Reducing personnel at central office

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Anonymous wrote:Another data point: our parent community coordinator is at our school 24-7, it seems like, working with the food pantry, advocating for more resources, running an after-school dance club, and more. So I guess it depends on the person, the schools, and their needs. But I also did not see one at two other schools I worked at, in over twelve years. So . . . luck of the draw, I guess.

And this is where accountability comes in. If you have an excellent employee, going the extra distance of our families, that is what we are looking for. The problem is that the lazy and/or lost-in-the-woods PCCs can drift through their job without ever being removed. That's a problem. I don't believe I have ever received a survey about the work of PCC, social workers, or ESOL coordinators. We get surveyed about everything else, why not these employees.

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I think there are some good central office staff that do their work but what about the ones that don't? I think that is on whoever their supervisors are. If you left people slide, it makes your office look bad, especially for those that actually do their job.

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Anonymous wrote:They have achievement specialist who used to be teachers but now, go around schools and meet with leadership. They could be cut. They have about 60 parent community coordinators who work from home. They could be cut. They have social workers who work with immigrant students, they should be sent directly to schools and supervised by principals. The social workers work out of Rocking Horse Road Center. Rocking Horse Road Center is another building filled with Central Office staff. They have a Spring Mill office off Kemp Mill Road filled with Central Office. English Manor filled with central office. Some of the Central Office positions are needed, but others are not. Just look to see who gets their PHD while working for Central Office. Those are the people that should be cut.

My high farms, 70% Latinx school needs ours. Although she technically works from home, she is rarely home. She’s out visiting families and is at our school at least two days a week for meetings. My school would be even more dysfunctional without her.

Then you have a PCC who actually does her job. So many do not. They spend their days at home on the computer and not reaching out to families. Ours turns down invites to interact with families in need.

Yes! Same experience with ours! Never at the school and when you send a request to participate in a meeting, they always "have a meeting" at the same time. Who supervises these folks? Who is holding them accountable?

CO Director Everett Davis, former Redland MS principal.

Our school reported ours to Everett Davis and were told "It must be miscommunication" that our PCC tells us he is at other schools while he is supposed to be supporting our school. I think the leadership is where the issues are. They are the only ones to hold their people accountable and from the looks of things, they don't want to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget that the special Ed department is in an actual crisis. Many many schools are left with ZERO certified sped staff (especially in discrete programs such as autism or SCB) and the staff in home school model (general ed inclusion for those who don’t know) are drowning in paperwork and cannot get consults from their instructional specialists or supervisors because there is not enough support in the SPED department. Also- please note that there was ZERO budget for home school model teachers to spend on instructional materials this year. Changes need to made immediately in that department

The terrible state of the Office of Special Education is the next big MCPS scandal that should be the focus of investigation.

This. So much this. Special Education is beyond crisis state, and special ed parents are too exhausted to sound the alarm. Want to talk about pathetic Central Office staff, every single one of them who claim to work for special education need to go

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget that the special Ed department is in an actual crisis. Many many schools are left with ZERO certified sped staff (especially in discrete programs such as autism or SCB) and the staff in home school model (general ed inclusion for those who don’t know) are drowning in paperwork and cannot get consults from their instructional specialists or supervisors because there is not enough support in the SPED department. Also- please note that there was ZERO budget for home school model teachers to spend on instructional materials this year. Changes need to made immediately in that department

The terrible state of the Office of Special Education is the next big MCPS scandal that should be the focus of investigation.

This. So much this. Special Education is beyond crisis state, and special ed parents are too exhausted to sound the alarm. Want to talk about pathetic Central Office staff, every single one of them who claim to work for special education need to go

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Not to be dramatic but as a spec Ed parent I agree. I am exhausted and sick of all talk and no action.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget that the special Ed department is in an actual crisis. Many many schools are left with ZERO certified sped staff (especially in discrete programs such as autism or SCB) and the staff in home school model (general ed inclusion for those who don’t know) are drowning in paperwork and cannot get consults from their instructional specialists or supervisors because there is not enough support in the SPED department. Also- please note that there was ZERO budget for home school model teachers to spend on instructional materials this year. Changes need to made immediately in that department

The terrible state of the Office of Special Education is the next big MCPS scandal that should be the focus of investigation.

This. So much this. Special Education is beyond crisis state, and special ed parents are too exhausted to sound the alarm. Want to talk about pathetic Central Office staff, every single one of them who claim to work for special education need to go

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Not to be dramatic but as a spec Ed parent I agree. I am exhausted and sick of all talk and no action.

Maybe someone in executive leadership will consider dismantling the fiefdom in the OSE and replace Diana Wyles, who is over her head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am an elementary teacher in the county. Some areas of Central office are so understaffed, and other positions could be easily cut. For example, the county added 12 county-level math content coaches this year. They took 12 hard-working school-based teachers AWAY from working with students and placed them in Central in advisory roles. It is a horrible waste of money.

