Shooting near Catholic University

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds fishy.

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hard disagree. Did you even read the article?? In town from Kentucky with mom and brother to attend teacher's conference . . walking to metro at 8am to go to conference after watching fireworks the day before with mom and brother. This is an unbelievably horrific crime. DC better get its act together and start holding these criminals to account. No more catch and release, please. No more categorizing "youth" offenders that are in their 20s.

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I have lived in DC for awhile but admittedly don’t know that area too well. I have gotten lost or taken the ‘long way’ to a destination many times in my travels. This guy was a tourist so he wouldn’t necessarily know the most direct route to a location or maybe took a few wrong turns.

Years ago, I was in Budapest and had gone on a city tour. At the end of the tour, my friend, another American who was on the tour and I were looking for a restaurant and a guy asked us if we needed help. We naively followed him off the main street onto a side street. Luckily, I realized what was happening and yelled to my friend. We ran as fast as we could back to the main street. The American we had just met did not run and was pick pocketed but luckily was not injured. I could see a scenario like that happening. The young man is looking for the metro; the robber/gunman offers to show him how to get to the metro and leads him onto the campus and off of busy Michigan Ave with the intention of robbing him, which then turns into a senseless murder.

I was thinking it might be something like this as well. I live a few blocks from there and am frequently approached asking for directions to the metro. The entrance is fairly well hidden.

That could make sense. Not sure what the pp was talking about with the sides of the street. He would have had to cross Michigan or Monroe to get from Trinity to the metro, so this was not out of the way.

From Trinity you can stay on the south side of Michigan and it’s a straight shot to the metro - cross Monroe, pass behind Starbucks, cross 7th, and pass by the daycare into the arts walk plaza and metro entrance. Or you can turn onto Monroe and enter the arts walk at Monroe by Tropical Smoothie and pass through the arts walk to the metro entrance.

He was on the north side of Michigan, the CUA side of the street. It’ll still get you to the metro and in fact you can cut through campus, cross John McCormack and approach the metro from the north, but it’s the less direct route from Trinity.

So you can get to the metro crossing Michigan, but you don’t have to, and it is out of the way, though not by much. I don’t know if a tourist would be aware. He may have also just wanted to walk on the north side to get a closer look at the basilica or campus architecture.

You actually can’t currently cut through campus except in a very roundabout way because of campus construction. And that side of Michigan has a large blockade that makes it look like the sidewalk is closed. I could easily see a tourist being confused and asking for help.

From the photos it’s clear the robber was at the Metro. The red Crocs are a big visual.

Shot by a man wearing Crocs.

Per the family, they had taken metro the night before to the fireworks. He was not unfamiliar with the route as is.

[Anonymous]

I go for a walk there almost every day. Occasionally I'm approached by people who aren't homeless but ask for money, saying that they need to buy a ticket to Baltimore or something. They haven't been aggressive but you never know. You can tell they aren't local and might be coming here hoping that there are more Catholics who'd be giving them money.

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds fishy.

+1

hard disagree. Did you even read the article?? In town from Kentucky with mom and brother to attend teacher's conference . . walking to metro at 8am to go to conference after watching fireworks the day before with mom and brother. This is an unbelievably horrific crime. DC better get its act together and start holding these criminals to account. No more catch and release, please. No more categorizing "youth" offenders that are in their 20s.

+1

I have lived in DC for awhile but admittedly don’t know that area too well. I have gotten lost or taken the ‘long way’ to a destination many times in my travels. This guy was a tourist so he wouldn’t necessarily know the most direct route to a location or maybe took a few wrong turns.

Years ago, I was in Budapest and had gone on a city tour. At the end of the tour, my friend, another American who was on the tour and I were looking for a restaurant and a guy asked us if we needed help. We naively followed him off the main street onto a side street. Luckily, I realized what was happening and yelled to my friend. We ran as fast as we could back to the main street. The American we had just met did not run and was pick pocketed but luckily was not injured. I could see a scenario like that happening. The young man is looking for the metro; the robber/gunman offers to show him how to get to the metro and leads him onto the campus and off of busy Michigan Ave with the intention of robbing him, which then turns into a senseless murder.

