St. James Winter League 23-24

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Let every program handle it the way it wants. I just wanted to point out that each HS/club/program treats this league differently, so don't assume others are playing the same way/that you can extrapolate a lot from the results (or pass judgements on whose approach is better).

Box is a great way to have some winter games and keep a stick in everyone's hand. end of story.

That sounds reasonable and nice but when you have volunteer moms and dads trying to keep the experience light and fun for their players go up against screaming HCs who think they’re competing in the Final Four, the two approaches clash. STJ: set a policy everyone can adopt where the rules are clearly defined.

Again, go make the complaint to the STJ officially then. Otherwise you just come here and complain every year. Don't like it? Go try to do something about it other than complaining on an anonymous message board as if it's going to change anything.

STJ reads this forum, as do many parent volunteers and parents who feel the same way. Thanks for the suggestion but I’ll keep posting here, coach. Sunlight is the greatest disinfectant, the wonderful saying goes ….

Actually, you tried this line of argument last year--with zero impact--and distracted from actual discussion about lacrosse. Counting on St James, which doesn't even have a lacrosse director, to read this forum and make policy decisions based on your complaints is kind of ridiculous. Just a distraction and a waste of time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let every program handle it the way it wants. I just wanted to point out that each HS/club/program treats this league differently, so don't assume others are playing the same way/that you can extrapolate a lot from the results (or pass judgements on whose approach is better).

Box is a great way to have some winter games and keep a stick in everyone's hand. end of story.

That sounds reasonable and nice but when you have volunteer moms and dads trying to keep the experience light and fun for their players go up against screaming HCs who think they’re competing in the Final Four, the two approaches clash. STJ: set a policy everyone can adopt where the rules are clearly defined.

Again, go make the complaint to the STJ officially then. Otherwise you just come here and complain every year. Don't like it? Go try to do something about it other than complaining on an anonymous message board as if it's going to change anything.

STJ reads this forum, as do many parent volunteers and parents who feel the same way. Thanks for the suggestion but I’ll keep posting here, coach. Sunlight is the greatest disinfectant, the wonderful saying goes ….

Actually, you tried this line of argument last year--with zero impact--and distracted from actual discussion about lacrosse. Counting on St James, which doesn't even have a lacrosse director, to read this forum and make policy decisions based on your complaints is kind of ridiculous. Just a distraction and a waste of time.

Coach: please read the thread title. It specifically deals with the St James winter indoor league. It’s a topic many volunteer parent coaches have discussed. Some of it about you and your behavior, specifically. If it’s that offensive to you, there’s a simple solution: go somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

I was told NO off season coaching of the kids outside of greendays. No st James, no fall ball and none of the tournaments.

County, st James, vhsl or whatever rules, not going to go against what I was told.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let every program handle it the way it wants. I just wanted to point out that each HS/club/program treats this league differently, so don't assume others are playing the same way/that you can extrapolate a lot from the results (or pass judgements on whose approach is better).

Box is a great way to have some winter games and keep a stick in everyone's hand. end of story.

That sounds reasonable and nice but when you have volunteer moms and dads trying to keep the experience light and fun for their players go up against screaming HCs who think they’re competing in the Final Four, the two approaches clash. STJ: set a policy everyone can adopt where the rules are clearly defined.

Again, go make the complaint to the STJ officially then. Otherwise you just come here and complain every year. Don't like it? Go try to do something about it other than complaining on an anonymous message board as if it's going to change anything.

STJ reads this forum, as do many parent volunteers and parents who feel the same way. Thanks for the suggestion but I’ll keep posting here, coach. Sunlight is the greatest disinfectant, the wonderful saying goes ….

Actually, you tried this line of argument last year--with zero impact--and distracted from actual discussion about lacrosse. Counting on St James, which doesn't even have a lacrosse director, to read this forum and make policy decisions based on your complaints is kind of ridiculous. Just a distraction and a waste of time.

Coach: please read the thread title. It specifically deals with the St James winter indoor league. It’s a topic many volunteer parent coaches have discussed. Some of it about you and your behavior, specifically. If it’s that offensive to you, there’s a simple solution: go somewhere else.

I posted the post starting with "Actually...". Not a coach and not the person you were arguing with. I'm just an observer that has become annoyed with your continued scolding when on an anonymous thread set up to discuss lacrosse.

