so we wouldn't have as much missed work ans school. |
This. I work in child care and none of us has tested for over a year now. When we feel sick, we stay home. |
You want to go back to 2021? Yikes. |