Why California’s Public Universities Are So Good

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Great option for those that must stay in CA. Low priced high volume education. Sure having over 1,000 kids in a class helps when it comes to making friends. Does it help kids learn, probably not.

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Anonymous wrote:Great option for those that must stay in CA. Low priced high volume education. Sure having over 1,000 kids in a class helps when it comes to making friends. Does it help kids learn, probably not.

well, based on the outcomes, those kids are doing ok. Many of the UCs are highly ranked nationally.

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Anonymous wrote:Great option for those that must stay in CA. Low priced high volume education. Sure having over 1,000 kids in a class helps when it comes to making friends. Does it help kids learn, probably not.

well, based on the outcomes, those kids are doing ok. Many of the UCs are highly ranked nationally.

Yeah, don't feed the anti-CA snark troll. They're always here, casting their inaccuracies around. Best just ignore.

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Great options for Californians.
Hard pass from DMV area.

Why? Just curious

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Great options for Californians.
Hard pass from DMV area.

Why? Just curious

Consider the price difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Great option for those that must stay in CA. Low priced high volume education. Sure having over 1,000 kids in a class helps when it comes to making friends. Does it help kids learn, probably not.

well, based on the outcomes, those kids are doing ok. Many of the UCs are highly ranked nationally.

What good outcomes? A ranking is not an outcome.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great option for those that must stay in CA. Low priced high volume education. Sure having over 1,000 kids in a class helps when it comes to making friends. Does it help kids learn, probably not.

well, based on the outcomes, those kids are doing ok. Many of the UCs are highly ranked nationally.

What good outcomes? A ranking is not an outcome.

Read the methodology.

Our ranking approach, which we significantly revamped three years ago, is designed to identify schools that enroll students from across the socioeconomic spectrum who then go on to graduate, earn high salaries and become leaders in their fields, without spending their young adult years drowning in student debt.

Lots of jealous nellies on here.

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Anonymous wrote:California invested a shit ton of money into its public university system prior to California property tax reform in the late 70s. They took the top students from California, tuition free. I think that investment is still paying dividends.

The student surveys for UC schools on teaching and commitment to undergraduate education are not good relative to other public universities.

I think you're on every California thread saying kids are locked out of class choices. Then an actual parent of someone at UCLA or Berkeley comes along and debunks it. I do wonder if you're suffering from some kind of degenerative disorder (I mean this seriously).

People often use ad hominem attacks when the facts are not on their side. . .

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Anonymous wrote:I gather if you work remote and your kid gets into a UC school, then there is nothing stopping you from moving to CA and then your kid gets residency for Soph - Senior years?

You can do that? 366 days before Sophomore year and you get in-state tuition?

I will check myself of course, but this could be a game changer for us.

You need to be paying income taxes only in CA. My DD is a senior at UCLA. During her Freshman year, DH joined a company in SF and moved there, while I stayed in the DMV because I run a company here. We both go back and forth and spend about 50% of our time in each city. But we couldn't get in state tuition for DD because BOTH of us had to change residency to CA, get a CA driver's license, and pay both of our income taxes in CA. And we both have to live full-time in CA.

BTW - DD LOVES UCLA and has had an amazing experience there even with her first year on-line (she moved there anyway and lived in an off-campus apartment, made a ton of friends and had a blast). The PP who said the campuses are beautiful and the weather amazing is spot on. And UCLA on her resume has opened a lot of doors to great internships and job offers. She will probably be staying in CA after graduation. She also has friends at Berkeley and UCSB and everyone loves their experiences.

For all of the problems that CA has, you just can't beat the quality of life there. Whenver we go out into nature for a hike or on a boat in the SF Bay, DH always says we are paying high taxes for this lifestyle and views. After having spent a lot of time on both coasts, the DMV just can't compare to the life in CA. I'm sure lots of you will jump in and try to prove me wrong. But we prefer the lifestyle in CA.

I live in CA and get your point, but young people who are not on the property ladder are leaving in large numbers because they cannot afford it and don't see a future there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting, because K-12 public school funding is crap in CA (I'm a product of it). I went to one of the colleges you listed.

IMO, CA universities are good because there are a lot of really smart kids there, in part, because there are a lot of high paying jobs which attracts smart people.

CA has opened more UC and CSU campuses since I lived/went to school there. They have a lot of colleges because they have a lot of people.

It's hard to replicate the success of CA public universities because you need the population size and the high paying jobs to attract smart people to the state.

Unlike NY, CA has high paying jobs both in NorCal and Socal, in several different counties. oth, for NY, most of the high paying jobs are are concentrated in NYC.

TX and FL have the population size, but not enough metro areas with high paying jobs. Nor are Rs all that keen on education.

Couple of points

1) name a state (other than Massachusetts) where funding and success match in k-12. My thesis: spending on public education doesn’t correlate to success

2) take a state like Maryland: you’d need a really smart actuary to figure out spending - so much money given away by libs that it distorts what ACTUALLY goes to schools. But MD spends a lot while Florida spends little. Guess the better NAEP? Yep FL by a long shot with similar demographics too.

3) so check your red state bias