My daughter's club team participates in the Winter League, with parent coaches, and routinely plays teams with their club coach on the sideline. No one stresses or complains, because it's a low key Winter indoor league with no standings, no winners, no consequences. It is for the girls to practice, learn, and have some fun. I guarantee you our parent coaches of my daughter's club are not complaining or actively discussing the issue with you. You truly need to lighten up and get some perspective.

Easy on the "volunteer" stuff as well; it's not a soup kitchen or a real service job--you are coaching lacrosse for your kid. Plus, as your insistence on mentioning the volunteer status highlights, you don't have to do it. And as I'm not the person you think you are talking to, my sideline behavior is not at issue.

[Anonymous]

Anyone know when schedules are coming out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let every program handle it the way it wants. I just wanted to point out that each HS/club/program treats this league differently, so don't assume others are playing the same way/that you can extrapolate a lot from the results (or pass judgements on whose approach is better).

Box is a great way to have some winter games and keep a stick in everyone's hand. end of story.

That sounds reasonable and nice but when you have volunteer moms and dads trying to keep the experience light and fun for their players go up against screaming HCs who think they’re competing in the Final Four, the two approaches clash. STJ: set a policy everyone can adopt where the rules are clearly defined.

Again, go make the complaint to the STJ officially then. Otherwise you just come here and complain every year. Don't like it? Go try to do something about it other than complaining on an anonymous message board as if it's going to change anything.

STJ reads this forum, as do many parent volunteers and parents who feel the same way. Thanks for the suggestion but I’ll keep posting here, coach. Sunlight is the greatest disinfectant, the wonderful saying goes ….

Actually, you tried this line of argument last year--with zero impact--and distracted from actual discussion about lacrosse. Counting on St James, which doesn't even have a lacrosse director, to read this forum and make policy decisions based on your complaints is kind of ridiculous. Just a distraction and a waste of time.

Coach: please read the thread title. It specifically deals with the St James winter indoor league. It’s a topic many volunteer parent coaches have discussed. Some of it about you and your behavior, specifically. If it’s that offensive to you, there’s a simple solution: go somewhere else.

I posted the post starting with "Actually...". Not a coach and not the person you were arguing with. I'm just an observer that has become annoyed with your continued scolding when on an anonymous thread set up to discuss lacrosse.

My daughter's club team participates in the Winter League, with parent coaches, and routinely plays teams with their club coach on the sideline. No one stresses or complains, because it's a low key Winter indoor league with no standings, no winners, no consequences. It is for the girls to practice, learn, and have some fun. I guarantee you our parent coaches of my daughter's club are not complaining or actively discussing the issue with you. You truly need to lighten up and get some perspective.

Easy on the "volunteer" stuff as well; it's not a soup kitchen or a real service job--you are coaching lacrosse for your kid. Plus, as your insistence on mentioning the volunteer status highlights, you don't have to do it. And as I'm not the person you think you are talking to, my sideline behavior is not at issue.

Aside from much of this not making any sense you’re free to ramble as you wish. But your description that this is just “for the girls to practice, learn, and have some fun” is hypocritically rich. That’s precisely what the volunteer parent coaches want - the ones who make up 95 percent of the coaches on the sidelines. But the HC’s who coach often bring an embarrassing level of psycho-ness to the sidelines. They make it a bragging-rights conquest which undermines the “learn / fun” experience you transparently claim to support. Peddle the sanctimony somewhere else, it ain’t workin’.

[Anonymous]

Volunteer parent coach here and I have no issue with other approaches, including the intense ones. I actually think it is good for my daughter to see the level of competition when she steps on the varsity field in the spring. Voicing this opinion bc volunteer parent coach is not a monolithic group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Volunteer parent coach here and I have no issue with other approaches, including the intense ones. I actually think it is good for my daughter to see the level of competition when she steps on the varsity field in the spring. Voicing this opinion bc volunteer parent coach is not a monolithic group.

Agree. It really seems more like someone has an axe to grind with a particular coach than anything and/or is envious that GC coach is allowed to be there and takes advantage of that allowance. And it's not like many of these parent volunteer coaches aren't obnoxious. I can think of teams in particular that had dads on the sideline last year that were completely ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone know when schedules are coming out?

I heard it comes out today Nov 15.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone know when schedules are coming out?

I heard it comes out today Nov 15.

Heard from another source it comes out on 20th. Will wait and see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Volunteer parent coach here and I have no issue with other approaches, including the intense ones. I actually think it is good for my daughter to see the level of competition when she steps on the varsity field in the spring. Voicing this opinion bc volunteer parent coach is not a monolithic group.

