Safety in schools

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Anonymous wrote:Removing SROs from schools was an idiotic move and our kids are paying for the mistake with the massive increase in violence.

Removing SROs has created an unsafe learning environment for everyone.

I cannot believe you are seriously defending the removal of SROs.

Keeping them in schools makes schools less safe. It was the right call to remove them.

The facts prove the opposite. There are constant fights and violence in MCPS now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Removing SROs from schools was an idiotic move and our kids are paying for the mistake with the massive increase in violence.

Removing SROs has created an unsafe learning environment for everyone.

I cannot believe you are seriously defending the removal of SROs.

Keeping them in schools makes schools less safe. It was the right call to remove them.

The facts prove the opposite. There are constant fights and violence in MCPS now.

True:

https://www.marylandpublicschools.org/about/Documents/DCAA/SSP/20222023Student/2022-2023-MD-PS-Suspensions-By-School-and-Major-Offense-Category-Out-of-School-Suspensions-and-Expulsions.pdf

[Anonymous]

Every second we are here talking about this and schools are not making improvements. Friends say B-CC checks student IDs. Is that why bathrooms are closed they don't have enough people to check IDs and man hallways outside bathrooms? Are other HSs closing the bathrooms too? Our hasn't sent any message about them being closed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FOX? Ugh.

Yes, their station is right around the corner from B-CC. Would you just prefer to have news organizations ignore?

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Make your voices heard if you want SROs back

Also, if you don't want SROs back.

I'd rather keep people with guns out of schools. SROs make schools less safe.

Agree if people wanted school safety, they'd push for common-sense gun reforms that the GOP consistently blocks.

Two separate issues. Mcps has nothing to do with gun reform. But they do safety. The majority of fights are nit gun related but had, knives or other objects.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What about metal detectors? Any discussion of those in the past? I think PG county is trying this year.

What an idiotic waste of resources.

Why a "waste of resources."?

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Make your voices heard if you want SROs back

Also, if you don't want SROs back.

I'd rather keep people with guns out of schools. SROs make schools less safe.

Agree if people wanted school safety, they'd push for common-sense gun reforms that the GOP consistently blocks.

Two separate issues. Mcps has nothing to do with gun reform. But they do safety. The majority of fights are nit gun related but had, knives or other objects.

Like this recent knife-fight?

“Administrators at Benjamin Banneker Middle School say the altercation broke out between two female students around 1:30 p.m. Thursday. A box cutter was involved and both girls were taken to an area hospital with minor injuries.”

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Anonymous wrote:What action items resulted from the safety meeting held at BCC HS? What did the stakeholders - students, parents, the school, MCPS, police, elected officials and others - say about improving safety at the school and across MCPS secondary schools?

MCPS kicked out all SROs following the Defund the Police! / BLM orders.

Police are NOT stakeholders in MCPS anymore. You should correct your post, OP.

LOL It had more to do with the actual studies which show they make schools less safe but oh well

sure. Keep telling yourself that.

Meanwhile, the violence in MCPS spirals out of control.

People like her don't care about the harm that comes to students and staff due to the chaos in schools. Their only goal and prioritize is to vilify the police. It's insane.

I know! Why won't they arm teachers? The NRA says that would make schools safer!

No, thank you. I would resign the same day. I’m a small woman with physical disabilities. 3/4 of our students could easily take a gun from me.

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Make your voices heard if you want SROs back

Also, if you don't want SROs back.

I'd rather keep people with guns out of schools. SROs make schools less safe.

Agree if people wanted school safety, they'd push for common-sense gun reforms that the GOP consistently blocks.

what makes you think people aren't doing that?

We can do both: push for gun reforms and have SROs? MCPS doesn't have to be a one trick pony.

This person is a one trick pony. MCPS has no control over gun laws and even if they put in more gun laws, the guns are already on the street and people ca 3-d print them. So, we need both. However, the question is why can MCPS do about keeping our students and staff safe. Hire more security, bring back SRO's, security camera's, metal and other detectors to start with. Then, start suspending and expelling violent kids.

