DD's teacher has a "cry board" in her classroom

[Anonymous]

These things stay with you for life, OP.
I was always on the “dumb bunny” list on the board.

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Anonymous wrote:I think in the long run, it will be better to help your daughter deal with the failing grade than try to battle the teacher. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick, so she failed. That’s the bad thing that happened. The recovery is retaking the class, or summer school, or whatever. This is a college essay waiting to be written. The D is not an insurmountable problem.

The teacher is wrong and crappy, sure. But your daughter needs to learn which fights to fight. It doesn’t help her to try to get the teacher in trouble and it doesn’t mean she actually completed the assigned work. She’s not the teacher police, she’s a student. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick and so she failed the course. That’s OKAY. Help her work through THAT.

PS, sure, complain about the cry board thing. It’s gross. But it’s not really relevant to the failing grade except that you want to maybe leverage it to weaken the teacher and get a grade that doesn’t reflect completed coursework.

PPS I would even go so far as to say that if she is outraged about the cry board thing and wants to take a stand on that for the sake of herself and future students, wonderful. Advocacy is important. To be a good advocate on that she needs to drop the grade appeal unless she’s finished the required coursework, because having a request to change the grade clouds the water on the cry board thing. Is it about one, or the other? She’d be a stronger advocate on the cry board thing without the grade issue. Take the fail, recover it the right way.

F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.

Last time I’m going to try this.

Can we get more info first? Before the pitchforks come out, talk to the teacher.

I’m also a teacher. Yes, I absolutely believe that this could be true. I just haven’t read anything on this thread yet that justifies a huge take-down.

I know a teacher who had her reputation destroyed by a parent who was working on false information. Get the facts first. Always.

How will OP feel if she takes this to the board before talking to the teacher, only to have new info revealed?

Where did I say she shouldn't talk to the teacher??

Read the post I am actually responding to.

I was responding to this:
“F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.”

Or should go higher in this sub thread, where there is a reference to “weaken[ing] the teacher”?

This thread is filled with calls to take the teacher down.

I’ve seen this happen to an innocent teacher. Someone on this thread has to remind people how altercations SHOULD be handled.

If OP can get into the teacher’s classroom to talk in person. Otherwise, the teacher has a chance to remove the evidence and claim the student misunderstood. If there’s no cry board, it shouldn’t be a problem, yes?

The fact that this teacher did not cut this student - a ninth grader with multiple disabilities who endured a hospitalization with a chronic disorder - some slack makes me much less likely to give her the benefit of the doubt on anything.

If the OP cannot meet with the teacher in person with another admin present, preferably in her classroom, then OP is well within reason to meet with admin without the teacher and lay out the situation. The teacher should not be allowed to dodge this.

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Anonymous wrote:I think in the long run, it will be better to help your daughter deal with the failing grade than try to battle the teacher. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick, so she failed. That’s the bad thing that happened. The recovery is retaking the class, or summer school, or whatever. This is a college essay waiting to be written. The D is not an insurmountable problem.

The teacher is wrong and crappy, sure. But your daughter needs to learn which fights to fight. It doesn’t help her to try to get the teacher in trouble and it doesn’t mean she actually completed the assigned work. She’s not the teacher police, she’s a student. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick and so she failed the course. That’s OKAY. Help her work through THAT.

PS, sure, complain about the cry board thing. It’s gross. But it’s not really relevant to the failing grade except that you want to maybe leverage it to weaken the teacher and get a grade that doesn’t reflect completed coursework.

PPS I would even go so far as to say that if she is outraged about the cry board thing and wants to take a stand on that for the sake of herself and future students, wonderful. Advocacy is important. To be a good advocate on that she needs to drop the grade appeal unless she’s finished the required coursework, because having a request to change the grade clouds the water on the cry board thing. Is it about one, or the other? She’d be a stronger advocate on the cry board thing without the grade issue. Take the fail, recover it the right way.

F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.

Last time I’m going to try this.

