17yo arrested by MPD for killing 14yo. Mother watched

[Anonymous]

Everyone makes all kinds of excuses for this kind or any kind of bad or inappropriate behavior and this is why kids act this way. The adults in their lives think its ok and cannot be bothered parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone makes all kinds of excuses for this kind or any kind of bad or inappropriate behavior and this is why kids act this way. The adults in their lives think it's ok and cannot be bothered parenting.

There's racism built in. Oh those people can't behave any better than that.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone makes all kinds of excuses for this kind or any kind of bad or inappropriate behavior and this is why kids act this way. The adults in their lives think it's ok and cannot be bothered parenting.

There's racism built in. Oh those people can't behave any better than that.

Anyone else disturbed that the posters touting the generational trauma excuse are ironically saying the EXACT SAME THING as the racists—that the criminals can’t help themselves??!!

WUT THE FUHK

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Anonymous wrote:This is one of those stories which simply has no empathetic response except that this young man, the murderer, never had a chance. And that is sad.

Murderer and victim. And something must also be wrong with the mom. I know you think that this is just a case of bad people, but it's all tied up in the dehumanizing of certain segments of our population over generations.

You really think this is the case???
They are bad people and need to be punished. Don’t you dare try and make them the victims.

NP. I think it is most likely the case. And that doesn't mean they aren't "bad people and need to be punished," pp is saying it isn't "JUST a case of bad people." People who victimize can also be victims.

I am the pp who noted the role of dehumanization. The above is my point. Yes, they should absolutely be punished. But you all are fooling yourself if you think they are a$$holes just because. Read the body keeps score. And even nickeled and dimed or maid if you want to see how people sometimes have a limited range of options to choose from and make choices that seem utterly outrageous to us.

Yes, some people have generational trauma and can overcome it, but many cannot. And no one is blaming the white folks on this thread per se, but you must stop being so defensive about things that other folks have done and continue to do that hurts certain segments of the population (whether it be poc, or poor, or lgbt, or disabled, whatever).

I can buy the generational trauma. I can buy that we must help kids break free from the generational trauma. What I don't want to happen, is the victims of generational trauma get a pass/reduced jail time for their crimes because of the generational trauma.

Yes - try to help them but once they commit the crime, they need to be punished. Don't want to be punished? Then take the help that is being given and don't commit crimes.

JFC thank you. I come from a part of the country where there is rampant "generational trauma" in white rural and also indigenous communities. Multi-generational poverty, utter and complete lack of jobs, some of the worst schools in the United States.

You know what is NOT happening in these towns and counties? Daily drive-by shootings. Daily carjackings by tweens FFS. Teens shooting bus drivers (there's not Metro obv.) Teens shooting at each other across playgrounds and hitting bystanders instead.

Oh I know, rural poor American is rife with its own set of dysfunction and deaths of despair. But non-stop lethal violence directed at everyone who may have disrespected you is emphatically NOT a required outcome of a shitty upbringing. Stop excusing these violent criminals to assuage your white UMC guilt.

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Anonymous wrote:This is one of those stories which simply has no empathetic response except that this young man, the murderer, never had a chance. And that is sad.

Murderer and victim. And something must also be wrong with the mom. I know you think that this is just a case of bad people, but it's all tied up in the dehumanizing of certain segments of our population over generations.

All over the world, for centuries, there have been people victimized, dehumanized, mistreated, and living in poverty. Most do not raise violent family members and murderers.

Most of them don't have guns.

But you probably didn't want to hear that.

Also have you not noticed the many civil wars about the world?

PP here. I don't have a gun. Neither does my husband. We are in favor of much stricter gun laws, and we don't belong to the NRA. But you probably didn't want to hear that. I'll stand by my original statement.

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Anonymous wrote:This is one of those stories which simply has no empathetic response except that this young man, the murderer, never had a chance. And that is sad.

Murderer and victim. And something must also be wrong with the mom. I know you think that this is just a case of bad people, but it's all tied up in the dehumanizing of certain segments of our population over generations.

