US credit worthiness downgraded yet again

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:So funny to read these comments from the Fox News/MSNBC viewing crowd that have been duped into thinking everything wrong with this country is the fault of the evil other side. Our Federal Government has been in decline for decades as a result of being run by two failing political parties. It is what it is. Take the goggles of political bias and off and see the truth for what it is.

NP... How about reading the ACTUAL WORDING from Fitch's statement

Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process. These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population.

"Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process."

That's all on Republicans and their intransigence, and holding the government hostage

Continuing,

"These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population."

Tax cuts - all Republican. New spending initiatives - both Democrat and Republican. Limited progress on tackling social security and medicare - also due to Republican intransigence, unless you think screwing over the elderly and the disabled and being the only modern industrialized nation to do so is somehow a good thing.

In other words, those of Liz Cheney, “We’re electing idiots!”

I wouldn't characterize them all as idiots but the quality of people being put in front of us by the R and D parties certainly isn't what it used to be. Yet the knucklehead wing nuts will continue to assume all problems are caused by the other side.

Who are the dimits in the House on the left who compare to Marge Green and Lauren Boebert?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So revealing how Democrats are shoving solar 24/7. Yet 80% of our solar panels are imported from China.

What environmental regulations does China practice? Zero. So the the fake solution is actually making the problem a gazillion times worse. Anyone who cares, wants to get the heck out of Communist China.

I guess you missed the part where the Biden Administration has incentivized solar production in the US which is part of the 800,000 new manufacturing jobs he has created.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But keep in proposing trillions in free student loan forgiveness, cash handouts, green initiatives, free healthcare, free housing, free childcare, free this, free that.

Democrats are delusional. Keep on blowing up the govt credit card. No one ever has to pay for all of this 'free' S#@*, right?

Free, free, free...everyone deserves something free from Uncle Sam these days because they simply exist and breathe air.

Terrible:

https://www.barrons.com/news/fitch-downgrades-us-credit-rating-after-debt-limit-standoffs-782ab003

Oh, like farm and fossil fuel subsidies supported by Republicans or out of control defense spending? How come people like you never bring that up? Or tax cuts to billionaires and multinationals? Huh, pal?

Oh right, couldn't be Biden's $6T spending plans:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/us/politics/biden-spending-plans.html

It's laughable you probably simultaneously drink idiot Kool Aid from clown shows like AOC who has $30T spending plans for green initiatives in the works with no bat of the eye.

Keep.on bankrupting country. Let's see how well your green initiatives and student loan forgiveness work when the country is insolvent.

Nice trick bringing this up without answering my questions.

You're like the SD governor. Hates gubmint spending but her state's economy relies on farm subsidies and an air force base.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So funny to read these comments from the Fox News/MSNBC viewing crowd that have been duped into thinking everything wrong with this country is the fault of the evil other side. Our Federal Government has been in decline for decades as a result of being run by two failing political parties. It is what it is. Take the goggles of political bias and off and see the truth for what it is.

NP... How about reading the ACTUAL WORDING from Fitch's statement

Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process. These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population.

"Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process."

That's all on Republicans and their intransigence, and holding the government hostage

Continuing,

"These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population."

Tax cuts - all Republican. New spending initiatives - both Democrat and Republican. Limited progress on tackling social security and medicare - also due to Republican intransigence, unless you think screwing over the elderly and the disabled and being the only modern industrialized nation to do so is somehow a good thing.

In other words, those of Liz Cheney, “We’re electing idiots!”

In this case, the overwhelming majority of the idiocy highlighted by Fitch is coming from Republican ideologies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But keep in proposing trillions in free student loan forgiveness, cash handouts, green initiatives, free healthcare, free housing, free childcare, free this, free that.

Democrats are delusional. Keep on blowing up the govt credit card. No one ever has to pay for all of this 'free' S#@*, right?

Free, free, free...everyone deserves something free from Uncle Sam these days because they simply exist and breathe air.