Can we get more info first? Before the pitchforks come out, talk to the teacher.

I’m also a teacher. Yes, I absolutely believe that this could be true. I just haven’t read anything on this thread yet that justifies a huge take-down.

I know a teacher who had her reputation destroyed by a parent who was working on false information. Get the facts first. Always.

How will OP feel if she takes this to the board before talking to the teacher, only to have new info revealed?

Where did I say she shouldn't talk to the teacher??

Read the post I am actually responding to.

I was responding to this:
“F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.”

Or should go higher in this sub thread, where there is a reference to “weaken[ing] the teacher”?

This thread is filled with calls to take the teacher down.

I’ve seen this happen to an innocent teacher. Someone on this thread has to remind people how altercations SHOULD be handled.

If OP can get into the teacher’s classroom to talk in person. Otherwise, the teacher has a chance to remove the evidence and claim the student misunderstood. If there’s no cry board, it shouldn’t be a problem, yes?

The fact that this teacher did not cut this student - a ninth grader with multiple disabilities who endured a hospitalization with a chronic disorder - some slack makes me much less likely to give her the benefit of the doubt on anything.

If the OP cannot meet with the teacher in person with another admin present, preferably in her classroom, then OP is well within reason to meet with admin without the teacher and lay out the situation. The teacher should not be allowed to dodge this.

You do hear this tone, correct? That the teacher is already guilty?

I’ve ONLY asked that the teacher be included in a conversation. Again: I have seen an innocent teacher destroyed because a parent took a false story to admin and above. She was proven innocent later, but the damage was done. I’m now sensitive to witch-hunts.

The student very well may be correct here and should be supported. Any effort to take the teacher down or “weaken the teacher” shouldn’t occur until AFTER a conversation with the teacher and admin.

I’m an innocent-until-guilty believer, but I suppose many aren’t.

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Anonymous wrote:I think in the long run, it will be better to help your daughter deal with the failing grade than try to battle the teacher. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick, so she failed. That’s the bad thing that happened. The recovery is retaking the class, or summer school, or whatever. This is a college essay waiting to be written. The D is not an insurmountable problem.

The teacher is wrong and crappy, sure. But your daughter needs to learn which fights to fight. It doesn’t help her to try to get the teacher in trouble and it doesn’t mean she actually completed the assigned work. She’s not the teacher police, she’s a student. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick and so she failed the course. That’s OKAY. Help her work through THAT.

PS, sure, complain about the cry board thing. It’s gross. But it’s not really relevant to the failing grade except that you want to maybe leverage it to weaken the teacher and get a grade that doesn’t reflect completed coursework.

PPS I would even go so far as to say that if she is outraged about the cry board thing and wants to take a stand on that for the sake of herself and future students, wonderful. Advocacy is important. To be a good advocate on that she needs to drop the grade appeal unless she’s finished the required coursework, because having a request to change the grade clouds the water on the cry board thing. Is it about one, or the other? She’d be a stronger advocate on the cry board thing without the grade issue. Take the fail, recover it the right way.

F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.

Last time I’m going to try this.

Can we get more info first? Before the pitchforks come out, talk to the teacher.

I’m also a teacher. Yes, I absolutely believe that this could be true. I just haven’t read anything on this thread yet that justifies a huge take-down.

I know a teacher who had her reputation destroyed by a parent who was working on false information. Get the facts first. Always.

How will OP feel if she takes this to the board before talking to the teacher, only to have new info revealed?

Where did I say she shouldn't talk to the teacher??

Read the post I am actually responding to.

I was responding to this:
“F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.”

Or should go higher in this sub thread, where there is a reference to “weaken[ing] the teacher”?

This thread is filled with calls to take the teacher down.

I’ve seen this happen to an innocent teacher. Someone on this thread has to remind people how altercations SHOULD be handled.

If OP can get into the teacher’s classroom to talk in person. Otherwise, the teacher has a chance to remove the evidence and claim the student misunderstood. If there’s no cry board, it shouldn’t be a problem, yes?

