DC homicide count at its highest in 20 years

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Instead of posting the exact same meaningless pablum in every thread about crime, consider that your time would be better spent ranting on a street corner. At least then you'd get some fresh air.



What? Do you think hard-left politicians like Janeese Lewis George and Charles Allen are in the business of cracking down on crime? They most certainly are not.


I don't think any reasonable person would look at DC and conclude that everything is peachy keen. However, repeatedly bleating into the void "HURR DURR YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR" ignores the fact that much of the problems with DC's criminal justice system stem from entities unaccountable to the voting public. Unless Janeese Lewis George has taken up a position at the USAO and Charles Allen is moonlighting for CSOSA, tilting against those windmills accomplishes precisely nothing.

The "get what you vote for" PP should seek her catharsis elsewhere.


Not the PP, but have they put any pressure on those entities? At all? I expect my public servants to advocate, hold hearings, make demands. Have they? ^


I am fascinated to hear what demands you think the city council can make of federally-appointed prosecutors and judges. I wait with bated breath.


Bowser, who, last I checked, was a liberal Democrat, had a whole list of things she wanted to do about crime and the lefty nutjobs on the city council *vehemently* opposed them.


Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children....

That tension between the mayor and her council around how to address crime is familiar. Earlier this year, they sparred over a revision to the District’s criminal code — with the mayor vetoing the measure that would have decreased sentences for some crimes, only to have the council override her. Congress ultimately weighed in and sided with the mayor, voting to block local legislation for the first time in more than 30 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/
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This is what we vote, this is what we get.


Instead of posting the exact same meaningless pablum in every thread about crime, consider that your time would be better spent ranting on a street corner. At least then you'd get some fresh air.



What? Do you think hard-left politicians like Janeese Lewis George and Charles Allen are in the business of cracking down on crime? They most certainly are not.


I don't think any reasonable person would look at DC and conclude that everything is peachy keen. However, repeatedly bleating into the void "HURR DURR YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR" ignores the fact that much of the problems with DC's criminal justice system stem from entities unaccountable to the voting public. Unless Janeese Lewis George has taken up a position at the USAO and Charles Allen is moonlighting for CSOSA, tilting against those windmills accomplishes precisely nothing.

The "get what you vote for" PP should seek her catharsis elsewhere.


Not the PP, but have they put any pressure on those entities? At all? I expect my public servants to advocate, hold hearings, make demands. Have they? ^


I am fascinated to hear what demands you think the city council can make of federally-appointed prosecutors and judges. I wait with bated breath.


Bowser, who, last I checked, was a liberal Democrat, had a whole list of things she wanted to do about crime and the lefty nutjobs on the city council *vehemently* opposed them.


Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children....

That tension between the mayor and her council around how to address crime is familiar. Earlier this year, they sparred over a revision to the District’s criminal code — with the mayor vetoing the measure that would have decreased sentences for some crimes, only to have the council override her. Congress ultimately weighed in and sided with the mayor, voting to block local legislation for the first time in more than 30 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/


For about the millionth time, none of the above matters much when the USAO declines to prosecute 2/3rds of cases brought before them or when judges refuse to detain criminals pretrial and pass out light sentences for heinous crimes. How do you solve that problem? Certainly not with legislation, but by all means, keep fighting the imaginary lefty boogeymen.
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This is what we vote, this is what we get.


Instead of posting the exact same meaningless pablum in every thread about crime, consider that your time would be better spent ranting on a street corner. At least then you'd get some fresh air.



What? Do you think hard-left politicians like Janeese Lewis George and Charles Allen are in the business of cracking down on crime? They most certainly are not.


I don't think any reasonable person would look at DC and conclude that everything is peachy keen. However, repeatedly bleating into the void "HURR DURR YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR" ignores the fact that much of the problems with DC's criminal justice system stem from entities unaccountable to the voting public. Unless Janeese Lewis George has taken up a position at the USAO and Charles Allen is moonlighting for CSOSA, tilting against those windmills accomplishes precisely nothing.

