DP but your seemingly crappy attitude about it almost guarantees she won’t (be able to) commit to it (even though if done correctly it is the healthier choice for both her and the planet) |
You folks are likely thinking of salad the way meat eaters do. Salad is a whole world of delicious and more than adequately nutritious foods. The best foods for gut health and overall health are vegetables, fruits, beans, whole grains, nuts/seeds. Meat is unnecessary for optimal human health. You folks making the anti vegan statements should really know that the Google machine easily debunks all your bogus claims. Also, vegan body builders - there are many just a Google away. Here’s one: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/vegan-bodybuilder-how-to-build-muscle-on-plant-based-diet-2020-10%3famp He eats salads and fruit and bread - oh my! |
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More elite athlete vegans getting by on a crap diet of fruit and salads and bread:
https://www.insider.com/nfl-star-cam-newton-stars-in-peta-ad-promoting-veganism-2020-7 |
I mean, that’s what the French and Greek eat and let me tell you, they look way better than overweight Americans. Live healthier longer lives too. |
| Christiano Ronaldo and Tom Brady are almost vegetarians too, save for fish here and there I think. Best looking and performing athletes out there. |
This is exactly what happened to my friend’s child. Vegetarian -> vegan -> eating disorder. |
Oh please, the vegetarian/vegan did not cause an eating disorder. Two separate issues. |
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What is your daughter’s favorite vegan meal? Does she know anything about nutrition? Is she a fairly adventurous eater ? Tofu, tempeh, farro. Does she like beans? Watch if she carefully manages to avoid pasta, bread and rice. |
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Another poster advising you to make sure this is not a way to hide disordered eating. This is a common and socially acceptable way to restrict eating.
There is research suggesting that vegan diets may be associated with higher rates of depression. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36045075/ Make sure to supplement with B12. |
What a liar you are, presenting the findings as you did. In fact, they found NO evidence establishing a link. Contradictory, they called it. More study needed, they said. Mental health being epidemic in our society, it quite clearly isn’t the fault of plant based diets since only about 5% of us are following said diet.
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I totally get this, and in our household as well, I was keto for a while, so it added to the overall chaos. I basically always have a vegetable dish that everyone can eat, and I often make it pretty hearty. Sometimes we have bowls - so if I made poke bowls, for example, I would just use a vegan mayo as an ingredient in the sauce, salmon for most of us, tofu for her, and the rice and vegetables are vegan anyway. I use Earth Balance, Olive oil and vegan mayo in place of anything else I might use to roast, saute, or sauce. If I am making something like sausage, I would get impossible sausage and prep that too. It's not too bad, but maybe that's because I was always dairy free anyway! |
HA! Because French food has no cheese or butter? And Greeks don't eat meat and cheese? GTFOH. So many people who reference the mediterranean diets have never actually lived on the Med. They eat balanced meals. There's a difference. |
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I would encourage her to be vegetarian instead of vegan, if she isn’t dead set on eliminating all animal products for ethical reasons.
12-20ish is when girls are building their bone density for life. If they end up malnourished, they will have consequences in their 40+ I would question a teen’s ability and palate to be able to get enough calcium, vit D, and protein. While you can supplement vit D, calcium supplements are shown to have poor absorption and may be helpful at all. It is far better to get calcium from food sources. Is your daughter likely to eat several cups of kale, edamame, and broccoli per day? |
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I got so sick when I was a vegetarian. Everyone is different. I have no doubt that some vegetarians/vegans are incredibly healthy, but no it's not for everyone.
Op, your dd now needs to help you meal plan, shop, and cook. And have the rest of your family do the same so it's not all on you all the time. My 13 year old cooked dinner the other night and was chatting on FaceTime with a friend while they cooked and the friend was shocked that they knew how. Start them young. It's a great skill! |
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OP, DP here but to answer a different question of yours, when I was in my late teens, I was vegetarian for a number of years. Then I was a vegan for a while. For me, it was a phase and now I eat everything. There was nothing wrong with that phase but it simply became too inconvenient for me. I was focused on eating healthy and the general food that was swirling about your average teen that was also vegan was not healthy. Basically, it was too much work and planning for me.
On a side note, my DH who had always been a strict meat and potatoes man, said he could easily become vegetarian if he could eat like we did in Sri Lanka, which has a lot of vegetarian and vegan dishes on the menu. I agree with one of OP's points that being lacto-ovo vegetarian is way easier. |