The fact that this teacher did not cut this student - a ninth grader with multiple disabilities who endured a hospitalization with a chronic disorder - some slack makes me much less likely to give her the benefit of the doubt on anything.

If the OP cannot meet with the teacher in person with another admin present, preferably in her classroom, then OP is well within reason to meet with admin without the teacher and lay out the situation. The teacher should not be allowed to dodge this.

You do hear this tone, correct? That the teacher is already guilty?

I’ve ONLY asked that the teacher be included in a conversation. Again: I have seen an innocent teacher destroyed because a parent took a false story to admin and above. She was proven innocent later, but the damage was done. I’m now sensitive to witch-hunts.

The student very well may be correct here and should be supported. Any effort to take the teacher down or “weaken the teacher” shouldn’t occur until AFTER a conversation with the teacher and admin.

I’m an innocent-until-guilty believer, but I suppose many aren’t.

And I said OP should give the teacher the opportunity to participate in a conversation with another admin present (actually I would make sure OP brings a wingman). How is that not including her in the conversation?

But a photography teacher who would fail this student under these circumstances? Really? Pls tell me how she would justify failing this student.

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Anonymous wrote:I think in the long run, it will be better to help your daughter deal with the failing grade than try to battle the teacher. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick, so she failed. That’s the bad thing that happened. The recovery is retaking the class, or summer school, or whatever. This is a college essay waiting to be written. The D is not an insurmountable problem.

The teacher is wrong and crappy, sure. But your daughter needs to learn which fights to fight. It doesn’t help her to try to get the teacher in trouble and it doesn’t mean she actually completed the assigned work. She’s not the teacher police, she’s a student. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick and so she failed the course. That’s OKAY. Help her work through THAT.

PS, sure, complain about the cry board thing. It’s gross. But it’s not really relevant to the failing grade except that you want to maybe leverage it to weaken the teacher and get a grade that doesn’t reflect completed coursework.

PPS I would even go so far as to say that if she is outraged about the cry board thing and wants to take a stand on that for the sake of herself and future students, wonderful. Advocacy is important. To be a good advocate on that she needs to drop the grade appeal unless she’s finished the required coursework, because having a request to change the grade clouds the water on the cry board thing. Is it about one, or the other? She’d be a stronger advocate on the cry board thing without the grade issue. Take the fail, recover it the right way.

F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.

Last time I’m going to try this.

Can we get more info first? Before the pitchforks come out, talk to the teacher.

I’m also a teacher. Yes, I absolutely believe that this could be true. I just haven’t read anything on this thread yet that justifies a huge take-down.

I know a teacher who had her reputation destroyed by a parent who was working on false information. Get the facts first. Always.

How will OP feel if she takes this to the board before talking to the teacher, only to have new info revealed?

Where did I say she shouldn't talk to the teacher??

Read the post I am actually responding to.

I was responding to this:
“F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.”

Or should go higher in this sub thread, where there is a reference to “weaken[ing] the teacher”?

This thread is filled with calls to take the teacher down.

I’ve seen this happen to an innocent teacher. Someone on this thread has to remind people how altercations SHOULD be handled.

If OP can get into the teacher’s classroom to talk in person. Otherwise, the teacher has a chance to remove the evidence and claim the student misunderstood. If there’s no cry board, it shouldn’t be a problem, yes?

The fact that this teacher did not cut this student - a ninth grader with multiple disabilities who endured a hospitalization with a chronic disorder - some slack makes me much less likely to give her the benefit of the doubt on anything.

If the OP cannot meet with the teacher in person with another admin present, preferably in her classroom, then OP is well within reason to meet with admin without the teacher and lay out the situation. The teacher should not be allowed to dodge this.

You do hear this tone, correct? That the teacher is already guilty?