His mother said the family had stayed at Trinity on prior visits to DC. They had taken metro to see the fireworks the night before. He was not unfamiliar with the route. Something else happened.

Yes but there was always a diagonal cut-through to metro from the basilica through campus. That route is now blocked by construction - which one notices just beyond the area of the plaza where he was shot. He was either turned around or maybe lured there somehow. Hopefully video surveillance shows his path and the killer’s arrival in the area, and that gives a clue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds fishy.

+1

hard disagree. Did you even read the article?? In town from Kentucky with mom and brother to attend teacher's conference . . walking to metro at 8am to go to conference after watching fireworks the day before with mom and brother. This is an unbelievably horrific crime. DC better get its act together and start holding these criminals to account. No more catch and release, please. No more categorizing "youth" offenders that are in their 20s.

+1

I have lived in DC for awhile but admittedly don’t know that area too well. I have gotten lost or taken the ‘long way’ to a destination many times in my travels. This guy was a tourist so he wouldn’t necessarily know the most direct route to a location or maybe took a few wrong turns.

Years ago, I was in Budapest and had gone on a city tour. At the end of the tour, my friend, another American who was on the tour and I were looking for a restaurant and a guy asked us if we needed help. We naively followed him off the main street onto a side street. Luckily, I realized what was happening and yelled to my friend. We ran as fast as we could back to the main street. The American we had just met did not run and was pick pocketed but luckily was not injured. I could see a scenario like that happening. The young man is looking for the metro; the robber/gunman offers to show him how to get to the metro and leads him onto the campus and off of busy Michigan Ave with the intention of robbing him, which then turns into a senseless murder.

His mother said the family had stayed at Trinity on prior visits to DC. They had taken metro to see the fireworks the night before. He was not unfamiliar with the route. Something else happened.

Yes but there was always a diagonal cut-through to metro from the basilica through campus. That route is now blocked by construction - which one notices just beyond the area of the plaza where he was shot. He was either turned around or maybe lured there somehow. Hopefully video surveillance shows his path and the killer’s arrival in the area, and that gives a clue.

The simplest explanation is that the killer showed the gun and directed the victim away from the metro to rob him. All of the speculation in this thread is creepy and disrespectful to the victim.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds fishy.

+1

hard disagree. Did you even read the article?? In town from Kentucky with mom and brother to attend teacher's conference . . walking to metro at 8am to go to conference after watching fireworks the day before with mom and brother. This is an unbelievably horrific crime. DC better get its act together and start holding these criminals to account. No more catch and release, please. No more categorizing "youth" offenders that are in their 20s.

+1

I have lived in DC for awhile but admittedly don’t know that area too well. I have gotten lost or taken the ‘long way’ to a destination many times in my travels. This guy was a tourist so he wouldn’t necessarily know the most direct route to a location or maybe took a few wrong turns.

Years ago, I was in Budapest and had gone on a city tour. At the end of the tour, my friend, another American who was on the tour and I were looking for a restaurant and a guy asked us if we needed help. We naively followed him off the main street onto a side street. Luckily, I realized what was happening and yelled to my friend. We ran as fast as we could back to the main street. The American we had just met did not run and was pick pocketed but luckily was not injured. I could see a scenario like that happening. The young man is looking for the metro; the robber/gunman offers to show him how to get to the metro and leads him onto the campus and off of busy Michigan Ave with the intention of robbing him, which then turns into a senseless murder.

His mother said the family had stayed at Trinity on prior visits to DC. They had taken metro to see the fireworks the night before. He was not unfamiliar with the route. Something else happened.

Yes but there was always a diagonal cut-through to metro from the basilica through campus. That route is now blocked by construction - which one notices just beyond the area of the plaza where he was shot. He was either turned around or maybe lured there somehow. Hopefully video surveillance shows his path and the killer’s arrival in the area, and that gives a clue.