The "get what you vote for" PP should seek her catharsis elsewhere.


Not the PP, but have they put any pressure on those entities? At all? I expect my public servants to advocate, hold hearings, make demands. Have they? ^


I am fascinated to hear what demands you think the city council can make of federally-appointed prosecutors and judges. I wait with bated breath.


I am fascinated by city council officials, who've never met a crime bill they didnt oppose, who've spent years thumbing their nose at voters' demands to do *something* about soaring violance, now pretend (because, of course, the primaries are just months away) that dealing with crime is actually someone else's job and they are powerless to address it.
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It would be nice to see more tit for tat like this a few years ago. Even if no formal legal pressure can be applied, the publicity and awareness does form its own pressure.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/pr/statement-us-attorneys-office-district-columbia-response-mayor-muriel-bowsers-press
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This is what we vote, this is what we get.


Instead of posting the exact same meaningless pablum in every thread about crime, consider that your time would be better spent ranting on a street corner. At least then you'd get some fresh air.



What? Do you think hard-left politicians like Janeese Lewis George and Charles Allen are in the business of cracking down on crime? They most certainly are not.


I don't think any reasonable person would look at DC and conclude that everything is peachy keen. However, repeatedly bleating into the void "HURR DURR YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR" ignores the fact that much of the problems with DC's criminal justice system stem from entities unaccountable to the voting public. Unless Janeese Lewis George has taken up a position at the USAO and Charles Allen is moonlighting for CSOSA, tilting against those windmills accomplishes precisely nothing.

The "get what you vote for" PP should seek her catharsis elsewhere.


Not the PP, but have they put any pressure on those entities? At all? I expect my public servants to advocate, hold hearings, make demands. Have they? ^


I am fascinated to hear what demands you think the city council can make of federally-appointed prosecutors and judges. I wait with bated breath.


Bowser, who, last I checked, was a liberal Democrat, had a whole list of things she wanted to do about crime and the lefty nutjobs on the city council *vehemently* opposed them.


Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children....

That tension between the mayor and her council around how to address crime is familiar. Earlier this year, they sparred over a revision to the District’s criminal code — with the mayor vetoing the measure that would have decreased sentences for some crimes, only to have the council override her. Congress ultimately weighed in and sided with the mayor, voting to block local legislation for the first time in more than 30 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/


For about the millionth time, none of the above matters much when the USAO declines to prosecute 2/3rds of cases brought before them or when judges refuse to detain criminals pretrial and pass out light sentences for heinous crimes. How do you solve that problem? Certainly not with legislation, but by all means, keep fighting the imaginary lefty boogeymen.


It’s obvious the DC government is full of That’s Not My Jobs and I’m On My Breaks, so not a surprise the Council is as well. Janice plowing through chips in the break room “that is not my job.”
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This is what we vote, this is what we get.


Instead of posting the exact same meaningless pablum in every thread about crime, consider that your time would be better spent ranting on a street corner. At least then you'd get some fresh air.



What? Do you think hard-left politicians like Janeese Lewis George and Charles Allen are in the business of cracking down on crime? They most certainly are not.


I don't think any reasonable person would look at DC and conclude that everything is peachy keen. However, repeatedly bleating into the void "HURR DURR YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR" ignores the fact that much of the problems with DC's criminal justice system stem from entities unaccountable to the voting public. Unless Janeese Lewis George has taken up a position at the USAO and Charles Allen is moonlighting for CSOSA, tilting against those windmills accomplishes precisely nothing.

The "get what you vote for" PP should seek her catharsis elsewhere.


Not the PP, but have they put any pressure on those entities? At all? I expect my public servants to advocate, hold hearings, make demands. Have they? ^


I am fascinated to hear what demands you think the city council can make of federally-appointed prosecutors and judges. I wait with bated breath.