I’ve ONLY asked that the teacher be included in a conversation. Again: I have seen an innocent teacher destroyed because a parent took a false story to admin and above. She was proven innocent later, but the damage was done. I’m now sensitive to witch-hunts.

The student very well may be correct here and should be supported. Any effort to take the teacher down or “weaken the teacher” shouldn’t occur until AFTER a conversation with the teacher and admin.

I’m an innocent-until-guilty believer, but I suppose many aren’t.

And I said OP should give the teacher the opportunity to participate in a conversation with another admin present (actually I would make sure OP brings a wingman). How is that not including her in the conversation?

But a photography teacher who would fail this student under these circumstances? Really? Pls tell me how she would justify failing this student.

That a photography teacher would fail a student under these circumstances makes me think there is a lot going on here and PP is right. OP needs to talk to the teacher.

[Anonymous]

I think it’s kind of funny. The teacher put up a cry board around finals. They are keeping track of the students that come up with BS excuses around the end of the year to bring up their grade. Like you! Your child has to be given work if their absence was excused. When did the child retrieve the work? Work is not allowed to be turned in when it is close to the end of the marking period. Again, where were you and your child before that? So yes, cry me a river and put your name on the board because you look ridiculous. How are going to appeal the grade? She was absent, she should have made up the work. You want the teacher to give a 100 instead of a 0 because she was not at school? You should get a tally on that board too…

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Anonymous wrote:I think what the teacher is trying to do is to create “antifragile” kids. And teach that kids can’t use tears to get out of trouble. It’s a good lesson, but maybe not well delivered.

It's clear the teacher is more interested in keeping a tally of how many kids she bullied to the point of breaking down. Anybody who thinks it's their job to harden a 9th grader should not be working with children.

This is OP. Yes, there is a board hanging up in the classroom with tally marks for each time she makes a student cry. Nice, isn’t it?

Simple, don’t cry.

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Anonymous wrote:I think in the long run, it will be better to help your daughter deal with the failing grade than try to battle the teacher. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick, so she failed. That’s the bad thing that happened. The recovery is retaking the class, or summer school, or whatever. This is a college essay waiting to be written. The D is not an insurmountable problem.

The teacher is wrong and crappy, sure. But your daughter needs to learn which fights to fight. It doesn’t help her to try to get the teacher in trouble and it doesn’t mean she actually completed the assigned work. She’s not the teacher police, she’s a student. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick and so she failed the course. That’s OKAY. Help her work through THAT.

PS, sure, complain about the cry board thing. It’s gross. But it’s not really relevant to the failing grade except that you want to maybe leverage it to weaken the teacher and get a grade that doesn’t reflect completed coursework.

PPS I would even go so far as to say that if she is outraged about the cry board thing and wants to take a stand on that for the sake of herself and future students, wonderful. Advocacy is important. To be a good advocate on that she needs to drop the grade appeal unless she’s finished the required coursework, because having a request to change the grade clouds the water on the cry board thing. Is it about one, or the other? She’d be a stronger advocate on the cry board thing without the grade issue. Take the fail, recover it the right way.

F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.

Last time I’m going to try this.

Can we get more info first? Before the pitchforks come out, talk to the teacher.

I’m also a teacher. Yes, I absolutely believe that this could be true. I just haven’t read anything on this thread yet that justifies a huge take-down.

I know a teacher who had her reputation destroyed by a parent who was working on false information. Get the facts first. Always.

How will OP feel if she takes this to the board before talking to the teacher, only to have new info revealed?

Where did I say she shouldn't talk to the teacher??

Read the post I am actually responding to.

I was responding to this:
“F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.”

Or should go higher in this sub thread, where there is a reference to “weaken[ing] the teacher”?

This thread is filled with calls to take the teacher down.

I’ve seen this happen to an innocent teacher. Someone on this thread has to remind people how altercations SHOULD be handled.

If OP can get into the teacher’s classroom to talk in person. Otherwise, the teacher has a chance to remove the evidence and claim the student misunderstood. If there’s no cry board, it shouldn’t be a problem, yes?