You really think this is the case???
They are bad people and need to be punished. Don’t you dare try and make them the victims.

NP. I think it is most likely the case. And that doesn't mean they aren't "bad people and need to be punished," pp is saying it isn't "JUST a case of bad people." People who victimize can also be victims.

I am the pp who noted the role of dehumanization. The above is my point. Yes, they should absolutely be punished. But you all are fooling yourself if you think they are a$$holes just because. Read the body keeps score. And even nickeled and dimed or maid if you want to see how people sometimes have a limited range of options to choose from and make choices that seem utterly outrageous to us.

Yes, some people have generational trauma and can overcome it, but many cannot. And no one is blaming the white folks on this thread per se, but you must stop being so defensive about things that other folks have done and continue to do that hurts certain segments of the population (whether it be poc, or poor, or lgbt, or disabled, whatever).

I can buy the generational trauma. I can buy that we must help kids break free from the generational trauma. What I don't want to happen, is the victims of generational trauma get a pass/reduced jail time for their crimes because of the generational trauma.

Yes - try to help them but once they commit the crime, they need to be punished. Don't want to be punished? Then take the help that is being given and don't commit crimes.

JFC thank you. I come from a part of the country where there is rampant "generational trauma" in white rural and also indigenous communities. Multi-generational poverty, utter and complete lack of jobs, some of the worst schools in the United States.

You know what is NOT happening in these towns and counties? Daily drive-by shootings. Daily carjackings by tweens FFS. Teens shooting bus drivers (there's not Metro obv.) Teens shooting at each other across playgrounds and hitting bystanders instead.

Oh I know, rural poor American is rife with its own set of dysfunction and deaths of despair. But non-stop lethal violence directed at everyone who may have disrespected you is emphatically NOT a required outcome of a shitty upbringing. Stop excusing these violent criminals to assuage your white UMC guilt.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is one of those stories which simply has no empathetic response except that this young man, the murderer, never had a chance. And that is sad.

Murderer and victim. And something must also be wrong with the mom. I know you think that this is just a case of bad people, but it's all tied up in the dehumanizing of certain segments of our population over generations.

You really think this is the case???
They are bad people and need to be punished. Don’t you dare try and make them the victims.

NP. I think it is most likely the case. And that doesn't mean they aren't "bad people and need to be punished," pp is saying it isn't "JUST a case of bad people." People who victimize can also be victims.

I am the pp who noted the role of dehumanization. The above is my point. Yes, they should absolutely be punished. But you all are fooling yourself if you think they are a$$holes just because. Read the body keeps score. And even nickeled and dimed or maid if you want to see how people sometimes have a limited range of options to choose from and make choices that seem utterly outrageous to us.

Yes, some people have generational trauma and can overcome it, but many cannot. And no one is blaming the white folks on this thread per se, but you must stop being so defensive about things that other folks have done and continue to do that hurts certain segments of the population (whether it be poc, or poor, or lgbt, or disabled, whatever).

I can buy the generational trauma. I can buy that we must help kids break free from the generational trauma. What I don't want to happen, is the victims of generational trauma get a pass/reduced jail time for their crimes because of the generational trauma.

Yes - try to help them but once they commit the crime, they need to be punished. Don't want to be punished? Then take the help that is being given and don't commit crimes.

JFC thank you. I come from a part of the country where there is rampant "generational trauma" in white rural and also indigenous communities. Multi-generational poverty, utter and complete lack of jobs, some of the worst schools in the United States.

You know what is NOT happening in these towns and counties? Daily drive-by shootings. Daily carjackings by tweens FFS. Teens shooting bus drivers (there's not Metro obv.) Teens shooting at each other across playgrounds and hitting bystanders instead.

Oh I know, rural poor American is rife with its own set of dysfunction and deaths of despair. But non-stop lethal violence directed at everyone who may have disrespected you is emphatically NOT a required outcome of a shitty upbringing. Stop excusing these violent criminals to assuage your white UMC guilt.