The simplest explanation is that the killer showed the gun and directed the victim away from the metro to rob him. All of the speculation in this thread is creepy and disrespectful to the victim.

It seems like a rather reckless statement from police that the shooter was known to the victim, if based solely on a silent video.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds fishy.

+1

hard disagree. Did you even read the article?? In town from Kentucky with mom and brother to attend teacher's conference . . walking to metro at 8am to go to conference after watching fireworks the day before with mom and brother. This is an unbelievably horrific crime. DC better get its act together and start holding these criminals to account. No more catch and release, please. No more categorizing "youth" offenders that are in their 20s.

+1

I have lived in DC for awhile but admittedly don’t know that area too well. I have gotten lost or taken the ‘long way’ to a destination many times in my travels. This guy was a tourist so he wouldn’t necessarily know the most direct route to a location or maybe took a few wrong turns.

Years ago, I was in Budapest and had gone on a city tour. At the end of the tour, my friend, another American who was on the tour and I were looking for a restaurant and a guy asked us if we needed help. We naively followed him off the main street onto a side street. Luckily, I realized what was happening and yelled to my friend. We ran as fast as we could back to the main street. The American we had just met did not run and was pick pocketed but luckily was not injured. I could see a scenario like that happening. The young man is looking for the metro; the robber/gunman offers to show him how to get to the metro and leads him onto the campus and off of busy Michigan Ave with the intention of robbing him, which then turns into a senseless murder.

His mother said the family had stayed at Trinity on prior visits to DC. They had taken metro to see the fireworks the night before. He was not unfamiliar with the route. Something else happened.

Yes but there was always a diagonal cut-through to metro from the basilica through campus. That route is now blocked by construction - which one notices just beyond the area of the plaza where he was shot. He was either turned around or maybe lured there somehow. Hopefully video surveillance shows his path and the killer’s arrival in the area, and that gives a clue.

The simplest explanation is that the killer showed the gun and directed the victim away from the metro to rob him. All of the speculation in this thread is creepy and disrespectful to the victim.

It seems like a rather reckless statement from police that the shooter was known to the victim, if based solely on a silent video.

Your city leaders don't want tourists to know that they could get murdered by a stranger in broad daylight in DC.

[Anonymous]

We don't know what they saw in the video. The victim's mother said that he left around 7:45 am. It takes 15 min to walk to Catholic from Trinity and the shooting happened at 8:22 am. If he was already familiar with the area, it's unlikely he got lost.

[Anonymous]

Im not saying this is what happened, but sometimes robbers pretend they want to hook up as a ruse to rob men.

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Anonymous wrote:MPD released photos of the suspect: https://twitter.com/allisonpapson/status/1677427516649119744?s=46

My bet is gay hookup and not robbery

Do gay hookups involve being murdered?

Come on, stop it.

Well, hookups between strangers of all types can involve murder. See Aileen Wuornos, Jeffrey Dahmer, Jack the Ripper, Philip Markoff (Craigs List killer). NOT saying that's what happened here, though, as no information has been released to indicate that this was the case.

I don’t even see what the point of this speculation is unless it’s to try to make yourself feel better because you would never engage a stranger hookup? DC is full of random violence right now. You could get carjacked and shot just as much as anyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MPD released photos of the suspect: https://twitter.com/allisonpapson/status/1677427516649119744?s=46

My bet is gay hookup and not robbery

Do gay hookups involve being murdered?

Come on, stop it.

Well, hookups between strangers of all types can involve murder. See Aileen Wuornos, Jeffrey Dahmer, Jack the Ripper, Philip Markoff (Craigs List killer). NOT saying that's what happened here, though, as no information has been released to indicate that this was the case.

I don’t even see what the point of this speculation is unless it’s to try to make yourself feel better because you would never engage a stranger hookup? DC is full of random violence right now. You could get carjacked and shot just as much as anyone else.

Are you OK? That's why the PP specifically said, "NOT saying that's what happened here, though, as no information has been released to indicate that this was the case."