The fact that this teacher did not cut this student - a ninth grader with multiple disabilities who endured a hospitalization with a chronic disorder - some slack makes me much less likely to give her the benefit of the doubt on anything.

If the OP cannot meet with the teacher in person with another admin present, preferably in her classroom, then OP is well within reason to meet with admin without the teacher and lay out the situation. The teacher should not be allowed to dodge this.

You do hear this tone, correct? That the teacher is already guilty?

I’ve ONLY asked that the teacher be included in a conversation. Again: I have seen an innocent teacher destroyed because a parent took a false story to admin and above. She was proven innocent later, but the damage was done. I’m now sensitive to witch-hunts.

The student very well may be correct here and should be supported. Any effort to take the teacher down or “weaken the teacher” shouldn’t occur until AFTER a conversation with the teacher and admin.

I’m an innocent-until-guilty believer, but I suppose many aren’t.

And I said OP should give the teacher the opportunity to participate in a conversation with another admin present (actually I would make sure OP brings a wingman). How is that not including her in the conversation?

But a photography teacher who would fail this student under these circumstances? Really? Pls tell me how she would justify failing this student.

Don’t ask me. Ask the teacher. That’s the whole point. It’s worthless to debate this here. Nobody has the full story. Nobody. We only have bits and pieces, and who knows if the story is perception or an accurate representation?

There are so many calls to blow this up, and very few calls to speak with the teacher. That’s worrisome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think in the long run, it will be better to help your daughter deal with the failing grade than try to battle the teacher. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick, so she failed. That’s the bad thing that happened. The recovery is retaking the class, or summer school, or whatever. This is a college essay waiting to be written. The D is not an insurmountable problem.

The teacher is wrong and crappy, sure. But your daughter needs to learn which fights to fight. It doesn’t help her to try to get the teacher in trouble and it doesn’t mean she actually completed the assigned work. She’s not the teacher police, she’s a student. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick and so she failed the course. That’s OKAY. Help her work through THAT.

PS, sure, complain about the cry board thing. It’s gross. But it’s not really relevant to the failing grade except that you want to maybe leverage it to weaken the teacher and get a grade that doesn’t reflect completed coursework.

PPS I would even go so far as to say that if she is outraged about the cry board thing and wants to take a stand on that for the sake of herself and future students, wonderful. Advocacy is important. To be a good advocate on that she needs to drop the grade appeal unless she’s finished the required coursework, because having a request to change the grade clouds the water on the cry board thing. Is it about one, or the other? She’d be a stronger advocate on the cry board thing without the grade issue. Take the fail, recover it the right way.

F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.

Last time I’m going to try this.

Can we get more info first? Before the pitchforks come out, talk to the teacher.

I’m also a teacher. Yes, I absolutely believe that this could be true. I just haven’t read anything on this thread yet that justifies a huge take-down.

I know a teacher who had her reputation destroyed by a parent who was working on false information. Get the facts first. Always.

How will OP feel if she takes this to the board before talking to the teacher, only to have new info revealed?

Where did I say she shouldn't talk to the teacher??

Read the post I am actually responding to.

I was responding to this:
“F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.”

Or should go higher in this sub thread, where there is a reference to “weaken[ing] the teacher”?

This thread is filled with calls to take the teacher down.

I’ve seen this happen to an innocent teacher. Someone on this thread has to remind people how altercations SHOULD be handled.

If OP can get into the teacher’s classroom to talk in person. Otherwise, the teacher has a chance to remove the evidence and claim the student misunderstood. If there’s no cry board, it shouldn’t be a problem, yes?

The fact that this teacher did not cut this student - a ninth grader with multiple disabilities who endured a hospitalization with a chronic disorder - some slack makes me much less likely to give her the benefit of the doubt on anything.

If the OP cannot meet with the teacher in person with another admin present, preferably in her classroom, then OP is well within reason to meet with admin without the teacher and lay out the situation. The teacher should not be allowed to dodge this.