Terrible:

https://www.barrons.com/news/fitch-downgrades-us-credit-rating-after-debt-limit-standoffs-782ab003

Oh, like farm and fossil fuel subsidies supported by Republicans or out of control defense spending? How come people like you never bring that up? Or tax cuts to billionaires and multinationals? Huh, pal?

Oh right, couldn't be Biden's $6T spending plans:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/28/us/politics/biden-spending-plans.html

It's laughable you probably simultaneously drink idiot Kool Aid from clown shows like AOC who has $30T spending plans for green initiatives in the works with no bat of the eye.

Keep.on bankrupting country. Let's see how well your green initiatives and student loan forgiveness work when the country is insolvent.

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[Anonymous]

We are getting a government shutdown. Congress comes back from August recess in mid-Sept. and have 11 spending bills to pass. The House nut jobs aren’t going to pass anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So funny to read these comments from the Fox News/MSNBC viewing crowd that have been duped into thinking everything wrong with this country is the fault of the evil other side. Our Federal Government has been in decline for decades as a result of being run by two failing political parties. It is what it is. Take the goggles of political bias and off and see the truth for what it is.

This thread is a perfect illustration of the reasoning behind the downgrade. The problem this time is infact BOTH SIDES and clearly nobody wants to work together to solve the problem and just sit and point the finger at someone else. What an utter embarrassment you people are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So funny to read these comments from the Fox News/MSNBC viewing crowd that have been duped into thinking everything wrong with this country is the fault of the evil other side. Our Federal Government has been in decline for decades as a result of being run by two failing political parties. It is what it is. Take the goggles of political bias and off and see the truth for what it is.

NP... How about reading the ACTUAL WORDING from Fitch's statement

Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process. These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population.

"Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process."

That's all on Republicans and their intransigence, and holding the government hostage

Continuing,

"These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population."

Tax cuts - all Republican. New spending initiatives - both Democrat and Republican. Limited progress on tackling social security and medicare - also due to Republican intransigence, unless you think screwing over the elderly and the disabled and being the only modern industrialized nation to do so is somehow a good thing.

In other words, those of Liz Cheney, “We’re electing idiots!”

I wouldn't characterize them all as idiots but the quality of people being put in front of us by the R and D parties certainly isn't what it used to be. Yet the knucklehead wing nuts will continue to assume all problems are caused by the other side.

Who are the dimits in the House on the left who compare to Marge Green and Lauren Boebert?

There are few, if any, as bizarre and extreme as those two noise makers. Their ridiculous antics have served only to diminish their voice and influence in congress. They aren't leaders and never will be. The decline in efficiency and effectiveness of our Federal Government is more so a result of poor performance of those in leadership positions. Our leaders of today seemingly prioritize loyalty to party ahead of their commitment to carry out the everyday functions of government in a manner that is in the best interests of all. The vast majority of our politicians have evolved into puppets of two political parties that have become too potent and too powerful while serving mostly to mask corruption and divide the people rather than providing a beneficial service in American politics. Trump's toxic influence on politics in America will be short lived. Our dire need for political party reform is only worsening with no fix in sight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So funny to read these comments from the Fox News/MSNBC viewing crowd that have been duped into thinking everything wrong with this country is the fault of the evil other side. Our Federal Government has been in decline for decades as a result of being run by two failing political parties. It is what it is. Take the goggles of political bias and off and see the truth for what it is.

This thread is a perfect illustration of the reasoning behind the downgrade. The problem this time is infact BOTH SIDES and clearly nobody wants to work together to solve the problem and just sit and point the finger at someone else. What an utter embarrassment you people are.

Oh please. When have the GOP negotiated in good faith on any issue in the recent past?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So funny to read these comments from the Fox News/MSNBC viewing crowd that have been duped into thinking everything wrong with this country is the fault of the evil other side. Our Federal Government has been in decline for decades as a result of being run by two failing political parties. It is what it is. Take the goggles of political bias and off and see the truth for what it is.