Agree. It really seems more like someone has an axe to grind with a particular coach than anything and/or is envious that GC coach is allowed to be there and takes advantage of that allowance. And it's not like many of these parent volunteer coaches aren't obnoxious. I can think of teams in particular that had dads on the sideline last year that were completely ridiculous.

Coach: when you pretend to be two different people on this forum, can you please space out your posts a little more next time? You realize these posts are time stamped, right? Eight minutes transpired from your first post pretending to be a volunteer coach, to a four sentence follow-up supporting your own POV. That’s not enough to fool anybody. Good lord

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Volunteer parent coach here and I have no issue with other approaches, including the intense ones. I actually think it is good for my daughter to see the level of competition when she steps on the varsity field in the spring. Voicing this opinion bc volunteer parent coach is not a monolithic group.

Agree. It really seems more like someone has an axe to grind with a particular coach than anything and/or is envious that GC coach is allowed to be there and takes advantage of that allowance. And it's not like many of these parent volunteer coaches aren't obnoxious. I can think of teams in particular that had dads on the sideline last year that were completely ridiculous.

Coach: when you pretend to be two different people on this forum, can you please space out your posts a little more next time? You realize these posts are time stamped, right? Eight minutes transpired from your first post pretending to be a volunteer coach, to a four sentence follow-up supporting your own POV. That’s not enough to fool anybody. Good lord

Believe it or not, it's different people. Unlike you who is the only person that seems to be upset about this. Almost like you are projecting...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Volunteer parent coach here and I have no issue with other approaches, including the intense ones. I actually think it is good for my daughter to see the level of competition when she steps on the varsity field in the spring. Voicing this opinion bc volunteer parent coach is not a monolithic group.

Agree. It really seems more like someone has an axe to grind with a particular coach than anything and/or is envious that GC coach is allowed to be there and takes advantage of that allowance. And it's not like many of these parent volunteer coaches aren't obnoxious. I can think of teams in particular that had dads on the sideline last year that were completely ridiculous.

Coach: when you pretend to be two different people on this forum, can you please space out your posts a little more next time? You realize these posts are time stamped, right? Eight minutes transpired from your first post pretending to be a volunteer coach, to a four sentence follow-up supporting your own POV. That’s not enough to fool anybody. Good lord

Believe it or not, it's different people. Unlike you who is the only person that seems to be upset about this. Almost like you are projecting...

I don’t believe it. No one here does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Volunteer parent coach here and I have no issue with other approaches, including the intense ones. I actually think it is good for my daughter to see the level of competition when she steps on the varsity field in the spring. Voicing this opinion bc volunteer parent coach is not a monolithic group.

Agree. It really seems more like someone has an axe to grind with a particular coach than anything and/or is envious that GC coach is allowed to be there and takes advantage of that allowance. And it's not like many of these parent volunteer coaches aren't obnoxious. I can think of teams in particular that had dads on the sideline last year that were completely ridiculous.

Coach: when you pretend to be two different people on this forum, can you please space out your posts a little more next time? You realize these posts are time stamped, right? Eight minutes transpired from your first post pretending to be a volunteer coach, to a four sentence follow-up supporting your own POV. That’s not enough to fool anybody. Good lord

Believe it or not, it's different people. Unlike you who is the only person that seems to be upset about this. Almost like you are projecting...

I don’t believe it. No one here does.

You know every single person that's here? On this anonymous message board? Wow. Still sounds like you are projecting... or maybe you need a life

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW, my HS daughter will not play with her club, only with her high school.

And her HS team can’t be coached by the main coach bc of rules about when the season can start, so these are essentially captains’ practices.

My daughter will use the winter to focus on skills where she needs the most help (one game last year the captain only wanted her to take low shots) and also where she will likely be needed on her HS team (which is slightly different than where she plays for her club).

All of this is to say, don’t read too much into scores, which this board loves to do.

Apparently HS coaches can coach. Good Counsel’s HC did it last year.

My kid’s school is different conference so maybe rules are different for whatever conference Good Counsel is in.

WCAC allows coaches to coach 10 hours a week in offseason and that includes league games. Public does not allow coaches to coach.

Here's a corrected version of your statement with improved grammar:

"That is why private school players are typically better than others, especially in the WCAC. You cannot simply say that holding a stick in your hand does not make them better when the coach is actively coaching them. To any jealous trolls, feel free to apply; the transfer portal is open."