I think we need someone to come in and really evaluate each position and see what can be reduced or combined and what is essential.

Agree 💯. The math content coach from central comes to our planning sessions and offers great ideas…on paper. When we present our actual data showing multiple gaps in students fundamental skill knowledge and ask for feedback regarding implementation, the skill deficits are ignored. I am at a Title I school with many ELL students/newcomers, and while the math content coach has great ideas on paper, it does not translate to what our students actually need. When asked if they could help administer assessments or simply look at the math assessments, we have given, the math content coach clearly articulated “that’s not my job.” What we need is actual support delivering differentiated content and strategies for our students who need the most support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too many admin critters with vague titles at central office. There are also a lot of staff that seem important but have very little impact in schools like the equity office personnel. So many useless trainings that don’t help teachers or impact students in a measurable way.

+1 like the ones that created that staff training for professional day. more damage than any good

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Another data point: our parent community coordinator is at our school 24-7, it seems like, working with the food pantry, advocating for more resources, running an after-school dance club, and more. So I guess it depends on the person, the schools, and their needs. But I also did not see one at two other schools I worked at, in over twelve years. So . . . luck of the draw, I guess.

Our PCC is fantastic. At school. Heavily involved. Would be lost without her.

And this is where accountability comes in. If you have an excellent employee, going the extra distance of our families, that is what we are looking for. The problem is that the lazy and/or lost-in-the-woods PCCs can drift through their job without ever being removed. That's a problem. I don't believe I have ever received a survey about the work of PCC, social workers, or ESOL coordinators. We get surveyed about everything else, why not these employees.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They have achievement specialist who used to be teachers but now, go around schools and meet with leadership. They could be cut. They have about 60 parent community coordinators who work from home. They could be cut. They have social workers who work with immigrant students, they should be sent directly to schools and supervised by principals. The social workers work out of Rocking Horse Road Center. Rocking Horse Road Center is another building filled with Central Office staff. They have a Spring Mill office off Kemp Mill Road filled with Central Office. English Manor filled with central office. Some of the Central Office positions are needed, but others are not. Just look to see who gets their PHD while working for Central Office. Those are the people that should be cut.

My high farms, 70% Latinx school needs ours. Although she technically works from home, she is rarely home. She’s out visiting families and is at our school at least two days a week for meetings. My school would be even more dysfunctional without her.

Then you have a PCC who actually does her job. So many do not. They spend their days at home on the computer and not reaching out to families. Ours turns down invites to interact with families in need.

Yes! Same experience with ours! Never at the school and when you send a request to participate in a meeting, they always "have a meeting" at the same time. Who supervises these folks? Who is holding them accountable?

CO Director Everett Davis, former Redland MS principal.

Our school reported ours to Everett Davis and were told "It must be miscommunication" that our PCC tells us he is at other schools while he is supposed to be supporting our school. I think the leadership is where the issues are. They are the only ones to hold their people accountable and from the looks of things, they don't want to.

Thank you for naming a name - I wonder how much Davis makes per year to obfuscate and deflect?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am an elementary teacher in the county. Some areas of Central office are so understaffed, and other positions could be easily cut. For example, the county added 12 county-level math content coaches this year. They took 12 hard-working school-based teachers AWAY from working with students and placed them in Central in advisory roles. It is a horrible waste of money.

I think we need someone to come in and really evaluate each position and see what can be reduced or combined and what is essential.

Agree 💯. The math content coach from central comes to our planning sessions and offers great ideas…on paper. When we present our actual data showing multiple gaps in students fundamental skill knowledge and ask for feedback regarding implementation, the skill deficits are ignored. I am at a Title I school with many ELL students/newcomers, and while the math content coach has great ideas on paper, it does not translate to what our students actually need. When asked if they could help administer assessments or simply look at the math assessments, we have given, the math content coach clearly articulated “that’s not my job.” What we need is actual support delivering differentiated content and strategies for our students who need the most support.

+1 million. Can you imagine if we, as teachers, ever said, "That's not my job."? I am sick of people making 2 to 3 times my salary who just walk away from getting the real work done, with no consequences. PARENTS ON THIS BOARD: This is a big reason why teachers quit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t forget that the special Ed department is in an actual crisis. Many many schools are left with ZERO certified sped staff (especially in discrete programs such as autism or SCB) and the staff in home school model (general ed inclusion for those who don’t know) are drowning in paperwork and cannot get consults from their instructional specialists or supervisors because there is not enough support in the SPED department. Also- please note that there was ZERO budget for home school model teachers to spend on instructional materials this year. Changes need to made immediately in that department

The terrible state of the Office of Special Education is the next big MCPS scandal that should be the focus of investigation.

This. So much this. Special Education is beyond crisis state, and special ed parents are too exhausted to sound the alarm. Want to talk about pathetic Central Office staff, every single one of them who claim to work for special education need to go

+10000000000000000

Not to be dramatic but as a spec Ed parent I agree. I am exhausted and sick of all talk and no action.