PP again -- I think it's important to add that in these rural communities I described, nearly EVERY household has a gun. Usually for hunting, but also to protect small cash businesses like pawn shops or gas stations. Or honestly, to protect against wild animals or violent unhoused dogs.

Point being, everyone has access to a weapon, yet the rate of lethal violence is far lower per capita than the District's. Something else is wrong here, and it's not actually "generational trauma" + guns. It's culture. But, talking about culture is the third rail among Dems, let alone self-described liberals or progressives.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Everyone makes all kinds of excuses for this kind or any kind of bad or inappropriate behavior and this is why kids act this way. The adults in their lives think it's ok and cannot be bothered parenting.

There's racism built in. Oh those people can't behave any better than that.

Anyone else disturbed that the posters touting the generational trauma excuse are ironically saying the EXACT SAME THING as the racists—that the criminals can’t help themselves??!!

WUT THE FUHK

Ah yes, please tell me more about how you’re not racist, it’s the Black people that are “The Real Racists” and policy proposals around criminal justice reform are the equivalent of exterminationist racism. This website attracts a lot of sick people, apparently yourself included.

Anonymous wrote:Just kill them both before they breed again.

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Anonymous wrote:This is one of those stories which simply has no empathetic response except that this young man, the murderer, never had a chance. And that is sad.

Murderer and victim. And something must also be wrong with the mom. I know you think that this is just a case of bad people, but it's all tied up in the dehumanizing of certain segments of our population over generations.

You really think this is the case???
They are bad people and need to be punished. Don’t you dare try and make them the victims.

NP. I think it is most likely the case. And that doesn't mean they aren't "bad people and need to be punished," pp is saying it isn't "JUST a case of bad people." People who victimize can also be victims.

I am the pp who noted the role of dehumanization. The above is my point. Yes, they should absolutely be punished. But you all are fooling yourself if you think they are a$$holes just because. Read the body keeps score. And even nickeled and dimed or maid if you want to see how people sometimes have a limited range of options to choose from and make choices that seem utterly outrageous to us.

Yes, some people have generational trauma and can overcome it, but many cannot. And no one is blaming the white folks on this thread per se, but you must stop being so defensive about things that other folks have done and continue to do that hurts certain segments of the population (whether it be poc, or poor, or lgbt, or disabled, whatever).

I can buy the generational trauma. I can buy that we must help kids break free from the generational trauma. What I don't want to happen, is the victims of generational trauma get a pass/reduced jail time for their crimes because of the generational trauma.

Yes - try to help them but once they commit the crime, they need to be punished. Don't want to be punished? Then take the help that is being given and don't commit crimes.

JFC thank you. I come from a part of the country where there is rampant "generational trauma" in white rural and also indigenous communities. Multi-generational poverty, utter and complete lack of jobs, some of the worst schools in the United States.

You know what is NOT happening in these towns and counties? Daily drive-by shootings. Daily carjackings by tweens FFS. Teens shooting bus drivers (there's not Metro obv.) Teens shooting at each other across playgrounds and hitting bystanders instead.

Oh I know, rural poor American is rife with its own set of dysfunction and deaths of despair. But non-stop lethal violence directed at everyone who may have disrespected you is emphatically NOT a required outcome of a shitty upbringing. Stop excusing these violent criminals to assuage your white UMC guilt.

I don’t know what supposed rural areas you are referring to, but violent crime in and around most reservations in the U.S. is very high. For example, in Yakima, WA murders and aggravated assaults are at rates twice the national average.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/yakima-yakima-wa/crime-safety/

In addition, the poorest city in West Virginia is Huntington. Violent crime there is even worse, with murder rates almost 4 times the national average.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/huntington-cabell-wv/crime-safety/

For reference, violent crime in DC is marginally worse than in Huntington, but not dramatically so.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/washington-dc-district-of-columbia-dc/crime-safety/

So the data doesn’t back up your veiled racism. The only thing special about DC than the rest of the country is that violent crime is increasing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is one of those stories which simply has no empathetic response except that this young man, the murderer, never had a chance. And that is sad.