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Make your voices heard if you want SROs back

Also, if you don't want SROs back.

I'd rather keep people with guns out of schools. SROs make schools less safe.

Agree if people wanted school safety, they'd push for common-sense gun reforms that the GOP consistently blocks.

what makes you think people aren't doing that?

We can do both: push for gun reforms and have SROs? MCPS doesn't have to be a one trick pony.

This person is a one trick pony. MCPS has no control over gun laws and even if they put in more gun laws, the guns are already on the street and people ca 3-d print them. So, we need both. However, the question is why can MCPS do about keeping our students and staff safe. Hire more security, bring back SRO's, security camera's, metal and other detectors to start with. Then, start suspending and expelling violent kids.

Agreed. After removing the SROs, there are supposedly community engagement officers at MCPS but they have no authority to act unless the principal requests it. From my understanding. So my question is… anyone with a half a brain knows that teenagers are impulsive and can resort to violence. What if they thought RJ would be the only fix they were delusional. Same thing with the Juvenile Justice Reform Bill that was recently passed. My niece went to the school where the 12 year old arrived with a gun. This was in Anne Arundel. He received no consequences because the school’s hands were tied due to this reform. The whole state needs reform I swear. I agree that prison, JD, or harsh punishments are not (always) the appropriate punishment for minors, but c’mon! You can’t just do nothing. Who is helping these kids? It just feels so performative -lip service at best. And now it seems the entire community is suffering.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What action items resulted from the safety meeting held at BCC HS? What did the stakeholders - students, parents, the school, MCPS, police, elected officials and others - say about improving safety at the school and across MCPS secondary schools?

MCPS kicked out all SROs following the Defund the Police! / BLM orders.

Police are NOT stakeholders in MCPS anymore. You should correct your post, OP.

LOL It had more to do with the actual studies which show they make schools less safe but oh well

sure. Keep telling yourself that.

Meanwhile, the violence in MCPS spirals out of control.

People like her don't care about the harm that comes to students and staff due to the chaos in schools. Their only goal and prioritize is to vilify the police. It's insane.

I know! Why won't they arm teachers? The NRA says that would make schools safer!

No, thank you. I would resign the same day. I’m a small woman with physical disabilities. 3/4 of our students could easily take a gun from me.

Teachers should not be a replacement for security. Teachers are there to teach.

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Make your voices heard if you want SROs back

Also, if you don't want SROs back.

I'd rather keep people with guns out of schools. SROs make schools less safe.

Agree if people wanted school safety, they'd push for common-sense gun reforms that the GOP consistently blocks.

what makes you think people aren't doing that?

We can do both: push for gun reforms and have SROs? MCPS doesn't have to be a one trick pony.

This person is a one trick pony. MCPS has no control over gun laws and even if they put in more gun laws, the guns are already on the street and people ca 3-d print them. So, we need both. However, the question is why can MCPS do about keeping our students and staff safe. Hire more security, bring back SRO's, security camera's, metal and other detectors to start with. Then, start suspending and expelling violent kids.

Agreed. After removing the SROs, there are supposedly community engagement officers at MCPS but they have no authority to act unless the principal requests it. From my understanding. So my question is… anyone with a half a brain knows that teenagers are impulsive and can resort to violence. What if they thought RJ would be the only fix they were delusional. Same thing with the Juvenile Justice Reform Bill that was recently passed. My niece went to the school where the 12 year old arrived with a gun. This was in Anne Arundel. He received no consequences because the school’s hands were tied due to this reform. The whole state needs reform I swear. I agree that prison, JD, or harsh punishments are not (always) the appropriate punishment for minors, but c’mon! You can’t just do nothing. Who is helping these kids? It just feels so performative -lip service at best. And now it seems the entire community is suffering.

Any child who commits a violent crime belongs in a detention center or a special school. Either they have mental health issues not being addressed, or a very bad home life and they are mimicking what they see at home in either case they need more help than they are getting and if their parents cannot or will not (some parents try hard but others don't) they are better off institutionalized for their sake and others. Some of these kids need residential placements. Some kids need more support. Many kids need consequences both at school and at home.