NP... How about reading the ACTUAL WORDING from Fitch's statement

Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process. These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population.

"Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process."

That's all on Republicans and their intransigence, and holding the government hostage

Continuing,

"These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population."

Tax cuts - all Republican. New spending initiatives - both Democrat and Republican. Limited progress on tackling social security and medicare - also due to Republican intransigence, unless you think screwing over the elderly and the disabled and being the only modern industrialized nation to do so is somehow a good thing.

In other words, those of Liz Cheney, “We’re electing idiots!”

I wouldn't characterize them all as idiots but the quality of people being put in front of us by the R and D parties certainly isn't what it used to be. Yet the knucklehead wing nuts will continue to assume all problems are caused by the other side.

Who are the dimits in the House on the left who compare to Marge Green and Lauren Boebert?

There are few, if any, as bizarre and extreme as those two noise makers. Their ridiculous antics have served only to diminish their voice and influence in congress. They aren't leaders and never will be. The decline in efficiency and effectiveness of our Federal Government is more so a result of poor performance of those in leadership positions. Our leaders of today seemingly prioritize loyalty to party ahead of their commitment to carry out the everyday functions of government in a manner that is in the best interests of all. The vast majority of our politicians have evolved into puppets of two political parties that have become too potent and too powerful while serving mostly to mask corruption and divide the people rather than providing a beneficial service in American politics. Trump's toxic influence on politics in America will be short lived. Our dire need for political party reform is only worsening with no fix in sight.

You are "both siding" something that isn't a "both sides" thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So funny to read these comments from the Fox News/MSNBC viewing crowd that have been duped into thinking everything wrong with this country is the fault of the evil other side. Our Federal Government has been in decline for decades as a result of being run by two failing political parties. It is what it is. Take the goggles of political bias and off and see the truth for what it is.

NP... How about reading the ACTUAL WORDING from Fitch's statement

Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process. These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population.

"Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process."

That's all on Republicans and their intransigence, and holding the government hostage

Continuing,

"These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population."

Tax cuts - all Republican. New spending initiatives - both Democrat and Republican. Limited progress on tackling social security and medicare - also due to Republican intransigence, unless you think screwing over the elderly and the disabled and being the only modern industrialized nation to do so is somehow a good thing.

In other words, those of Liz Cheney, “We’re electing idiots!”

I wouldn't characterize them all as idiots but the quality of people being put in front of us by the R and D parties certainly isn't what it used to be. Yet the knucklehead wing nuts will continue to assume all problems are caused by the other side.

Who are the dimits in the House on the left who compare to Marge Green and Lauren Boebert?

There are few, if any, as bizarre and extreme as those two noise makers. Their ridiculous antics have served only to diminish their voice and influence in congress. They aren't leaders and never will be. The decline in efficiency and effectiveness of our Federal Government is more so a result of poor performance of those in leadership positions. Our leaders of today seemingly prioritize loyalty to party ahead of their commitment to carry out the everyday functions of government in a manner that is in the best interests of all. The vast majority of our politicians have evolved into puppets of two political parties that have become too potent and too powerful while serving mostly to mask corruption and divide the people rather than providing a beneficial service in American politics. Trump's toxic influence on politics in America will be short lived. Our dire need for political party reform is only worsening with no fix in sight.

BoTh SiDeS.

In your first line you answered the PP’s question. On some level you’re aware that it’s not “two political parties that have become too potent,” it’s one whack job extremist party that’s causing 95% of the government-level problems in America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So funny to read these comments from the Fox News/MSNBC viewing crowd that have been duped into thinking everything wrong with this country is the fault of the evil other side. Our Federal Government has been in decline for decades as a result of being run by two failing political parties. It is what it is. Take the goggles of political bias and off and see the truth for what it is.