I am fascinated by city council officials, who've never met a crime bill they didnt oppose, who've spent years thumbing their nose at voters' demands to do *something* about soaring violance, now pretend (because, of course, the primaries are just months away) that dealing with crime is actually someone else's job and they are powerless to address it.

Every year it’s a new excuse.

2021: “it’s a national problem”

2022: “stop being sensationalist, it’s better than the 90s”

2023: “what do you expect us to do? It’s the fault of [pick one or more: Maryland criminals coming into DC, the mayor for not implementing prevention programs, Congressional interference in DC affairs, the USAO for not prosecuting more crimes, the judges for being too lenient, etc]”
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This is what we vote, this is what we get.


Instead of posting the exact same meaningless pablum in every thread about crime, consider that your time would be better spent ranting on a street corner. At least then you'd get some fresh air.



What? Do you think hard-left politicians like Janeese Lewis George and Charles Allen are in the business of cracking down on crime? They most certainly are not.


I don't think any reasonable person would look at DC and conclude that everything is peachy keen. However, repeatedly bleating into the void "HURR DURR YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR" ignores the fact that much of the problems with DC's criminal justice system stem from entities unaccountable to the voting public. Unless Janeese Lewis George has taken up a position at the USAO and Charles Allen is moonlighting for CSOSA, tilting against those windmills accomplishes precisely nothing.

The "get what you vote for" PP should seek her catharsis elsewhere.


Not the PP, but have they put any pressure on those entities? At all? I expect my public servants to advocate, hold hearings, make demands. Have they? ^


I am fascinated to hear what demands you think the city council can make of federally-appointed prosecutors and judges. I wait with bated breath.


Bowser, who, last I checked, was a liberal Democrat, had a whole list of things she wanted to do about crime and the lefty nutjobs on the city council *vehemently* opposed them.


Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children....

That tension between the mayor and her council around how to address crime is familiar. Earlier this year, they sparred over a revision to the District’s criminal code — with the mayor vetoing the measure that would have decreased sentences for some crimes, only to have the council override her. Congress ultimately weighed in and sided with the mayor, voting to block local legislation for the first time in more than 30 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/


For about the millionth time, none of the above matters much when the USAO declines to prosecute 2/3rds of cases brought before them or when judges refuse to detain criminals pretrial and pass out light sentences for heinous crimes. How do you solve that problem? Certainly not with legislation, but by all means, keep fighting the imaginary lefty boogeymen.


It’s obvious the DC government is full of That’s Not My Jobs and I’m On My Breaks, so not a surprise the Council is as well. Janice plowing through chips in the break room “that is not my job.”


So you don't have any ideas or solutions and just want to denigrate others to make yourself feel better. I'm glad we finally got to the bottom of that, but next time just tell us all up front so we don't have to waste any time engaging with you in good faith.
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This is what we vote, this is what we get.


Instead of posting the exact same meaningless pablum in every thread about crime, consider that your time would be better spent ranting on a street corner. At least then you'd get some fresh air.



What? Do you think hard-left politicians like Janeese Lewis George and Charles Allen are in the business of cracking down on crime? They most certainly are not.


I don't think any reasonable person would look at DC and conclude that everything is peachy keen. However, repeatedly bleating into the void "HURR DURR YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR" ignores the fact that much of the problems with DC's criminal justice system stem from entities unaccountable to the voting public. Unless Janeese Lewis George has taken up a position at the USAO and Charles Allen is moonlighting for CSOSA, tilting against those windmills accomplishes precisely nothing.

The "get what you vote for" PP should seek her catharsis elsewhere.


Not the PP, but have they put any pressure on those entities? At all? I expect my public servants to advocate, hold hearings, make demands. Have they? ^


I am fascinated to hear what demands you think the city council can make of federally-appointed prosecutors and judges. I wait with bated breath.


Bowser, who, last I checked, was a liberal Democrat, had a whole list of things she wanted to do about crime and the lefty nutjobs on the city council *vehemently* opposed them.


Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children....