I don't agree with RJ. It re-victimizes the victim and most are traumatized where they aren't going to go against staff/teachers and a bully and will just agree but that's not helpful to anyone. The victim needs help. The perpetrator needs help, consequences, and depending on what they did a different school placement (and a specialized school, not transferring them to do it again).

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Make your voices heard if you want SROs back

Also, if you don't want SROs back.

I'd rather keep people with guns out of schools. SROs make schools less safe.

Agree if people wanted school safety, they'd push for common-sense gun reforms that the GOP consistently blocks.

what makes you think people aren't doing that?

We can do both: push for gun reforms and have SROs? MCPS doesn't have to be a one trick pony.

This person is a one trick pony. MCPS has no control over gun laws and even if they put in more gun laws, the guns are already on the street and people ca 3-d print them. So, we need both. However, the question is why can MCPS do about keeping our students and staff safe. Hire more security, bring back SRO's, security camera's, metal and other detectors to start with. Then, start suspending and expelling violent kids.

Agreed. After removing the SROs, there are supposedly community engagement officers at MCPS but they have no authority to act unless the principal requests it. From my understanding. So my question is… anyone with a half a brain knows that teenagers are impulsive and can resort to violence. What if they thought RJ would be the only fix they were delusional. Same thing with the Juvenile Justice Reform Bill that was recently passed. My niece went to the school where the 12 year old arrived with a gun. This was in Anne Arundel. He received no consequences because the school’s hands were tied due to this reform. The whole state needs reform I swear. I agree that prison, JD, or harsh punishments are not (always) the appropriate punishment for minors, but c’mon! You can’t just do nothing. Who is helping these kids? It just feels so performative -lip service at best. And now it seems the entire community is suffering.

Any child who commits a violent crime belongs in a detention center or a special school. Either they have mental health issues not being addressed, or a very bad home life and they are mimicking what they see at home in either case they need more help than they are getting and if their parents cannot or will not (some parents try hard but others don't) they are better off institutionalized for their sake and others. Some of these kids need residential placements. Some kids need more support. Many kids need consequences both at school and at home.

I don't agree with RJ. It re-victimizes the victim and most are traumatized where they aren't going to go against staff/teachers and a bully and will just agree but that's not helpful to anyone. The victim needs help. The perpetrator needs help, consequences, and depending on what they did a different school placement (and a specialized school, not transferring them to do it again).

I don’t you understood what I’m saying. My apologies if unclear. I do agree that black and brown minors are disproportionately incarcerated (hence the reason for the reform). I agree with the premise behind what they are trying to do. But they are going about it all wrong. This has nothing to do with serious and violent crimes. Those still go through the system. But nothing else does. Not even assault.

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Make your voices heard if you want SROs back

Also, if you don't want SROs back.

I'd rather keep people with guns out of schools. SROs make schools less safe.

Agree if people wanted school safety, they'd push for common-sense gun reforms that the GOP consistently blocks.

what makes you think people aren't doing that?

We can do both: push for gun reforms and have SROs? MCPS doesn't have to be a one trick pony.

This person is a one trick pony. MCPS has no control over gun laws and even if they put in more gun laws, the guns are already on the street and people ca 3-d print them. So, we need both. However, the question is why can MCPS do about keeping our students and staff safe. Hire more security, bring back SRO's, security camera's, metal and other detectors to start with. Then, start suspending and expelling violent kids.

Agreed. After removing the SROs, there are supposedly community engagement officers at MCPS but they have no authority to act unless the principal requests it. From my understanding. So my question is… anyone with a half a brain knows that teenagers are impulsive and can resort to violence. What if they thought RJ would be the only fix they were delusional. Same thing with the Juvenile Justice Reform Bill that was recently passed. My niece went to the school where the 12 year old arrived with a gun. This was in Anne Arundel. He received no consequences because the school’s hands were tied due to this reform. The whole state needs reform I swear. I agree that prison, JD, or harsh punishments are not (always) the appropriate punishment for minors, but c’mon! You can’t just do nothing. Who is helping these kids? It just feels so performative -lip service at best. And now it seems the entire community is suffering.

