So it’s 22% tips now

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Anonymous wrote:just do 15 and be done with it. 0 for carry outs. i refuse to buy into this crazy tip-sh*t culture we are in

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Ridiculous! When I'm prompted I hit no tip. I still consider 15% decent and 20% good. If they want more then that, they need a better job. Once the employers have a hard time with staffing they will raise wages. It's called capitalism.

No, no. You stay home and have the place close. We don't need as many restaurants as we have.
I'd rather have few with good food and good pay, than so many with shitty food, service and workers. Because you keep going and keeping them alive, the workers suffer.

No, no, no! If that happens, the few restaurants will jack up their prices and cut wages so you end up tipping 50%. 'Mom and Pop' are gangsters! We need competition to keep them in check. The right thing to do is for people to grow a pair and only tip what they think is 'normal' or none at all. That should be normalized.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing. A bunch of rich white professional and allegedly liberal women who purport to care complaining about leaving a few extra pennies as a tip.

The hypocrisy of DCUM is over the top.

It's not hypocritical in the slightest. It's demanding that employers pay their people well and do their jobs. Why is the restaurant industry exempt from every basic business practice that the rest of the corporate world employs? I bet you demand that Amazon pay living wages. What would you say if Amazon required a 20% tip for all delivery people? You'd think that was crazy, right? Same thing. Stop being daft.

Oh, I see, you’re putting the squeeze on the workers to get at their employers. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

DP. I'm glad you see it! This is the right time too. There's still a shortage of employees, which gives them the opportunity to 'put the squeeze' on their employer. If not, they can quit and find another job, can't they?

"If you don't like it, leave" is absolutely A+ friend-of-the-worker talk.

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Anonymous wrote:Amazing. A bunch of rich white professional and allegedly liberal women who purport to care complaining about leaving a few extra pennies as a tip.

The hypocrisy of DCUM is over the top.

It's not hypocritical in the slightest. It's demanding that employers pay their people well and do their jobs. Why is the restaurant industry exempt from every basic business practice that the rest of the corporate world employs? I bet you demand that Amazon pay living wages. What would you say if Amazon required a 20% tip for all delivery people? You'd think that was crazy, right? Same thing. Stop being daft.

Oh, I see, you’re putting the squeeze on the workers to get at their employers. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

DP. I'm glad you see it! This is the right time too. There's still a shortage of employees, which gives them the opportunity to 'put the squeeze' on their employer. If not, they can quit and find another job, can't they?

"If you don't like it, leave" is absolutely A+ friend-of-the-worker talk.

Not as bad as "Your HHI is so high you should tip 30%"

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i have solved my inflation problem by not tipping

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Anonymous wrote:What I hate the most is this strategy of shaming you or making it so awkward and uncomfortable that you are "forced" to tip higher amount. I can deal with it now but it took some getting used to.

No one is shaming you to tip more other than posters on an anonymous forum, though. A screen is asking you to tip after a POS transaction at a coffee shop or whatever. No human is going to say anything to you in the moment about your lack of tip. So click "no tip" and move on! The awkwardness and shame is in your head!

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Anonymous wrote:What I hate the most is this strategy of shaming you or making it so awkward and uncomfortable that you are "forced" to tip higher amount. I can deal with it now but it took some getting used to.

No one is shaming you to tip more other than posters on an anonymous forum, though. A screen is asking you to tip after a POS transaction at a coffee shop or whatever. No human is going to say anything to you in the moment about your lack of tip. So click "no tip" and move on! The awkwardness and shame is in your head!

That's what I do now. But the awkwardness is real. And it's in human nature to avoid situations like that which is exactly why they are doing it.

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Anonymous wrote:Do you know why I tip so well? Because every time I see a minimally paid service worker in this area I wonder where they live, how far they had to commute, and how they can afford nutritious food for themselves, much less a family if that is their situation. I have so much .... makes me feel good. The landlords soaking people for every dime make me sick, not the restaurants pushing for tips for their employees.

You can give money to other low-paid workers and unemployed people too.

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I’m 50 and I remember when 15% was standard, 18% for really good service. 20% was basically unheard of unless the service was crazy good. That was in the 80s. So these things do creep up. I’m trying to stick at 20% but I guess I’ll end up like one of those old ladies of my youth that thought a 10% tip was generally.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m 50 and I remember when 15% was standard, 18% for really good service. 20% was basically unheard of unless the service was crazy good. That was in the 80s. So these things do creep up. I’m trying to stick at 20% but I guess I’ll end up like one of those old ladies of my youth that thought a 10% tip was generally.

good things never last

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We are going to Europe and am looking forward to not tipping as it keeps my budget predicable

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Anonymous wrote:I agree.. it's just a way for employers to pass on the burden of fair wages to the customer while keeping menu prices low. I would love for business owners to raise prices , and suggest only optional minimum tips.

Would help control the inflation, as more people stop dining out due to sticker shock and servers start finding more lucrative jobs.

Good in the long run, kind of same as airlines being forced to include all taxes in the final displayed fare

Nope. A business will charge as much as they can get away with regardless of other factors. Don't kid yourself. Restaurant owners WILL raise prices regardless of how much you tip. They are in it to make maximum profit. Period. The rest of it - employee satisfaction, community engagement, hiring locals, etc. - is just BS. A major reason for the inflation is business owners' greed. They want to maximize profit. I love that as an investor, but let's understand the reality.

Fair enough! I love these threads, raising awareness amongst folks with higher HHI that "can tip" but on principle "don't" or " tip lower than 22% for select situations". There are multiple ways to be charitable (and feel good about yourself) tipping should not be one of them. I hope some of these conversations slowly bring real mindset change amongst affluent that forces the service industry to evolve to more fair practices for it's employees and customers.

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Nope. 20%. I reject that crap.

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My HHI last year was 110k (2 incomes, three people) Does that mean I can tip less, according to “but you can afford it” logic?

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In Montgomery county, if a waiter does not get enough tips to earn minimum wage, the business has to make up for it. So I refuse to tip because the owners will have to make up the difference.

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I'm already eating out way less because I'm sick of the out of control tipping culture. Let them close.