There were articles documenting studies on this years ago. |
NP. Yeah, this doesn't add up for me -- the people who "did the best in law school" were the ones who have natural analytical ability; they already "think like a lawyer" and don't need to be taught. That doesn't run with any particular major. |
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I was Poli sci ant a top 10 undergrad but didn’t have the grades (3.6 GPA) and LSAT for tippy top law schools.
Ended up transferring after 1st year to a top 5 law school. Grades from law school didn’t matter after that. I got numerous offers to big law firms. I’m a partner at a top 3 firm (based on PPP)…. But - I still wish I got that JD/MBA….and left law all together…. |
How do you transfer after one year? Don’t you have to apply in September? |
Why the need for an undergraduate degree? Couldn't people just start law school straight out of high school? |
Artificial barriers to prop up wages. |
Probably because they take lots of exams in undergrad so they are better prepared to take law school exams. I was a history major and avoided classes with lots of exams in lieu of writing lots of papers because writing was my strength. I think that worked against me in law school. But of course being a good writer is crucial for being a lawyer so I don’t regret it, |
When I went, which was about 20 years ago, technically you didn't need an undergrad degree. There was one student in our class who had only finished 2 or 3 years of college and he was admitted. But he struggled something fierce, both academically and socially, despite being super smart; so I wondered whether or not my law school would do that again given how unsuccessful he was. I don't think he graduated with us -- not sure if he dropped out or just needed another year to finish or what? |
How many times do you recommend taking lsat and when to start prepping |
We are all lawyers in my family too. When my dad went, he did not need a college degrer. He went straight to law school. CA still has that...everyone knows about Kim K. OP, as everyone has written, undergrad majors do not matter for law school.Top grades and LSATs are paramount. People should go to the highest ranked law school that accepts them. If someone does go to a lower ranked law school and dreams of a top firm, I did see it happen in undesirable cities such as Cleveland (big legal market) if they were Editor in Chief of the law review and/or were accounting or engineering majors. |
That's not quite what CA "has." CA allows you to do what Lincoln did back in the day -- "read for the law." Which is basically apprenticing. You don't need to have attended law school to take the bar exam if you work under a practicing attorney for a min of 18 hours per week for four years. You do have to pass what is referred to as the "baby bar exam" while you apprentice, which tests subjects taught the first year of law school (this is the test Kim K took -- and initially failed, 3x; she will likely never pass the real bar). The practical result of this program is that a lot of paralegals take the CA bar exam and fail it. It's one of the reasons there is a high bar exam failure rate in CA (although a colleague of mine who went to Stanford Law also failed the bar). |
Why? To be a miserable patent lawyer? |
What kind of lawyer is not miserable? |
Back then transfer app we’re done after 1st semester grades (maybe spring)? I didn’t hear until summer…. |
It runs with philosophy to some extent. |