One thing you believe that nobody else does

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Being hungry all the time or everyday to stay “thin” and believing it is “willpower” is worse for your overall health than being overweight.

Counterpoint. It is entirely normal to actually be hungry for more than five minutes. Random snacking to make that stop all the time is a bad idea. It’s called planning what you are going to eat and when.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That research will eventually prove that calories in, calories out is nowhere near the full story.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Being hungry all the time or everyday to stay “thin” and believing it is “willpower” is worse for your overall health than being overweight.

I don't think many people understand what it is to actually feel physically hungry.

It is NOT the same as not feeling full. I think way too many people think they're hungry, when in fact they're just not full.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That the key to easy weight maintenance is only eating REAL food. No to artificial sweeteners, low fat products made with xanthan gum, etc. But YES to butter, bacon, whole milk alongside vegetables, lean meat, whole grains.

Kind of on the theme of supporting the bolded -- I am not anti-carb at all, but my nurse mom always said my high cholesterol had more to do with overeating carbs than animal protein.

Why would you add "nurse mom"? Are you implying that all nurses are experts in nutrition just because they work in hospitals? Maybe if you said my cardiologist mom you'd have a stronger statement.

A medical professional of any type has more access to knowledge and information. Chill PP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That the key to easy weight maintenance is only eating REAL food. No to artificial sweeteners, low fat products made with xanthan gum, etc. But YES to butter, bacon, whole milk alongside vegetables, lean meat, whole grains.

Kind of on the theme of supporting the bolded -- I am not anti-carb at all, but my nurse mom always said my high cholesterol had more to do with overeating carbs than animal protein.

Why would you add "nurse mom"? Are you implying that all nurses are experts in nutrition just because they work in hospitals? Maybe if you said my cardiologist mom you'd have a stronger statement.

A medical professional of any type has more access to knowledge and information. Chill PP.

I think most medical professionals know Jack about proper eating.

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need nearly as much protein to be healthy and strong as many people think you do.

Agree. Everyone has fallen for the protein overhype.

Oh this is so true! I sent this to my friend who was crowd sourcing best protein bars.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/12/well/eat/protein-bars.html

Did you actually read the article? The moral is check the label not that protein is overhyped.

I’m pro protein and pro heavy weights and a woman. I believe most middle aged women aren’t doing enough of either (especially those who in this thread).

Yes, I read it and these were my main takeaways:

You’d be hard-pressed to find an American who actually needs more protein, though, said Eric Rimm, a professor of epidemiology and nutrition at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. Most meat eaters get far more than the recommended daily dose of protein (which is about 0.4 grams per pound of body weight). And those who don’t eat meat can get enough protein from plant sources like tofu, nuts and legumes.

You also might consider opting for a different snack that’s just as portable and nutritious, Dr. Rimm said, like grapes, a banana, an apple or yogurt with berries. Dr. Nestle suggested a handful of nuts and Mr. DiMarino recommended tuna or hard-boiled eggs, which are high in protein but not processed. But you likely don’t need to stress about ensuring you’re meeting, or exceeding, your daily protein allotment.

“People just need to relax about protein intake,” Dr. Cutting-Jones said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You don’t need nearly as much protein to be healthy and strong as many people think you do.

Agree. Everyone has fallen for the protein overhype.

Oh this is so true! I sent this to my friend who was crowd sourcing best protein bars.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/12/well/eat/protein-bars.html

Did you actually read the article? The moral is check the label not that protein is overhyped.

I’m pro protein and pro heavy weights and a woman. I believe most middle aged women aren’t doing enough of either (especially those who in this thread).

Yes, I read it and these were my main takeaways:

You’d be hard-pressed to find an American who actually needs more protein, though, said Eric Rimm, a professor of epidemiology and nutrition at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. Most meat eaters get far more than the recommended daily dose of protein (which is about 0.4 grams per pound of body weight). And those who don’t eat meat can get enough protein from plant sources like tofu, nuts and legumes.