[Anonymous]

https://www.nbcwashington.com/breaking-news/arrest-made-in-killing-of-kentucky-teacher-at-catholic-university-police-say/3382658/

Good. Except it appears the suspect has been arrested before (twice) for gun-related offenses. This was preventable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nbcwashington.com/breaking-news/arrest-made-in-killing-of-kentucky-teacher-at-catholic-university-police-say/3382658/

Good. Except it appears the suspect has been arrested before (twice) for gun-related offenses. This was preventable.

This is exactly why Democrats won’t reduce the violence. All talk, and no effective action. Thoughts and prayers.

[Anonymous]

22 y/o Jaime Maceo charged with the murder of Kentucky teacher Maxwell Emerson last week on the Catholic University campus

1. Jaime Maceo was arrested 5/22/22 for assault with a ghost gun in NW DC. Maceo shot during exchange of gunfire w/neighbor.

2. Released by Superior Court judge 6/21/22 until trial scheduled 4/3/23.

3. Meantime on 8/27/22 Maceo was charged with threats to do bodily harm to a 7-11 clerk in NW DC.

4. Convicted in bench trial 3/2/23 and sentenced to 120 days with jail time suspended in lieu of 1 year probation

5. Original trial from step 2 pushed back to 7/10/23.

4. Case dismissed 6/30/23.

5. Max Emerson murdered 7/5/23

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Anonymous wrote:It's gonna be gay sex. Watch.

I’m gonna go with you on this one.

He still got murdered - not sure why it would matter that they had sex???

+1, but people clearly are searching for ways to assure themselves this wouldn’t happen to them.

And that’s ok, if learning this information then changes the course of future risky ENTIRELY ELECTIVE behavior.

People like you are always quick to scream “victim blaming!” and assume this is an air-tight conversation ender. Also assumed is that the other person has no compassion for the victim.

Wrong. I can hold two thoughts in my head! The first is that I feel terrible for this poor tourist from Kentucky. I may also come to believe it’s a bad idea to go on Grindr and arrange a meeting with a complete stranger and agree to pay cash because the stranger doesn’t have Venmo. For example.

The arrested suspect has gun priors, this was not a Grindr hookup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:22 y/o Jaime Maceo charged with the murder of Kentucky teacher Maxwell Emerson last week on the Catholic University campus

1. Jaime Maceo was arrested 5/22/22 for assault with a ghost gun in NW DC. Maceo shot during exchange of gunfire w/neighbor.

2. Released by Superior Court judge 6/21/22 until trial scheduled 4/3/23.

3. Meantime on 8/27/22 Maceo was charged with threats to do bodily harm to a 7-11 clerk in NW DC.

4. Convicted in bench trial 3/2/23 and sentenced to 120 days with jail time suspended in lieu of 1 year probation

5. Original trial from step 2 pushed back to 7/10/23.

4. Case dismissed 6/30/23.

5. Max Emerson murdered 7/5/23

He would have been ON TRIAL starting yesterday for a prior shooting victim (that one lived) had USAO not no papered it/declined to prosecute at the last minute, as they do in 67% of arrests. Had this guy with a gun PRIOR been held pending trial on 7/10/23 and had the case gone forward he would not have been on the street and the poor tourist teacher WOULD BE ALIVE.

Graves has a lower prosecution rate than any other big city. He is full of excuses but even "kids are kids" Schwab has a no paper rate of 26% vs the astronomical 67% rate of federally appointed Graves. Schwab has the exact same lab, MPD and other challenges. Graves may have the lowest prosecution rate in the country and when they do go forward they drastically plead down cases putting dangerous people back on the street. Congress really needs to exercise oversight over DOJ and their USAO for DC. If it's a resource issue, fix it. There needs to be a real cards on the table about what is really at play. Is it ideological? https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/04/politics/black-prosecutors-dc-gun-cases/index.html

Another startling example of how the USAO does business https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/armed-man-who-attacked-dc-pub-owner-in-front-of-4-year-old-boy-offered-plea-deal-to-victims-dismay/3382018/