You do hear this tone, correct? That the teacher is already guilty?

I’ve ONLY asked that the teacher be included in a conversation. Again: I have seen an innocent teacher destroyed because a parent took a false story to admin and above. She was proven innocent later, but the damage was done. I’m now sensitive to witch-hunts.

The student very well may be correct here and should be supported. Any effort to take the teacher down or “weaken the teacher” shouldn’t occur until AFTER a conversation with the teacher and admin.

I’m an innocent-until-guilty believer, but I suppose many aren’t.

And I said OP should give the teacher the opportunity to participate in a conversation with another admin present (actually I would make sure OP brings a wingman). How is that not including her in the conversation?

But a photography teacher who would fail this student under these circumstances? Really? Pls tell me how she would justify failing this student.

Don’t ask me. Ask the teacher. That’s the whole point. It’s worthless to debate this here. Nobody has the full story. Nobody. We only have bits and pieces, and who knows if the story is perception or an accurate representation?

There are so many calls to blow this up, and very few calls to speak with the teacher. That’s worrisome.

And I said speak to the teacher. With witnesses present.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think in the long run, it will be better to help your daughter deal with the failing grade than try to battle the teacher. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick, so she failed. That’s the bad thing that happened. The recovery is retaking the class, or summer school, or whatever. This is a college essay waiting to be written. The D is not an insurmountable problem.

The teacher is wrong and crappy, sure. But your daughter needs to learn which fights to fight. It doesn’t help her to try to get the teacher in trouble and it doesn’t mean she actually completed the assigned work. She’s not the teacher police, she’s a student. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick and so she failed the course. That’s OKAY. Help her work through THAT.

PS, sure, complain about the cry board thing. It’s gross. But it’s not really relevant to the failing grade except that you want to maybe leverage it to weaken the teacher and get a grade that doesn’t reflect completed coursework.

PPS I would even go so far as to say that if she is outraged about the cry board thing and wants to take a stand on that for the sake of herself and future students, wonderful. Advocacy is important. To be a good advocate on that she needs to drop the grade appeal unless she’s finished the required coursework, because having a request to change the grade clouds the water on the cry board thing. Is it about one, or the other? She’d be a stronger advocate on the cry board thing without the grade issue. Take the fail, recover it the right way.

F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.

Last time I’m going to try this.

Can we get more info first? Before the pitchforks come out, talk to the teacher.

I’m also a teacher. Yes, I absolutely believe that this could be true. I just haven’t read anything on this thread yet that justifies a huge take-down.

I know a teacher who had her reputation destroyed by a parent who was working on false information. Get the facts first. Always.

How will OP feel if she takes this to the board before talking to the teacher, only to have new info revealed?

Where did I say she shouldn't talk to the teacher??

Read the post I am actually responding to.

I was responding to this:
“F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.”

Or should go higher in this sub thread, where there is a reference to “weaken[ing] the teacher”?

This thread is filled with calls to take the teacher down.

I’ve seen this happen to an innocent teacher. Someone on this thread has to remind people how altercations SHOULD be handled.

If OP can get into the teacher’s classroom to talk in person. Otherwise, the teacher has a chance to remove the evidence and claim the student misunderstood. If there’s no cry board, it shouldn’t be a problem, yes?

The fact that this teacher did not cut this student - a ninth grader with multiple disabilities who endured a hospitalization with a chronic disorder - some slack makes me much less likely to give her the benefit of the doubt on anything.

If the OP cannot meet with the teacher in person with another admin present, preferably in her classroom, then OP is well within reason to meet with admin without the teacher and lay out the situation. The teacher should not be allowed to dodge this.

You do hear this tone, correct? That the teacher is already guilty?

I’ve ONLY asked that the teacher be included in a conversation. Again: I have seen an innocent teacher destroyed because a parent took a false story to admin and above. She was proven innocent later, but the damage was done. I’m now sensitive to witch-hunts.