You also might consider opting for a different snack that’s just as portable and nutritious, Dr. Rimm said, like grapes, a banana, an apple or yogurt with berries. Dr. Nestle suggested a handful of nuts and Mr. DiMarino recommended tuna or hard-boiled eggs, which are high in protein but not processed. But you likely don’t need to stress about ensuring you’re meeting, or exceeding, your daily protein allotment.

“People just need to relax about protein intake,” Dr. Cutting-Jones said.

I’d definitely pick tuna/eggs over a protein bar. But as for amount of protein, nah, I disagree with the epidemiologist.

[Anonymous]

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I think different people process the calories differently. Some are really efficient at it and thus need to eat less and some bodies are less efficient and thus need to eat more. Same for how the body uses the energy from food - some bodies burn it faster and less effectively than others and end up needing more energy to function. It is also not static, if you feed your body less, it will get more efficient in the processing of food and in the burning of the fuel.

Then how do you explain overweight people who eat little and thin people who eat a lot? I'm 115 pounds and I eat way more (and more often) than my DH who weighs 240 at 5'8. How is his body highly efficient? I am literally always hungry and always eating something and he has maybe a small breakfast and dinner. I would argue that my body seems to be doing a better job of processing calories. We seem to be at opposite extremes.

Thin people who eat a lot require more Food/fuel to do the same thing as larger people who don’t eat much. That means the thin people are less efficient with calorie intake as it requires them more calories to do the same thing.

[Anonymous]

Most diets fail because people are not eating enough calories

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most diets fail because people are not eating enough calories

+1 or require giving up too many treasured food items

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

I think different people process the calories differently. Some are really efficient at it and thus need to eat less and some bodies are less efficient and thus need to eat more. Same for how the body uses the energy from food - some bodies burn it faster and less effectively than others and end up needing more energy to function. It is also not static, if you feed your body less, it will get more efficient in the processing of food and in the burning of the fuel.

I will add that being inefficient is plus in the US. In a resource scarce area, being efficient is a plus.

Then how do you explain overweight people who eat little and thin people who eat a lot? I'm 115 pounds and I eat way more (and more often) than my DH who weighs 240 at 5'8. How is his body highly efficient? I am literally always hungry and always eating something and he has maybe a small breakfast and dinner. I would argue that my body seems to be doing a better job of processing calories. We seem to be at opposite extremes.

Thin people who eat a lot require more Food/fuel to do the same thing as larger people who don’t eat much. That means the thin people are less efficient with calorie intake as it requires them more calories to do the same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:The ideal diet and exercise routine for each person is unique and related to their genetics. Fad diets are the ones that work for more than just a few people. But there’s no silver bullet that will work for everyone so don’t get stuck in a cycle of thinking you’re “doing it wrong” when something you’re trying don’t have the effect you’ve been told it should.

Agree with you completely (even though that’s not the spirit of this post, lol). And I think the conflicting opinions below support this idea.

I stand corrected! Not *quite* nobody agrees with me. But skimming the rest of the thread is seems we are pretty rare indeed…

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Anonymous wrote:That research will eventually prove that calories in, calories out is nowhere near the full story.

No it’s just basic physics. A calorie is a unit of energy. If you can’t lose weight with a calorie deficit, it’s because your body is slowing down calorie burn somewhere else — in other words, your math is off and you don’t actually have a deficit.

Our bodies are not bong calorimeters.

Says you. I get the munchies when I smoke.

What are typing that that's your autocorrect outcome?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That research will eventually prove that calories in, calories out is nowhere near the full story.

Agree, metabolism plays a huge role

And yet there isn't a single overweight person in pictures from concentration camps.

You're comparing calorie restriction to starvation and illness?

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Anonymous wrote:You don’t need nearly as much protein to be healthy and strong as many people think you do.

Agree. Everyone has fallen for the protein overhype.

Another agree here. There are dozens of us!

All i know is that for me, the more protein I eat, the less hungry I am and the more weight I lose. It also helps me get toned very quickly.