That tension between the mayor and her council around how to address crime is familiar. Earlier this year, they sparred over a revision to the District’s criminal code — with the mayor vetoing the measure that would have decreased sentences for some crimes, only to have the council override her. Congress ultimately weighed in and sided with the mayor, voting to block local legislation for the first time in more than 30 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/


For about the millionth time, none of the above matters much when the USAO declines to prosecute 2/3rds of cases brought before them or when judges refuse to detain criminals pretrial and pass out light sentences for heinous crimes. How do you solve that problem? Certainly not with legislation, but by all means, keep fighting the imaginary lefty boogeymen.


It’s obvious the DC government is full of That’s Not My Jobs and I’m On My Breaks, so not a surprise the Council is as well. Janice plowing through chips in the break room “that is not my job.”


So you don't have any ideas or solutions and just want to denigrate others to make yourself feel better. I'm glad we finally got to the bottom of that, but next time just tell us all up front so we don't have to waste any time engaging with you in good faith.

Not PP but the implication is pretty clear that the solution is that DC needs to clean out this cadre of do nothing, dead wood from inside DC government, including the Council.
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This is what we vote, this is what we get.


Instead of posting the exact same meaningless pablum in every thread about crime, consider that your time would be better spent ranting on a street corner. At least then you'd get some fresh air.



What? Do you think hard-left politicians like Janeese Lewis George and Charles Allen are in the business of cracking down on crime? They most certainly are not.


I don't think any reasonable person would look at DC and conclude that everything is peachy keen. However, repeatedly bleating into the void "HURR DURR YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR" ignores the fact that much of the problems with DC's criminal justice system stem from entities unaccountable to the voting public. Unless Janeese Lewis George has taken up a position at the USAO and Charles Allen is moonlighting for CSOSA, tilting against those windmills accomplishes precisely nothing.

The "get what you vote for" PP should seek her catharsis elsewhere.


Not the PP, but have they put any pressure on those entities? At all? I expect my public servants to advocate, hold hearings, make demands. Have they? ^


I am fascinated to hear what demands you think the city council can make of federally-appointed prosecutors and judges. I wait with bated breath.


Bowser, who, last I checked, was a liberal Democrat, had a whole list of things she wanted to do about crime and the lefty nutjobs on the city council *vehemently* opposed them.


Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children....

That tension between the mayor and her council around how to address crime is familiar. Earlier this year, they sparred over a revision to the District’s criminal code — with the mayor vetoing the measure that would have decreased sentences for some crimes, only to have the council override her. Congress ultimately weighed in and sided with the mayor, voting to block local legislation for the first time in more than 30 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/


https://dcist.com/story/23/07/11/dc-council-approves-emergency-crime-bill/

Now please STFU.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
This is what we vote, this is what we get.


Instead of posting the exact same meaningless pablum in every thread about crime, consider that your time would be better spent ranting on a street corner. At least then you'd get some fresh air.



What? Do you think hard-left politicians like Janeese Lewis George and Charles Allen are in the business of cracking down on crime? They most certainly are not.


I don't think any reasonable person would look at DC and conclude that everything is peachy keen. However, repeatedly bleating into the void "HURR DURR YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR" ignores the fact that much of the problems with DC's criminal justice system stem from entities unaccountable to the voting public. Unless Janeese Lewis George has taken up a position at the USAO and Charles Allen is moonlighting for CSOSA, tilting against those windmills accomplishes precisely nothing.

The "get what you vote for" PP should seek her catharsis elsewhere.


Not the PP, but have they put any pressure on those entities? At all? I expect my public servants to advocate, hold hearings, make demands. Have they? ^


I am fascinated to hear what demands you think the city council can make of federally-appointed prosecutors and judges. I wait with bated breath.


Bowser, who, last I checked, was a liberal Democrat, had a whole list of things she wanted to do about crime and the lefty nutjobs on the city council *vehemently* opposed them.


Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children....

