Aliens and the government

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ufo-hearing-congress-uap-takeaways-whistleblower-conference-david-grusch-2023/
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/26/politics/ufo-house-hearing-congress/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2023/jul/26/ufo-hearing-congress-david-grusch-whistleblower-live-updates

Mind-blowing hearing this morning. I am in tears. We are not alone. This is historic and humbling!


Holy crap. The CBS article in particular goes into a lot of detail.

I’ve always thought the probability is that we aren’t alone. But I subscribe to Stephen Hawking’s view, which was that the distance any intelligent life forms would have to travel to reach us is so vast that in order to get here, they’d have to use technology that is massively more advanced than what we have. As such, we’d be at their mercy.

So his view was that it’s foolish for us to advertise our existence because we’re basically extremely simple life forms.


+1

Probably the best thing we have going for us is that our sun is one of about 400 billion stars in the Milky Way galaxy, and since it is so vast, visiting all of the different planets and systems requires traveling at relativistic speeds. So the probability that an advanced alien species might be flying by our planet right now is very low.

That implies that they just kind of point and shoot themselves aimlessly.

There have been several alleged UFO/alien encounters that are credible. It is well possible that “NHI” have been here and might even be here, cloaked or blending or whatever.


I have no doubt that any alien species that could get to Earth would know exactly which planets had the potential for life. So they would know where they were going. I just don’t think that Earth would be more interesting than any other planet with life. (And there are probably a lot of them very far apart.) So they wouldn’t have any compelling reason to stick around or return again and again.

That we’re aware of. What reason would they have for coming here in the first place anyway?


My assumption is that they would be explorers and anthropologists. The evolutionary process plays out differently on every planet with life, so the differences must be thrilling and astonishing to witness.

So if they were explorers/anthropologists, they’d come here repeatedly to see the progress. Or just stay here for long periods, like Jane Goodall staying in the jungle for months and years at a time.


It seems logical to me that if your mission was to travel around the Galaxy and see what the living planets had to offer, you would want to keep moving and not stay in one place too long because they are so far apart. And due to the sheer distance from one star system to the next, checking back on Earth’s progress could mean thousands or even millions of earth years between visits.
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Anonymous wrote:Do we believe this whistleblower guy? I’m very skeptical


UFO sightings linked to military areas apparently

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/07/25/ufo-sightings-linked-to-military-training-locations-report-finds/
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Anonymous wrote:Do we believe this whistleblower guy? I’m very skeptical


UFO sightings linked to military areas apparently

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/07/25/ufo-sightings-linked-to-military-training-locations-report-finds/

And they’re so common sometimes that pilots are debriefed before flights.
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Anonymous wrote:It's important to remember that earlier civilizations have made claims about contact with alien life forms.

While humans think in terms of conquest and exploitation, that is our response. We don't know what we are dealing with, but it may not have hostile intent.

It's possible UFOs have been seen before our modern era. Check out these medieval paintings that depict UFOs as we depict them today. Very interesting.

https://sports.yahoo.com/ufos-discovered-historical-paintings-114905870.html

And on it goes. I think it's important to consider the possibility that if indeed this is happening, there may be no need to consider them a threat to us. In fact, if we respond with aggression, they may respond in kind. Chances are, with their likely superior technology, they could probably annihilate us. So it behooves us to be prepared to view this from a peaceful perspective. Not a chance we'd be able to combat them, anyway.

I remember an Unsolved Mysteries where someone suggested these are visitors from our future. That is another possibility.


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Anonymous wrote:Do we believe this whistleblower guy? I’m very skeptical


UFO sightings linked to military areas apparently

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/07/25/ufo-sightings-linked-to-military-training-locations-report-finds/

And they’re so common sometimes that pilots are debriefed before flights.


dp here. I trust legit research over stories from what a few pilots seem to have think they saw.
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Anonymous wrote:Do we believe this whistleblower guy? I’m very skeptical


UFO sightings linked to military areas apparently

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/07/25/ufo-sightings-linked-to-military-training-locations-report-finds/


cover up?
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Anonymous wrote:Do we believe this whistleblower guy? I’m very skeptical


UFO sightings linked to military areas apparently

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/07/25/ufo-sightings-linked-to-military-training-locations-report-finds/

And they’re so common sometimes that pilots are debriefed before flights.


dp here. I trust legit research over stories from what a few pilots seem to have think they saw.