NP... How about reading the ACTUAL WORDING from Fitch's statement

Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process. These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population.

"Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process."

That's all on Republicans and their intransigence, and holding the government hostage

Continuing,

"These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population."

Tax cuts - all Republican. New spending initiatives - both Democrat and Republican. Limited progress on tackling social security and medicare - also due to Republican intransigence, unless you think screwing over the elderly and the disabled and being the only modern industrialized nation to do so is somehow a good thing.

In other words, those of Liz Cheney, “We’re electing idiots!”

I wouldn't characterize them all as idiots but the quality of people being put in front of us by the R and D parties certainly isn't what it used to be. Yet the knucklehead wing nuts will continue to assume all problems are caused by the other side.

Who are the dimits in the House on the left who compare to Marge Green and Lauren Boebert?

There are few, if any, as bizarre and extreme as those two noise makers. Their ridiculous antics have served only to diminish their voice and influence in congress. They aren't leaders and never will be. The decline in efficiency and effectiveness of our Federal Government is more so a result of poor performance of those in leadership positions. Our leaders of today seemingly prioritize loyalty to party ahead of their commitment to carry out the everyday functions of government in a manner that is in the best interests of all. The vast majority of our politicians have evolved into puppets of two political parties that have become too potent and too powerful while serving mostly to mask corruption and divide the people rather than providing a beneficial service in American politics. Trump's toxic influence on politics in America will be short lived. Our dire need for political party reform is only worsening with no fix in sight.

BoTh SiDeS.

In your first line you answered the PP’s question. On some level you’re aware that it’s not “two political parties that have become too potent,” it’s one whack job extremist party that’s causing 95% of the government-level problems in America.

Spending issues are a both side issue. It literately took both sides to pass it. If you to want to blame one side then I recommend shutting the government down and just paying the debt off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So funny to read these comments from the Fox News/MSNBC viewing crowd that have been duped into thinking everything wrong with this country is the fault of the evil other side. Our Federal Government has been in decline for decades as a result of being run by two failing political parties. It is what it is. Take the goggles of political bias and off and see the truth for what it is.

NP... How about reading the ACTUAL WORDING from Fitch's statement

Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process. These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population.

"Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process."

That's all on Republicans and their intransigence, and holding the government hostage

Continuing,

"These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population."

Tax cuts - all Republican. New spending initiatives - both Democrat and Republican. Limited progress on tackling social security and medicare - also due to Republican intransigence, unless you think screwing over the elderly and the disabled and being the only modern industrialized nation to do so is somehow a good thing.

In other words, those of Liz Cheney, “We’re electing idiots!”

I wouldn't characterize them all as idiots but the quality of people being put in front of us by the R and D parties certainly isn't what it used to be. Yet the knucklehead wing nuts will continue to assume all problems are caused by the other side.

Who are the dimits in the House on the left who compare to Marge Green and Lauren Boebert?

There are few, if any, as bizarre and extreme as those two noise makers. Their ridiculous antics have served only to diminish their voice and influence in congress. They aren't leaders and never will be. The decline in efficiency and effectiveness of our Federal Government is more so a result of poor performance of those in leadership positions. Our leaders of today seemingly prioritize loyalty to party ahead of their commitment to carry out the everyday functions of government in a manner that is in the best interests of all. The vast majority of our politicians have evolved into puppets of two political parties that have become too potent and too powerful while serving mostly to mask corruption and divide the people rather than providing a beneficial service in American politics. Trump's toxic influence on politics in America will be short lived. Our dire need for political party reform is only worsening with no fix in sight.

BoTh SiDeS.

In your first line you answered the PP’s question. On some level you’re aware that it’s not “two political parties that have become too potent,” it’s one whack job extremist party that’s causing 95% of the government-level problems in America.

Spending issues are a both side issue. It literately took both sides to pass it. If you to want to blame one side then I recommend shutting the government down and just paying the debt off.