That tension between the mayor and her council around how to address crime is familiar. Earlier this year, they sparred over a revision to the District’s criminal code — with the mayor vetoing the measure that would have decreased sentences for some crimes, only to have the council override her. Congress ultimately weighed in and sided with the mayor, voting to block local legislation for the first time in more than 30 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/


For about the millionth time, none of the above matters much when the USAO declines to prosecute 2/3rds of cases brought before them or when judges refuse to detain criminals pretrial and pass out light sentences for heinous crimes. How do you solve that problem? Certainly not with legislation, but by all means, keep fighting the imaginary lefty boogeymen.


Exactly to which party do most of those individuals likely belong? I doubt that most of those judges are conservative Republicans.
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Anonymous wrote:
This is what we vote, this is what we get.


Instead of posting the exact same meaningless pablum in every thread about crime, consider that your time would be better spent ranting on a street corner. At least then you'd get some fresh air.



What? Do you think hard-left politicians like Janeese Lewis George and Charles Allen are in the business of cracking down on crime? They most certainly are not.


I don't think any reasonable person would look at DC and conclude that everything is peachy keen. However, repeatedly bleating into the void "HURR DURR YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR" ignores the fact that much of the problems with DC's criminal justice system stem from entities unaccountable to the voting public. Unless Janeese Lewis George has taken up a position at the USAO and Charles Allen is moonlighting for CSOSA, tilting against those windmills accomplishes precisely nothing.

The "get what you vote for" PP should seek her catharsis elsewhere.


Not the PP, but have they put any pressure on those entities? At all? I expect my public servants to advocate, hold hearings, make demands. Have they? ^


I am fascinated to hear what demands you think the city council can make of federally-appointed prosecutors and judges. I wait with bated breath.


Bowser, who, last I checked, was a liberal Democrat, had a whole list of things she wanted to do about crime and the lefty nutjobs on the city council *vehemently* opposed them.


Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children....

That tension between the mayor and her council around how to address crime is familiar. Earlier this year, they sparred over a revision to the District’s criminal code — with the mayor vetoing the measure that would have decreased sentences for some crimes, only to have the council override her. Congress ultimately weighed in and sided with the mayor, voting to block local legislation for the first time in more than 30 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/


For about the millionth time, none of the above matters much when the USAO declines to prosecute 2/3rds of cases brought before them or when judges refuse to detain criminals pretrial and pass out light sentences for heinous crimes. How do you solve that problem? Certainly not with legislation, but by all means, keep fighting the imaginary lefty boogeymen.


Exactly to which party do most of those individuals likely belong? I doubt that most of those judges are conservative Republicans.


You can doubt that all you want, but they're appointed by presidents, and since the turn of the millennium we've had exactly as many years with Republicans in the White House as we've had years with Democrats in the White House.

I'm terribly sorry that the facts don't fit your narrative, though.
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This is what we vote, this is what we get.


Instead of posting the exact same meaningless pablum in every thread about crime, consider that your time would be better spent ranting on a street corner. At least then you'd get some fresh air.



What? Do you think hard-left politicians like Janeese Lewis George and Charles Allen are in the business of cracking down on crime? They most certainly are not.


I don't think any reasonable person would look at DC and conclude that everything is peachy keen. However, repeatedly bleating into the void "HURR DURR YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR" ignores the fact that much of the problems with DC's criminal justice system stem from entities unaccountable to the voting public. Unless Janeese Lewis George has taken up a position at the USAO and Charles Allen is moonlighting for CSOSA, tilting against those windmills accomplishes precisely nothing.

The "get what you vote for" PP should seek her catharsis elsewhere.


Not the PP, but have they put any pressure on those entities? At all? I expect my public servants to advocate, hold hearings, make demands. Have they? ^


I am fascinated to hear what demands you think the city council can make of federally-appointed prosecutors and judges. I wait with bated breath.


Bowser, who, last I checked, was a liberal Democrat, had a whole list of things she wanted to do about crime and the lefty nutjobs on the city council *vehemently* opposed them.


Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children....