Wow. You don’t hear a lot of people putting military pilots, with all their screening and extensive training, into the same camp as Jethro from the swamp excited to have his day in the sun. And certainly since so many pilots have become famous for their stories about the UFOs they’ve seen, that’s what the pilots are, just attention hounds. Or wait…

Interestingly, astronaut Edgar Mitchell said the same thing, that aliens are real, have been here and the government has evidence. I mean I guess he’s just a pilot, too. The astronauts were such uneducated hicks. https://www.theguardian.com/world/deadlineusa/2009/apr/22/ufos-apollo-astronaut-extraterrestrials

(My post is dripping pretty heavily with sarcasm, in case anyone didn’t notice).
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Anonymous wrote:Do we believe this whistleblower guy? I’m very skeptical


UFO sightings linked to military areas apparently

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/07/25/ufo-sightings-linked-to-military-training-locations-report-finds/

And they’re so common sometimes that pilots are debriefed before flights.


dp here. I trust legit research over stories from what a few pilots seem to have think they saw.

Wow. You don’t hear a lot of people putting military pilots, with all their screening and extensive training, into the same camp as Jethro from the swamp excited to have his day in the sun. And certainly since so many pilots have become famous for their stories about the UFOs they’ve seen, that’s what the pilots are, just attention hounds. Or wait…

Interestingly, astronaut Edgar Mitchell said the same thing, that aliens are real, have been here and the government has evidence. I mean I guess he’s just a pilot, too. The astronauts were such uneducated hicks. https://www.theguardian.com/world/deadlineusa/2009/apr/22/ufos-apollo-astronaut-extraterrestrials

(My post is dripping pretty heavily with sarcasm, in case anyone didn’t notice).


Couldn't both true? Some of these stories may be something unknown but most of these stories are BS. Not a tin foil hat person!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do we believe this whistleblower guy? I’m very skeptical


UFO sightings linked to military areas apparently

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/07/25/ufo-sightings-linked-to-military-training-locations-report-finds/

And they’re so common sometimes that pilots are debriefed before flights.


dp here. I trust legit research over stories from what a few pilots seem to have think they saw.

Wow. You don’t hear a lot of people putting military pilots, with all their screening and extensive training, into the same camp as Jethro from the swamp excited to have his day in the sun. And certainly since so many pilots have become famous for their stories about the UFOs they’ve seen, that’s what the pilots are, just attention hounds. Or wait…

Interestingly, astronaut Edgar Mitchell said the same thing, that aliens are real, have been here and the government has evidence. I mean I guess he’s just a pilot, too. The astronauts were such uneducated hicks. https://www.theguardian.com/world/deadlineusa/2009/apr/22/ufos-apollo-astronaut-extraterrestrials

(My post is dripping pretty heavily with sarcasm, in case anyone didn’t notice).


Couldn't both true? Some of these stories may be something unknown but most of these stories are BS. Not a tin foil hat person!

My point is that many unknown things seen in the sky are easily explained. Starlink satellite, their launches, weird clouds, super secret military jets, bugs, escaped balloons, etc… but when a military pilot says they’ve seen something, when they’re willing to say that out loud at huge risk to their careers, I think they’re one of the few groups of people who have earned the benefit of the doubt.

The really frustrating thing is that for some of these UAP or whatever they’re calling them now, the military allegedly has all kinds of different radar and scans and lenses and whatever of these things in motion, which was kind of Grusch’s point: there is proof, and it’s being kept from us.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Do we believe this whistleblower guy? I’m very skeptical


UFO sightings linked to military areas apparently

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/07/25/ufo-sightings-linked-to-military-training-locations-report-finds/

And they’re so common sometimes that pilots are debriefed before flights.


dp here. I trust legit research over stories from what a few pilots seem to have think they saw.

Wow. You don’t hear a lot of people putting military pilots, with all their screening and extensive training, into the same camp as Jethro from the swamp excited to have his day in the sun. And certainly since so many pilots have become famous for their stories about the UFOs they’ve seen, that’s what the pilots are, just attention hounds. Or wait…

Interestingly, astronaut Edgar Mitchell said the same thing, that aliens are real, have been here and the government has evidence. I mean I guess he’s just a pilot, too. The astronauts were such uneducated hicks. https://www.theguardian.com/world/deadlineusa/2009/apr/22/ufos-apollo-astronaut-extraterrestrials

(My post is dripping pretty heavily with sarcasm, in case anyone didn’t notice).


Couldn't both true? Some of these stories may be something unknown but most of these stories are BS. Not a tin foil hat person!