Yet somehow, the Dems manage to leave the white house with a growing GDP, lower unemployment and things moving on the right track - Clinton Obama and Biden all inherited economic dumpster fires from their predecessors. I swear, if the Dems could control the government for 12-16 years, we would have the economics of this country where they should be. But leave it to the GOP to screw it up - Bush, Bush and Trump were horrible stewards of our economy. The numbers don't lie.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So funny to read these comments from the Fox News/MSNBC viewing crowd that have been duped into thinking everything wrong with this country is the fault of the evil other side. Our Federal Government has been in decline for decades as a result of being run by two failing political parties. It is what it is. Take the goggles of political bias and off and see the truth for what it is.

NP... How about reading the ACTUAL WORDING from Fitch's statement

Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process. These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population.

"Erosion of Governance: In Fitch's view, there has been a steady deterioration in standards of governance over the last 20 years, including on fiscal and debt matters, notwithstanding the June bipartisan agreement to suspend the debt limit until January 2025. The repeated debt-limit political standoffs and last-minute resolutions have eroded confidence in fiscal management. In addition, the government lacks a medium-term fiscal framework, unlike most peers, and has a complex budgeting process."

That's all on Republicans and their intransigence, and holding the government hostage

Continuing,

"These factors, along with several economic shocks as well as tax cuts and new spending initiatives, have contributed to successive debt increases over the last decade. Additionally, there has been only limited progress in tackling medium-term challenges related to rising social security and Medicare costs due to an aging population."

Tax cuts - all Republican. New spending initiatives - both Democrat and Republican. Limited progress on tackling social security and medicare - also due to Republican intransigence, unless you think screwing over the elderly and the disabled and being the only modern industrialized nation to do so is somehow a good thing.

In other words, those of Liz Cheney, “We’re electing idiots!”

I wouldn't characterize them all as idiots but the quality of people being put in front of us by the R and D parties certainly isn't what it used to be. Yet the knucklehead wing nuts will continue to assume all problems are caused by the other side.

Who are the dimits in the House on the left who compare to Marge Green and Lauren Boebert?

There are few, if any, as bizarre and extreme as those two noise makers. Their ridiculous antics have served only to diminish their voice and influence in congress. They aren't leaders and never will be. The decline in efficiency and effectiveness of our Federal Government is more so a result of poor performance of those in leadership positions. Our leaders of today seemingly prioritize loyalty to party ahead of their commitment to carry out the everyday functions of government in a manner that is in the best interests of all. The vast majority of our politicians have evolved into puppets of two political parties that have become too potent and too powerful while serving mostly to mask corruption and divide the people rather than providing a beneficial service in American politics. Trump's toxic influence on politics in America will be short lived. Our dire need for political party reform is only worsening with no fix in sight.

BoTh SiDeS.

In your first line you answered the PP’s question. On some level you’re aware that it’s not “two political parties that have become too potent,” it’s one whack job extremist party that’s causing 95% of the government-level problems in America.

Spending issues are a both side issue. It literately took both sides to pass it. If you to want to blame one side then I recommend shutting the government down and just paying the debt off.

Yet somehow, the Dems manage to leave the white house with a growing GDP, lower unemployment and things moving on the right track - Clinton Obama and Biden all inherited economic dumpster fires from their predecessors. I swear, if the Dems could control the government for 12-16 years, we would have the economics of this country where they should be. But leave it to the GOP to screw it up - Bush, Bush and Trump were horrible stewards of our economy. The numbers don't lie.

I'll quibble with this. HW Bush was a good steward and good skewered for actually raising taxes. The Republicans learned that lessons and have never done so since. Reagan wasn't a good steward and led to many scandals and the S&L and junk bond crisis due to deregulation on his watch. He got lucky because Volcker crushed inflation in the early 1980s and the economy (or really, the financial, real estate, services and capital owning sectors) benefited from lower interest rates.

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