Shooting near Catholic University

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Anonymous wrote:What area in DC never had any robberies or shootings?

My neighborhood. Glover Park. Way back against the woods. The bad guys are too lazy to go back there. There's no retail.

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Those are good photos. I suspect he’ll be identified and picked up soon.

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds fishy.

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hard disagree. Did you even read the article?? In town from Kentucky with mom and brother to attend teacher's conference . . walking to metro at 8am to go to conference after watching fireworks the day before with mom and brother. This is an unbelievably horrific crime. DC better get its act together and start holding these criminals to account. No more catch and release, please. No more categorizing "youth" offenders that are in their 20s.

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I have lived in DC for awhile but admittedly don’t know that area too well. I have gotten lost or taken the ‘long way’ to a destination many times in my travels. This guy was a tourist so he wouldn’t necessarily know the most direct route to a location or maybe took a few wrong turns.

I have NEVER felt unsafe in that neighborhood. That being said, I was running early in the morning one time (5am?) and definitely saw a gay sex situation that was very odd.

PP and I never said it seems like an unsafe area. Quite frankly I know nothing about that neighborhood of the city. I was pointing out that tourists get lost all the time or take wrong turns. People were saying this route seems unusual to get to the metro.

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Anonymous wrote:What area in DC never had any robberies or shootings?

My neighborhood. Glover Park. Way back against the woods. The bad guys are too lazy to go back there. There's no retail.

My neighborhood doesn’t have any retail around either. People still get shot or have their dogs stolen or get mugged.

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Anonymous wrote:It's gonna be gay sex. Watch.

I’m gonna go with you on this one.

He still got murdered - not sure why it would matter that they had sex???

+1, but people clearly are searching for ways to assure themselves this wouldn’t happen to them.

I assume people have guns and proceed accordingly.

DP

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Anonymous wrote:It's gonna be gay sex. Watch.

I’m gonna go with you on this one.

He still got murdered - not sure why it would matter that they had sex???

+1, but people clearly are searching for ways to assure themselves this wouldn’t happen to them.

And that’s ok, if learning this information then changes the course of future risky ENTIRELY ELECTIVE behavior.

People like you are always quick to scream “victim blaming!” and assume this is an air-tight conversation ender. Also assumed is that the other person has no compassion for the victim.

Wrong. I can hold two thoughts in my head! The first is that I feel terrible for this poor tourist from Kentucky. I may also come to believe it’s a bad idea to go on Grindr and arrange a meeting with a complete stranger and agree to pay cash because the stranger doesn’t have Venmo. For example.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.catholicnewsagency.com/amp/news/254757/after-catholic-university-shooting-death-family-disputes-dc-police-statements

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds fishy.

+1

hard disagree. Did you even read the article?? In town from Kentucky with mom and brother to attend teacher's conference . . walking to metro at 8am to go to conference after watching fireworks the day before with mom and brother. This is an unbelievably horrific crime. DC better get its act together and start holding these criminals to account. No more catch and release, please. No more categorizing "youth" offenders that are in their 20s.

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I have lived in DC for awhile but admittedly don’t know that area too well. I have gotten lost or taken the ‘long way’ to a destination many times in my travels. This guy was a tourist so he wouldn’t necessarily know the most direct route to a location or maybe took a few wrong turns.

Years ago, I was in Budapest and had gone on a city tour. At the end of the tour, my friend, another American who was on the tour and I were looking for a restaurant and a guy asked us if we needed help. We naively followed him off the main street onto a side street. Luckily, I realized what was happening and yelled to my friend. We ran as fast as we could back to the main street. The American we had just met did not run and was pick pocketed but luckily was not injured. I could see a scenario like that happening. The young man is looking for the metro; the robber/gunman offers to show him how to get to the metro and leads him onto the campus and off of busy Michigan Ave with the intention of robbing him, which then turns into a senseless murder.

I was thinking it might be something like this as well. I live a few blocks from there and am frequently approached asking for directions to the metro. The entrance is fairly well hidden.

That could make sense. Not sure what the pp was talking about with the sides of the street. He would have had to cross Michigan or Monroe to get from Trinity to the metro, so this was not out of the way.

From Trinity you can stay on the south side of Michigan and it’s a straight shot to the metro - cross Monroe, pass behind Starbucks, cross 7th, and pass by the daycare into the arts walk plaza and metro entrance. Or you can turn onto Monroe and enter the arts walk at Monroe by Tropical Smoothie and pass through the arts walk to the metro entrance.

He was on the north side of Michigan, the CUA side of the street. It’ll still get you to the metro and in fact you can cut through campus, cross John McCormack and approach the metro from the north, but it’s the less direct route from Trinity.

So you can get to the metro crossing Michigan, but you don’t have to, and it is out of the way, though not by much. I don’t know if a tourist would be aware. He may have also just wanted to walk on the north side to get a closer look at the basilica or campus architecture.

You actually can’t currently cut through campus except in a very roundabout way because of campus construction. And that side of Michigan has a large blockade that makes it look like the sidewalk is closed. I could easily see a tourist being confused and asking for help.