Any child who commits a violent crime belongs in a detention center or a special school. Either they have mental health issues not being addressed, or a very bad home life and they are mimicking what they see at home in either case they need more help than they are getting and if their parents cannot or will not (some parents try hard but others don't) they are better off institutionalized for their sake and others. Some of these kids need residential placements. Some kids need more support. Many kids need consequences both at school and at home.

I don't agree with RJ. It re-victimizes the victim and most are traumatized where they aren't going to go against staff/teachers and a bully and will just agree but that's not helpful to anyone. The victim needs help. The perpetrator needs help, consequences, and depending on what they did a different school placement (and a specialized school, not transferring them to do it again).

I don’t you understood what I’m saying. My apologies if unclear. I do agree that black and brown minors are disproportionately incarcerated (hence the reason for the reform). I agree with the premise behind what they are trying to do. But they are going about it all wrong. This has nothing to do with serious and violent crimes. Those still go through the system. But nothing else does. Not even assault.

I don't care what race a child or person is. If they do something that harms someone else, they deserve to get consequences and enough is enough.

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Anonymous wrote:https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe8PMbZti0W0iwCdIKem0SSA4RmB8vr0aSMz_tAv2IHL6rP1w/viewform

Make your voices heard if you want SROs back

Also, if you don't want SROs back.

I'd rather keep people with guns out of schools. SROs make schools less safe.

Agree if people wanted school safety, they'd push for common-sense gun reforms that the GOP consistently blocks.

what makes you think people aren't doing that?

We can do both: push for gun reforms and have SROs? MCPS doesn't have to be a one trick pony.

This person is a one trick pony. MCPS has no control over gun laws and even if they put in more gun laws, the guns are already on the street and people ca 3-d print them. So, we need both. However, the question is why can MCPS do about keeping our students and staff safe. Hire more security, bring back SRO's, security camera's, metal and other detectors to start with. Then, start suspending and expelling violent kids.

Agreed. After removing the SROs, there are supposedly community engagement officers at MCPS but they have no authority to act unless the principal requests it. From my understanding. So my question is… anyone with a half a brain knows that teenagers are impulsive and can resort to violence. What if they thought RJ would be the only fix they were delusional. Same thing with the Juvenile Justice Reform Bill that was recently passed. My niece went to the school where the 12 year old arrived with a gun. This was in Anne Arundel. He received no consequences because the school’s hands were tied due to this reform. The whole state needs reform I swear. I agree that prison, JD, or harsh punishments are not (always) the appropriate punishment for minors, but c’mon! You can’t just do nothing. Who is helping these kids? It just feels so performative -lip service at best. And now it seems the entire community is suffering.

Any child who commits a violent crime belongs in a detention center or a special school. Either they have mental health issues not being addressed, or a very bad home life and they are mimicking what they see at home in either case they need more help than they are getting and if their parents cannot or will not (some parents try hard but others don't) they are better off institutionalized for their sake and others. Some of these kids need residential placements. Some kids need more support. Many kids need consequences both at school and at home.

I don't agree with RJ. It re-victimizes the victim and most are traumatized where they aren't going to go against staff/teachers and a bully and will just agree but that's not helpful to anyone. The victim needs help. The perpetrator needs help, consequences, and depending on what they did a different school placement (and a specialized school, not transferring them to do it again).

I don’t you understood what I’m saying. My apologies if unclear. I do agree that black and brown minors are disproportionately incarcerated (hence the reason for the reform). I agree with the premise behind what they are trying to do. But they are going about it all wrong. This has nothing to do with serious and violent crimes. Those still go through the system. But nothing else does. Not even assault.

I don't care what race a child or person is. If they do something that harms someone else, they deserve to get consequences and enough is enough.

I'm sorry you didn't understand.