Murderer and victim. And something must also be wrong with the mom. I know you think that this is just a case of bad people, but it's all tied up in the dehumanizing of certain segments of our population over generations.

You really think this is the case???
They are bad people and need to be punished. Don’t you dare try and make them the victims.

NP. I think it is most likely the case. And that doesn't mean they aren't "bad people and need to be punished," pp is saying it isn't "JUST a case of bad people." People who victimize can also be victims.

I am the pp who noted the role of dehumanization. The above is my point. Yes, they should absolutely be punished. But you all are fooling yourself if you think they are a$$holes just because. Read the body keeps score. And even nickeled and dimed or maid if you want to see how people sometimes have a limited range of options to choose from and make choices that seem utterly outrageous to us.

Yes, some people have generational trauma and can overcome it, but many cannot. And no one is blaming the white folks on this thread per se, but you must stop being so defensive about things that other folks have done and continue to do that hurts certain segments of the population (whether it be poc, or poor, or lgbt, or disabled, whatever).

I can buy the generational trauma. I can buy that we must help kids break free from the generational trauma. What I don't want to happen, is the victims of generational trauma get a pass/reduced jail time for their crimes because of the generational trauma.

Yes - try to help them but once they commit the crime, they need to be punished. Don't want to be punished? Then take the help that is being given and don't commit crimes.

JFC thank you. I come from a part of the country where there is rampant "generational trauma" in white rural and also indigenous communities. Multi-generational poverty, utter and complete lack of jobs, some of the worst schools in the United States.

You know what is NOT happening in these towns and counties? Daily drive-by shootings. Daily carjackings by tweens FFS. Teens shooting bus drivers (there's not Metro obv.) Teens shooting at each other across playgrounds and hitting bystanders instead.

Oh I know, rural poor American is rife with its own set of dysfunction and deaths of despair. But non-stop lethal violence directed at everyone who may have disrespected you is emphatically NOT a required outcome of a shitty upbringing. Stop excusing these violent criminals to assuage your white UMC guilt.

I don’t know what supposed rural areas you are referring to, but violent crime in and around most reservations in the U.S. is very high. For example, in Yakima, WA murders and aggravated assaults are at rates twice the national average.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/yakima-yakima-wa/crime-safety/

In addition, the poorest city in West Virginia is Huntington. Violent crime there is even worse, with murder rates almost 4 times the national average.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/huntington-cabell-wv/crime-safety/

For reference, violent crime in DC is marginally worse than in Huntington, but not dramatically so.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/washington-dc-district-of-columbia-dc/crime-safety/

So the data doesn’t back up your veiled racism. The only thing special about DC than the rest of the country is that violent crime is increasing.

So what you are saying is that nothing can be done. It is what it is and no one should be punished.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Janeese Lewis-George says we can't arrest 17 year olds for murder because jail will "traumatize" them.

Oh ffs. Jail WILL traumatize them. Incarceration is a traumatic experience. You can have the points you have without implying that it's untrue that jail will be traumatic. It absolutely will be.

Also, generations of disenfranchisement do actually have a lot to do with how people got to the points they got to. It is not making excuses to point out that structural realities exist that make "personal responsibility" a very reductive response to a complicated problem.

These murderers exalt in the power they have to prey over their victims (who are more often than not suffering from disenfranchisement. To try to turn the killer into someone you boo hoo over is why we have so many killers in this city.

Jail should be less traumatic, but also a place we do not hesitate to lock up killers for a long time.

It is not "turning the killer into someone you boo hoo over" to point out that these people are suffering the same disenfranchisement in the same community. It is a complicated problem that your particular kind of rhetoric does nothing to solve. This is not an emotional argument, but you're making it an emotional argument with language like "exalt in the power" and "boo hoo." We have "so many killers in this city" because of a lot of extreme poverty and generational trauma, not because we're being too light on sending 17yo to adult prisons.