From the photos it’s clear the robber was at the Metro. The red Crocs are a big visual.

Shot by a man wearing Crocs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.catholicnewsagency.com/amp/news/254757/after-catholic-university-shooting-death-family-disputes-dc-police-statements

We don't know yet, but a guess is:
--It wasn't a prearranged meeting bc he was on his way to a conference; he was in town with his family, who likely would have known around what time he left his room to go to the conference; and the conference started at a certain time.
--Confronted on his way to the metro and then robbed. Cell phone and belongings taken.
--Even though cell phone taken, hopefully they can get some phone/app records ASAP to see if there were any communications w this individual.
-- From this article, it sounds like police are backing away from stating they knew each other. I don't know that you could tell this from silent video alone, given the theory that he could have been confronted and threatened on the way to the conference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those are good photos. I suspect he’ll be identified and picked up soon.

+1 Hope he’s terrified. May he rot in jail. Piece of s**t.

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Anonymous wrote:It's gonna be gay sex. Watch.

I’m gonna go with you on this one.

He still got murdered - not sure why it would matter that they had sex???

+1, but people clearly are searching for ways to assure themselves this wouldn’t happen to them.

And that’s ok, if learning this information then changes the course of future risky ENTIRELY ELECTIVE behavior.

People like you are always quick to scream “victim blaming!” and assume this is an air-tight conversation ender. Also assumed is that the other person has no compassion for the victim.

Wrong. I can hold two thoughts in my head! The first is that I feel terrible for this poor tourist from Kentucky. I may also come to believe it’s a bad idea to go on Grindr and arrange a meeting with a complete stranger and agree to pay cash because the stranger doesn’t have Venmo. For example.

The fact that you even feel the psychic need to make up this tale indicates that you desperately want to reassure yourself that random crime can’t happen to you.

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Anonymous wrote:What area in DC never had any robberies or shootings?

My neighborhood. Glover Park. Way back against the woods. The bad guys are too lazy to go back there. There's no retail.

My neighborhood doesn’t have any retail around either. People still get shot or have their dogs stolen or get mugged.

Well, that hasn't happened in GP. Sorry about your situation.

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Ugh this breaks my heart from the linked article upthread. Moments before the alleged robbery, his mother said that Emerson sent her a Snapchat message: “Help. Bring ribbed At cub point." She quickly knew he meant being robbed at gun point. Terror typing. Last words will wreck this poor mother, father, and his twin brother.

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Anonymous wrote:It's gonna be gay sex. Watch.

I’m gonna go with you on this one.

He still got murdered - not sure why it would matter that they had sex???

+1, but people clearly are searching for ways to assure themselves this wouldn’t happen to them.

And that’s ok, if learning this information then changes the course of future risky ENTIRELY ELECTIVE behavior.

People like you are always quick to scream “victim blaming!” and assume this is an air-tight conversation ender. Also assumed is that the other person has no compassion for the victim.

Wrong. I can hold two thoughts in my head! The first is that I feel terrible for this poor tourist from Kentucky. I may also come to believe it’s a bad idea to go on Grindr and arrange a meeting with a complete stranger and agree to pay cash because the stranger doesn’t have Venmo. For example.

The fact that you even feel the psychic need to make up this tale indicates that you desperately want to reassure yourself that random crime can’t happen to you.

PP. The kind of crime I described will never, ever happen to me. That’s correct. It is however happening a lot in NYC and also in my hometown.

I’m sorry you’re upset that I took the time to type out this plausible scenario, which happens a lot but typically doesn’t end in death. There have been several cases like this in DC over the past 15 years.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sounds fishy.

+1

hard disagree. Did you even read the article?? In town from Kentucky with mom and brother to attend teacher's conference . . walking to metro at 8am to go to conference after watching fireworks the day before with mom and brother. This is an unbelievably horrific crime. DC better get its act together and start holding these criminals to account. No more catch and release, please. No more categorizing "youth" offenders that are in their 20s.

+1

I have lived in DC for awhile but admittedly don’t know that area too well. I have gotten lost or taken the ‘long way’ to a destination many times in my travels. This guy was a tourist so he wouldn’t necessarily know the most direct route to a location or maybe took a few wrong turns.

Years ago, I was in Budapest and had gone on a city tour. At the end of the tour, my friend, another American who was on the tour and I were looking for a restaurant and a guy asked us if we needed help. We naively followed him off the main street onto a side street. Luckily, I realized what was happening and yelled to my friend. We ran as fast as we could back to the main street. The American we had just met did not run and was pick pocketed but luckily was not injured. I could see a scenario like that happening. The young man is looking for the metro; the robber/gunman offers to show him how to get to the metro and leads him onto the campus and off of busy Michigan Ave with the intention of robbing him, which then turns into a senseless murder.

His mother said the family had stayed at Trinity on prior visits to DC. They had taken metro to see the fireworks the night before. He was not unfamiliar with the route. Something else happened.