The student very well may be correct here and should be supported. Any effort to take the teacher down or “weaken the teacher” shouldn’t occur until AFTER a conversation with the teacher and admin.

I’m an innocent-until-guilty believer, but I suppose many aren’t.

And I said OP should give the teacher the opportunity to participate in a conversation with another admin present (actually I would make sure OP brings a wingman). How is that not including her in the conversation?

But a photography teacher who would fail this student under these circumstances? Really? Pls tell me how she would justify failing this student.

Don’t ask me. Ask the teacher. That’s the whole point. It’s worthless to debate this here. Nobody has the full story. Nobody. We only have bits and pieces, and who knows if the story is perception or an accurate representation?

There are so many calls to blow this up, and very few calls to speak with the teacher. That’s worrisome.

And I said speak to the teacher. With witnesses present.

Fine. Not a problem. I would advise against taking this accusatory attitude to the meeting.

As long as you aren’t suggesting that the OP post videos all over social media, contact the news, and go to the board (all suggestions on this thread), then we’re good.

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Anonymous wrote:Just wanted to add that I had a difficult situation when my child was hospitalized with what turned out to be a chronic condition. Some of the teachers were refusing to give extended completion time or excuse work because she didn’t have a 504 in place at the time of the hospitalization. I wasted a lot of time dealing with the counselor and then finally asked the right question to learn she had no authority to overrule the teachers. The AP did. I pointed out that under the ADA she was entitled to accommodations for her disability even though she did not have a 504 in place yet. They gave in and gave her much more time with some assignments excused altogether.

OP this is the kind of information that you need to find out for your PW County and your school. Can your DD get an incomplete to give her time to finish up the work? How long will they allow? If the teacher is a 10 month employee, who will be your DD's point of contact for any questions or to turn in the work?

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I’m the school board info poster. To the teacher apologist - I’m sorry for your innocent friend. You are on a board of special needs parents. I can’t speak for any other parent but in addition to my child, I also have diagnoses and grew up with an IEP. The list of teachers who have broken district rules / federal laws / rules of human decency and kindness grows and grows as the years go by. By the time your kid is a teenager, and crying, with video evidence of something that is just plain mean, you have run low on your desire to “hear them out”

If an innocent teacher gets accused of something I’d hope their admin or union will be able to sus out the real truth. In my experience even going all the way up the chain to the Captain does little unless truly egregious things have happened or the teacher has a thick HR file already.

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Anonymous wrote:DD's 9th grade photography teacher has a board hanging up in her classroom called "closet tears". Yesterday, DD was told by this teacher that she was going to fail her for "not trying hard enough". DD started to cry, as she HAS been trying as best she could to catch up, but the teacher refused to reduce any of the workload despite legitimate absences. DD has been very sick the second half of this year, including being in the hospital and finally getting diagnosed with an autoimmune disease a few weeks ago. The teacher told DD to walk over and put a hash mark on the "closet tears" board.

I was already livid and now I'm just in an absolute rage. She has an IEP for dyslexia, dysgraphia and slow processing speed. I contacted the school on May 24th after we got her diagnosis and asked for an IEP meeting to address her medical conditions. After several email reminders, they finally scheduled it for August 14th.

Do we have any recourse to fight the failing grade? And the teacher bullying her students by boasting about making them cry? WTF?

Oh, DD has video of the closet tears board. She took it before leaving class yesterday (last day of school).

March into the principal 's office and reach out to the media.

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Anonymous wrote:I think in the long run, it will be better to help your daughter deal with the failing grade than try to battle the teacher. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick, so she failed. That’s the bad thing that happened. The recovery is retaking the class, or summer school, or whatever. This is a college essay waiting to be written. The D is not an insurmountable problem.

The teacher is wrong and crappy, sure. But your daughter needs to learn which fights to fight. It doesn’t help her to try to get the teacher in trouble and it doesn’t mean she actually completed the assigned work. She’s not the teacher police, she’s a student. She couldn’t do the work because she was sick and so she failed the course. That’s OKAY. Help her work through THAT.