DP: Lack of consequences is a strong psychologically formative tool: it rewards bad behavior and causes escalating behavior in search of limits. Without consequences to limit behavior, there are literally no limits to what a human being may do. If family does not provide those limits, society must.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is one of those stories which simply has no empathetic response except that this young man, the murderer, never had a chance. And that is sad.

Murderer and victim. And something must also be wrong with the mom. I know you think that this is just a case of bad people, but it's all tied up in the dehumanizing of certain segments of our population over generations.

You really think this is the case???
They are bad people and need to be punished. Don’t you dare try and make them the victims.

NP. I think it is most likely the case. And that doesn't mean they aren't "bad people and need to be punished," pp is saying it isn't "JUST a case of bad people." People who victimize can also be victims.

I am the pp who noted the role of dehumanization. The above is my point. Yes, they should absolutely be punished. But you all are fooling yourself if you think they are a$$holes just because. Read the body keeps score. And even nickeled and dimed or maid if you want to see how people sometimes have a limited range of options to choose from and make choices that seem utterly outrageous to us.

Yes, some people have generational trauma and can overcome it, but many cannot. And no one is blaming the white folks on this thread per se, but you must stop being so defensive about things that other folks have done and continue to do that hurts certain segments of the population (whether it be poc, or poor, or lgbt, or disabled, whatever).

I can buy the generational trauma. I can buy that we must help kids break free from the generational trauma. What I don't want to happen, is the victims of generational trauma get a pass/reduced jail time for their crimes because of the generational trauma.

Yes - try to help them but once they commit the crime, they need to be punished. Don't want to be punished? Then take the help that is being given and don't commit crimes.

JFC thank you. I come from a part of the country where there is rampant "generational trauma" in white rural and also indigenous communities. Multi-generational poverty, utter and complete lack of jobs, some of the worst schools in the United States.

You know what is NOT happening in these towns and counties? Daily drive-by shootings. Daily carjackings by tweens FFS. Teens shooting bus drivers (there's not Metro obv.) Teens shooting at each other across playgrounds and hitting bystanders instead.

Oh I know, rural poor American is rife with its own set of dysfunction and deaths of despair. But non-stop lethal violence directed at everyone who may have disrespected you is emphatically NOT a required outcome of a shitty upbringing. Stop excusing these violent criminals to assuage your white UMC guilt.

I don’t know what supposed rural areas you are referring to, but violent crime in and around most reservations in the U.S. is very high. For example, in Yakima, WA murders and aggravated assaults are at rates twice the national average.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/yakima-yakima-wa/crime-safety/

In addition, the poorest city in West Virginia is Huntington. Violent crime there is even worse, with murder rates almost 4 times the national average.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/huntington-cabell-wv/crime-safety/

For reference, violent crime in DC is marginally worse than in Huntington, but not dramatically so.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/washington-dc-district-of-columbia-dc/crime-safety/

So the data doesn’t back up your veiled racism. The only thing special about DC than the rest of the country is that violent crime is increasing.

So what you are saying is that nothing can be done. It is what it is and no one should be punished.

No. What I am saying is that your racist theories about violent crime are racist.

A lot can and should be done. NYC is significantly safer than any of these places. Emulating NYC with more aggressive policing and prosecution of people who commit crimes and cause public disorder is the obvious solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Janeese Lewis-George says we can't arrest 17 year olds for murder because jail will "traumatize" them.

Oh ffs. Jail WILL traumatize them. Incarceration is a traumatic experience. You can have the points you have without implying that it's untrue that jail will be traumatic. It absolutely will be.

Also, generations of disenfranchisement do actually have a lot to do with how people got to the points they got to. It is not making excuses to point out that structural realities exist that make "personal responsibility" a very reductive response to a complicated problem.

These murderers exalt in the power they have to prey over their victims (who are more often than not suffering from disenfranchisement. To try to turn the killer into someone you boo hoo over is why we have so many killers in this city.

Jail should be less traumatic, but also a place we do not hesitate to lock up killers for a long time.