That tension between the mayor and her council around how to address crime is familiar. Earlier this year, they sparred over a revision to the District’s criminal code — with the mayor vetoing the measure that would have decreased sentences for some crimes, only to have the council override her. Congress ultimately weighed in and sided with the mayor, voting to block local legislation for the first time in more than 30 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/


For about the millionth time, none of the above matters much when the USAO declines to prosecute 2/3rds of cases brought before them or when judges refuse to detain criminals pretrial and pass out light sentences for heinous crimes. How do you solve that problem? Certainly not with legislation, but by all means, keep fighting the imaginary lefty boogeymen.


Exactly to which party do most of those individuals likely belong? I doubt that most of those judges are conservative Republicans.


You can doubt that all you want, but they're appointed by presidents, and since the turn of the millennium we've had exactly as many years with Republicans in the White House as we've had years with Democrats in the White House.

I'm terribly sorry that the facts don't fit your narrative, though.


I don't have a narrative. I just had no idea that Republican appointees were so liberal minded. Good to know!
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This is what we vote, this is what we get.


Instead of posting the exact same meaningless pablum in every thread about crime, consider that your time would be better spent ranting on a street corner. At least then you'd get some fresh air.



What? Do you think hard-left politicians like Janeese Lewis George and Charles Allen are in the business of cracking down on crime? They most certainly are not.


I don't think any reasonable person would look at DC and conclude that everything is peachy keen. However, repeatedly bleating into the void "HURR DURR YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR" ignores the fact that much of the problems with DC's criminal justice system stem from entities unaccountable to the voting public. Unless Janeese Lewis George has taken up a position at the USAO and Charles Allen is moonlighting for CSOSA, tilting against those windmills accomplishes precisely nothing.

The "get what you vote for" PP should seek her catharsis elsewhere.


Not the PP, but have they put any pressure on those entities? At all? I expect my public servants to advocate, hold hearings, make demands. Have they? ^


I am fascinated to hear what demands you think the city council can make of federally-appointed prosecutors and judges. I wait with bated breath.


I am fascinated by city council officials, who've never met a crime bill they didnt oppose, who've spent years thumbing their nose at voters' demands to do *something* about soaring violance, now pretend (because, of course, the primaries are just months away) that dealing with crime is actually someone else's job and they are powerless to address it.

Every year it’s a new excuse.

2021: “it’s a national problem”

2022: “stop being sensationalist, it’s better than the 90s”

2023: “what do you expect us to do? It’s the fault of [pick one or more: Maryland criminals coming into DC, the mayor for not implementing prevention programs, Congressional interference in DC affairs, the USAO for not prosecuting more crimes, the judges for being too lenient, etc]”


2024-30: sh$t, those racist whites are leaving the city again. Bye bye high property and income taxes that fund the city.
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This is what we vote, this is what we get.


Instead of posting the exact same meaningless pablum in every thread about crime, consider that your time would be better spent ranting on a street corner. At least then you'd get some fresh air.



What? Do you think hard-left politicians like Janeese Lewis George and Charles Allen are in the business of cracking down on crime? They most certainly are not.


I don't think any reasonable person would look at DC and conclude that everything is peachy keen. However, repeatedly bleating into the void "HURR DURR YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR" ignores the fact that much of the problems with DC's criminal justice system stem from entities unaccountable to the voting public. Unless Janeese Lewis George has taken up a position at the USAO and Charles Allen is moonlighting for CSOSA, tilting against those windmills accomplishes precisely nothing.

The "get what you vote for" PP should seek her catharsis elsewhere.


Not the PP, but have they put any pressure on those entities? At all? I expect my public servants to advocate, hold hearings, make demands. Have they? ^


I am fascinated to hear what demands you think the city council can make of federally-appointed prosecutors and judges. I wait with bated breath.


Bowser, who, last I checked, was a liberal Democrat, had a whole list of things she wanted to do about crime and the lefty nutjobs on the city council *vehemently* opposed them.


Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children....