PS, sure, complain about the cry board thing. It’s gross. But it’s not really relevant to the failing grade except that you want to maybe leverage it to weaken the teacher and get a grade that doesn’t reflect completed coursework.

PPS I would even go so far as to say that if she is outraged about the cry board thing and wants to take a stand on that for the sake of herself and future students, wonderful. Advocacy is important. To be a good advocate on that she needs to drop the grade appeal unless she’s finished the required coursework, because having a request to change the grade clouds the water on the cry board thing. Is it about one, or the other? She’d be a stronger advocate on the cry board thing without the grade issue. Take the fail, recover it the right way.

F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.

Last time I’m going to try this.

Can we get more info first? Before the pitchforks come out, talk to the teacher.

I’m also a teacher. Yes, I absolutely believe that this could be true. I just haven’t read anything on this thread yet that justifies a huge take-down.

I know a teacher who had her reputation destroyed by a parent who was working on false information. Get the facts first. Always.

How will OP feel if she takes this to the board before talking to the teacher, only to have new info revealed?

Where did I say she shouldn't talk to the teacher??

Read the post I am actually responding to.

I was responding to this:
“F*** this. Oh hellllllllll no. This person should not see the inside of a classroom ever again. I say that as a teacher.

I am livid for you OP.”

Or should go higher in this sub thread, where there is a reference to “weaken[ing] the teacher”?

This thread is filled with calls to take the teacher down.

I’ve seen this happen to an innocent teacher. Someone on this thread has to remind people how altercations SHOULD be handled.

If OP can get into the teacher’s classroom to talk in person. Otherwise, the teacher has a chance to remove the evidence and claim the student misunderstood. If there’s no cry board, it shouldn’t be a problem, yes?

The fact that this teacher did not cut this student - a ninth grader with multiple disabilities who endured a hospitalization with a chronic disorder - some slack makes me much less likely to give her the benefit of the doubt on anything.

If the OP cannot meet with the teacher in person with another admin present, preferably in her classroom, then OP is well within reason to meet with admin without the teacher and lay out the situation. The teacher should not be allowed to dodge this.

You do hear this tone, correct? That the teacher is already guilty?

I’ve ONLY asked that the teacher be included in a conversation. Again: I have seen an innocent teacher destroyed because a parent took a false story to admin and above. She was proven innocent later, but the damage was done. I’m now sensitive to witch-hunts.

The student very well may be correct here and should be supported. Any effort to take the teacher down or “weaken the teacher” shouldn’t occur until AFTER a conversation with the teacher and admin.

I’m an innocent-until-guilty believer, but I suppose many aren’t.

And I said OP should give the teacher the opportunity to participate in a conversation with another admin present (actually I would make sure OP brings a wingman). How is that not including her in the conversation?

But a photography teacher who would fail this student under these circumstances? Really? Pls tell me how she would justify failing this student.

Don’t ask me. Ask the teacher. That’s the whole point. It’s worthless to debate this here. Nobody has the full story. Nobody. We only have bits and pieces, and who knows if the story is perception or an accurate representation?

There are so many calls to blow this up, and very few calls to speak with the teacher. That’s worrisome.

And I said speak to the teacher. With witnesses present.

Fine. Not a problem. I would advise against taking this accusatory attitude to the meeting.

As long as you aren’t suggesting that the OP post videos all over social media, contact the news, and go to the board (all suggestions on this thread), then we’re good.

Who cares what you think is good ? Lmfao

The reason BLM etc are making actual change is because people who are being victimized have finally refused to be quiet.

Don't go quietly, OP. Raise hell.

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Anonymous wrote:Post a picture of the board to social media and to local sites. Tag the school and the principal and name the teacher.

This. If teacher or principal take issue and are embarrassed, now why would that be? They should be ok with it being out there.