You can certainly say you *won’t* provide it. And if you know you’re not going to, how would it be “honest” to say otherwise? Obviously that could lead to due process complaints if those services/supports are really warranted. But if it makes you feel any better, that process is so corrupt in Maryland that parents literally never win. |
I’m the OP who shocked everyone with comments about spec Ed. I never said there is lack of good faith or lack of attempt to implement. There is. But at the end of the day, there are many unreasonable requests from parents , advocates and lawyers and they just cannot be provided the way the iep is written. But I can’t say that and there is no way my admin will say it. Some admin will say it depending on the parent but if they have representation (lawyer or advocate) we agree to it all usually. It’s just not worth fighting. But this forum asked what I want you to know. I want you to know that if you have a case manager with 20 kids on a caseload , serving 3 grade levels or more, and large class sizes …. It might not be happening! |
Thank god we put our kids in private as soon as the pandemic hit. Any doubts I had about that decision are gone after reading this thread. |
And this comment is so helpful to those parents with students in special education. Just go away - how did that help? |
Hate to burst your bubble but those places aren’t regulated and I hear stories from staff who work in them too. |
I mean, I appreciate the honesty… I just don’t understand why you seem to think that’s OK. |
NP. Because if the teacher is honest with the likes of parents on this forum, the parent will sue. The end result, either after mediation or due process, will be tens of hours of time spent away from other students on this dispute, at which point the teacher and paraeducators will be directed to give more attention and hours to your Larlo, at the expense of Aiden, Brayden, and Cayden in the other class being shoved into larger groupings with much less attention, because their parents are less difficult. Extra staff won't materialize out of spare molecules. It's lose-lose. |
Perhaps on a more productive note, what would be the best way for parents to verify whether classroom supports are provided? There are no natural records produced for many of them, and it’s not like you can get that information from the child in a lot of cases. |
Because the parents are less difficult, or because the kids themselves require less support than the child requiring special education services? Obviously it would be a lot cheaper and easier to just ignore the kids with special needs, but that’s the whole point of the federal/state laws and due process rights. Covering up the lack of legally-mandated services shouldn't be considered an acceptable way to deal with this. |
Nowhere did the OP say it's OK. They're just being honest and answering a question that was raised and it's the dirty truth and fact. Especially when schools are understaffed and you're a case manager with 20+ kids across multiple grade levels and needed to do testing and writing ieps and paperwork. |
I don’t think anyone thinks the sped situation is ok. I have 2 kids with special needs, but they are the quiet, non-disruptive type (dyslexia/ anxiety). So we definitely do a lot of things privately.
I also do my very best to take on anything possible to free up the teachers to be able to plan and support teaching. I cannot count how many materials I have cut, laminated, color-coded. I have walked kids in the halls to specials, and I have volunteered in lunchrooms and playgrounds. I know that not everyone can do these things. But there has to be a better way for schools to effectively leverage volunteers to take some of the non-teaching work off the shoulders of teachers. My retired parents are currently volunteering at our old parochial school as “homework helpers”. My dad swears the biggest value he brings is having sharpened pencils and telling the kids he is sure they can figure it out. I don’t trust school admin or central office to add any value. |
Well, you’re implicitly suggesting its OK by going along with the lying/misleading rather than letting the legal process function as intended to determine what obligations the school system has. |
In some cases they actively fight potential help. I’ve been told in no uncertain terms that they won’t let an RBT in the classroom. I think the principals can be moderately helpful, but the problem is that requests for additional sped resources need to be approved through central. |
20 kids is not a huge number especially when it’s very mixed needs. You are making excuses |
Our es would not allow parent volunteers. Always made me wonder what they had to hide. |