That tension between the mayor and her council around how to address crime is familiar. Earlier this year, they sparred over a revision to the District’s criminal code — with the mayor vetoing the measure that would have decreased sentences for some crimes, only to have the council override her. Congress ultimately weighed in and sided with the mayor, voting to block local legislation for the first time in more than 30 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/


For about the millionth time, none of the above matters much when the USAO declines to prosecute 2/3rds of cases brought before them or when judges refuse to detain criminals pretrial and pass out light sentences for heinous crimes. How do you solve that problem? Certainly not with legislation, but by all means, keep fighting the imaginary lefty boogeymen.


It’s obvious the DC government is full of That’s Not My Jobs and I’m On My Breaks, so not a surprise the Council is as well. Janice plowing through chips in the break room “that is not my job.”


So you don't have any ideas or solutions and just want to denigrate others to make yourself feel better. I'm glad we finally got to the bottom of that, but next time just tell us all up front so we don't have to waste any time engaging with you in good faith.


If the Council bears zero responsibility, then we do not need them and need to rally for a federal takeover.


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This is what we vote, this is what we get.


Instead of posting the exact same meaningless pablum in every thread about crime, consider that your time would be better spent ranting on a street corner. At least then you'd get some fresh air.



What? Do you think hard-left politicians like Janeese Lewis George and Charles Allen are in the business of cracking down on crime? They most certainly are not.


I don't think any reasonable person would look at DC and conclude that everything is peachy keen. However, repeatedly bleating into the void "HURR DURR YOU GET WHAT YOU VOTE FOR" ignores the fact that much of the problems with DC's criminal justice system stem from entities unaccountable to the voting public. Unless Janeese Lewis George has taken up a position at the USAO and Charles Allen is moonlighting for CSOSA, tilting against those windmills accomplishes precisely nothing.

The "get what you vote for" PP should seek her catharsis elsewhere.


Not the PP, but have they put any pressure on those entities? At all? I expect my public servants to advocate, hold hearings, make demands. Have they? ^


I am fascinated to hear what demands you think the city council can make of federally-appointed prosecutors and judges. I wait with bated breath.


Bowser, who, last I checked, was a liberal Democrat, had a whole list of things she wanted to do about crime and the lefty nutjobs on the city council *vehemently* opposed them.


Bowser proposal to toughen D.C.’s approach to crime draws resistance
Council members and others appeared to oppose the measure that would make it easier to detain youths before trial

The D.C. mayor’s legislative proposal that would impose new penalties for gun crimes and make it easier to detain some youths awaiting trial encountered fierce resistance at a council hearing Tuesday, even as the city’s top federal prosecutor and a host of residents said the bill would help reduce violent crime in the nation’s capital.

D.C. Council member Janeese Lewis George (D-Ward 4) said the proposed legislation would be “incredibly traumatizing” to children....

That tension between the mayor and her council around how to address crime is familiar. Earlier this year, they sparred over a revision to the District’s criminal code — with the mayor vetoing the measure that would have decreased sentences for some crimes, only to have the council override her. Congress ultimately weighed in and sided with the mayor, voting to block local legislation for the first time in more than 30 years.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/06/27/bowser-crime-bill-dc-council-opposition/


For about the millionth time, none of the above matters much when the USAO declines to prosecute 2/3rds of cases brought before them or when judges refuse to detain criminals pretrial and pass out light sentences for heinous crimes. How do you solve that problem? Certainly not with legislation, but by all means, keep fighting the imaginary lefty boogeymen.


It’s obvious the DC government is full of That’s Not My Jobs and I’m On My Breaks, so not a surprise the Council is as well. Janice plowing through chips in the break room “that is not my job.”


So you don't have any ideas or solutions and just want to denigrate others to make yourself feel better. I'm glad we finally got to the bottom of that, but next time just tell us all up front so we don't have to waste any time engaging with you in good faith.


If the Council bears zero responsibility, then we do not need them and need to rally for a federal takeover.




Would probably be better.

The city has proven not to be ready for self-management for decades.
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