With 4x the number of special ed students than a decade ago it's just tough for them to keep up with the increased demand

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have achievement specialist who used to be teachers but now, go around schools and meet with leadership. They could be cut. They have about 60 parent community coordinators who work from home. They could be cut. They have social workers who work with immigrant students, they should be sent directly to schools and supervised by principals. The social workers work out of Rocking Horse Road Center. Rocking Horse Road Center is another building filled with Central Office staff. They have a Spring Mill office off Kemp Mill Road filled with Central Office. English Manor filled with central office. Some of the Central Office positions are needed, but others are not. Just look to see who gets their PHD while working for Central Office. Those are the people that should be cut.

My high farms, 70% Latinx school needs ours. Although she technically works from home, she is rarely home. She’s out visiting families and is at our school at least two days a week for meetings. My school would be even more dysfunctional without her.

Then you have a PCC who actually does her job. So many do not. They spend their days at home on the computer and not reaching out to families. Ours turns down invites to interact with families in need.

Yes! Same experience with ours! Never at the school and when you send a request to participate in a meeting, they always "have a meeting" at the same time. Who supervises these folks? Who is holding them accountable?

CO Director Everett Davis, former Redland MS principal.

Our school reported ours to Everett Davis and were told "It must be miscommunication" that our PCC tells us he is at other schools while he is supposed to be supporting our school. I think the leadership is where the issues are. They are the only ones to hold their people accountable and from the looks of things, they don't want to.

Thank you for naming a name - I wonder how much Davis makes per year to obfuscate and deflect?

Everett Davis M in 2022 was employed at Montgomery County Public Schools and had an annual salary of $201,701.

[Anonymous]

Moco is too big. Needs to be divided in half.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have achievement specialist who used to be teachers but now, go around schools and meet with leadership. They could be cut. They have about 60 parent community coordinators who work from home. They could be cut. They have social workers who work with immigrant students, they should be sent directly to schools and supervised by principals. The social workers work out of Rocking Horse Road Center. Rocking Horse Road Center is another building filled with Central Office staff. They have a Spring Mill office off Kemp Mill Road filled with Central Office. English Manor filled with central office. Some of the Central Office positions are needed, but others are not. Just look to see who gets their PHD while working for Central Office. Those are the people that should be cut.

My high farms, 70% Latinx school needs ours. Although she technically works from home, she is rarely home. She’s out visiting families and is at our school at least two days a week for meetings. My school would be even more dysfunctional without her.

Then you have a PCC who actually does her job. So many do not. They spend their days at home on the computer and not reaching out to families. Ours turns down invites to interact with families in need.

Yes! Same experience with ours! Never at the school and when you send a request to participate in a meeting, they always "have a meeting" at the same time. Who supervises these folks? Who is holding them accountable?

CO Director Everett Davis, former Redland MS principal.

Our school reported ours to Everett Davis and were told "It must be miscommunication" that our PCC tells us he is at other schools while he is supposed to be supporting our school. I think the leadership is where the issues are. They are the only ones to hold their people accountable and from the looks of things, they don't want to.

Thank you for naming a name - I wonder how much Davis makes per year to obfuscate and deflect?

Everett Davis M in 2022 was employed at Montgomery County Public Schools and had an annual salary of $201,701.

Wow. $201,701 to not supervise his employees.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have achievement specialist who used to be teachers but now, go around schools and meet with leadership. They could be cut. They have about 60 parent community coordinators who work from home. They could be cut. They have social workers who work with immigrant students, they should be sent directly to schools and supervised by principals. The social workers work out of Rocking Horse Road Center. Rocking Horse Road Center is another building filled with Central Office staff. They have a Spring Mill office off Kemp Mill Road filled with Central Office. English Manor filled with central office. Some of the Central Office positions are needed, but others are not. Just look to see who gets their PHD while working for Central Office. Those are the people that should be cut.

My high farms, 70% Latinx school needs ours. Although she technically works from home, she is rarely home. She’s out visiting families and is at our school at least two days a week for meetings. My school would be even more dysfunctional without her.

Then you have a PCC who actually does her job. So many do not. They spend their days at home on the computer and not reaching out to families. Ours turns down invites to interact with families in need.

Yes! Same experience with ours! Never at the school and when you send a request to participate in a meeting, they always "have a meeting" at the same time. Who supervises these folks? Who is holding them accountable?

CO Director Everett Davis, former Redland MS principal.

Our school reported ours to Everett Davis and were told "It must be miscommunication" that our PCC tells us he is at other schools while he is supposed to be supporting our school. I think the leadership is where the issues are. They are the only ones to hold their people accountable and from the looks of things, they don't want to.

Thank you for naming a name - I wonder how much Davis makes per year to obfuscate and deflect?

Everett Davis M in 2022 was employed at Montgomery County Public Schools and had an annual salary of $201,701.

So Mr. DAVIS is a former middle school principal. Is he a McKnight hire to the position getting paid $200 plus?