It is not "turning the killer into someone you boo hoo over" to point out that these people are suffering the same disenfranchisement in the same community. It is a complicated problem that your particular kind of rhetoric does nothing to solve. This is not an emotional argument, but you're making it an emotional argument with language like "exalt in the power" and "boo hoo." We have "so many killers in this city" because of a lot of extreme poverty and generational trauma, not because we're being too light on sending 17yo to adult prisons.

DP: Lack of consequences is a strong psychologically formative tool: it rewards bad behavior and causes escalating behavior in search of limits. Without consequences to limit behavior, there are literally no limits to what a human being may do. If family does not provide those limits, society must.

This + 1

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone makes all kinds of excuses for this kind or any kind of bad or inappropriate behavior and this is why kids act this way. The adults in their lives think its ok and cannot be bothered parenting.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is one of those stories which simply has no empathetic response except that this young man, the murderer, never had a chance. And that is sad.

Murderer and victim. And something must also be wrong with the mom. I know you think that this is just a case of bad people, but it's all tied up in the dehumanizing of certain segments of our population over generations.

You really think this is the case???
They are bad people and need to be punished. Don’t you dare try and make them the victims.

NP. I think it is most likely the case. And that doesn't mean they aren't "bad people and need to be punished," pp is saying it isn't "JUST a case of bad people." People who victimize can also be victims.

I am the pp who noted the role of dehumanization. The above is my point. Yes, they should absolutely be punished. But you all are fooling yourself if you think they are a$$holes just because. Read the body keeps score. And even nickeled and dimed or maid if you want to see how people sometimes have a limited range of options to choose from and make choices that seem utterly outrageous to us.

Yes, some people have generational trauma and can overcome it, but many cannot. And no one is blaming the white folks on this thread per se, but you must stop being so defensive about things that other folks have done and continue to do that hurts certain segments of the population (whether it be poc, or poor, or lgbt, or disabled, whatever).

I can buy the generational trauma. I can buy that we must help kids break free from the generational trauma. What I don't want to happen, is the victims of generational trauma get a pass/reduced jail time for their crimes because of the generational trauma.

Yes - try to help them but once they commit the crime, they need to be punished. Don't want to be punished? Then take the help that is being given and don't commit crimes.

JFC thank you. I come from a part of the country where there is rampant "generational trauma" in white rural and also indigenous communities. Multi-generational poverty, utter and complete lack of jobs, some of the worst schools in the United States.

You know what is NOT happening in these towns and counties? Daily drive-by shootings. Daily carjackings by tweens FFS. Teens shooting bus drivers (there's not Metro obv.) Teens shooting at each other across playgrounds and hitting bystanders instead.

Oh I know, rural poor American is rife with its own set of dysfunction and deaths of despair. But non-stop lethal violence directed at everyone who may have disrespected you is emphatically NOT a required outcome of a shitty upbringing. Stop excusing these violent criminals to assuage your white UMC guilt.

I don’t know what supposed rural areas you are referring to, but violent crime in and around most reservations in the U.S. is very high. For example, in Yakima, WA murders and aggravated assaults are at rates twice the national average.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/yakima-yakima-wa/crime-safety/

In addition, the poorest city in West Virginia is Huntington. Violent crime there is even worse, with murder rates almost 4 times the national average.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/huntington-cabell-wv/crime-safety/

For reference, violent crime in DC is marginally worse than in Huntington, but not dramatically so.
https://www.niche.com/places-to-live/washington-dc-district-of-columbia-dc/crime-safety/

So the data doesn’t back up your veiled racism. The only thing special about DC than the rest of the country is that violent crime is increasing.

So what you are saying is that nothing can be done. It is what it is and no one should be punished.

No. What I am saying is that your racist theories about violent crime are racist.

A lot can and should be done. NYC is significantly safer than any of these places. Emulating NYC with more aggressive policing and prosecution of people who commit crimes and cause public disorder is the obvious solution.

But we aren't aggressively policing rural towns. What about equity?