My point is that many unknown things seen in the sky are easily explained. Starlink satellite, their launches, weird clouds, super secret military jets, bugs, escaped balloons, etc… but when a military pilot says they’ve seen something, when they’re willing to say that out loud at huge risk to their careers, I think they’re one of the few groups of people who have earned the benefit of the doubt.

The really frustrating thing is that for some of these UAP or whatever they’re calling them now, the military allegedly has all kinds of different radar and scans and lenses and whatever of these things in motion, which was kind of Grusch’s point: there is proof, and it’s being kept from us.


Aliens are smart enough to fly to this planet, but not smart enough to land and instead just keep smashing saucers into the earth and the government is covering this all up for past 75+ years?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do we believe this whistleblower guy? I’m very skeptical


UFO sightings linked to military areas apparently

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/07/25/ufo-sightings-linked-to-military-training-locations-report-finds/

And they’re so common sometimes that pilots are debriefed before flights.


dp here. I trust legit research over stories from what a few pilots seem to have think they saw.

Wow. You don’t hear a lot of people putting military pilots, with all their screening and extensive training, into the same camp as Jethro from the swamp excited to have his day in the sun. And certainly since so many pilots have become famous for their stories about the UFOs they’ve seen, that’s what the pilots are, just attention hounds. Or wait…

Interestingly, astronaut Edgar Mitchell said the same thing, that aliens are real, have been here and the government has evidence. I mean I guess he’s just a pilot, too. The astronauts were such uneducated hicks. https://www.theguardian.com/world/deadlineusa/2009/apr/22/ufos-apollo-astronaut-extraterrestrials

(My post is dripping pretty heavily with sarcasm, in case anyone didn’t notice).


Couldn't both true? Some of these stories may be something unknown but most of these stories are BS. Not a tin foil hat person!

My point is that many unknown things seen in the sky are easily explained. Starlink satellite, their launches, weird clouds, super secret military jets, bugs, escaped balloons, etc… but when a military pilot says they’ve seen something, when they’re willing to say that out loud at huge risk to their careers, I think they’re one of the few groups of people who have earned the benefit of the doubt.

The really frustrating thing is that for some of these UAP or whatever they’re calling them now, the military allegedly has all kinds of different radar and scans and lenses and whatever of these things in motion, which was kind of Grusch’s point: there is proof, and it’s being kept from us.


Aliens are smart enough to fly to this planet, but not smart enough to land and instead just keep smashing saucers into the earth and the government is covering this all up for past 75+ years?

Some of us are smart enough to design and build airplanes and rockets, to perform brain surgery, all sorts of things that would have been unbelievable about a million years ago when humans started evolving into humans. Mistakes still happen.

And I’m certainly looking at this with a jaundiced eye. I like AOC and Raskin a lot, I think they’re intelligent and really good at their jobs. I do not have the same feelings about Mace, Gaetz, Luna, etc. but they’re all working together on this, which is very weird and very out of character for Republicans. Wait for proof but this is definitely different.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do we believe this whistleblower guy? I’m very skeptical


UFO sightings linked to military areas apparently

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/07/25/ufo-sightings-linked-to-military-training-locations-report-finds/

And they’re so common sometimes that pilots are debriefed before flights.


dp here. I trust legit research over stories from what a few pilots seem to have think they saw.

Wow. You don’t hear a lot of people putting military pilots, with all their screening and extensive training, into the same camp as Jethro from the swamp excited to have his day in the sun. And certainly since so many pilots have become famous for their stories about the UFOs they’ve seen, that’s what the pilots are, just attention hounds. Or wait…

Interestingly, astronaut Edgar Mitchell said the same thing, that aliens are real, have been here and the government has evidence. I mean I guess he’s just a pilot, too. The astronauts were such uneducated hicks. https://www.theguardian.com/world/deadlineusa/2009/apr/22/ufos-apollo-astronaut-extraterrestrials

(My post is dripping pretty heavily with sarcasm, in case anyone didn’t notice).


Couldn't both true? Some of these stories may be something unknown but most of these stories are BS. Not a tin foil hat person!

My point is that many unknown things seen in the sky are easily explained. Starlink satellite, their launches, weird clouds, super secret military jets, bugs, escaped balloons, etc… but when a military pilot says they’ve seen something, when they’re willing to say that out loud at huge risk to their careers, I think they’re one of the few groups of people who have earned the benefit of the doubt.

The really frustrating thing is that for some of these UAP or whatever they’re calling them now, the military allegedly has all kinds of different radar and scans and lenses and whatever of these things in motion, which was kind of Grusch’s point: there is proof, and it’s being kept from us.


Aliens are smart enough to fly to this planet, but not smart enough to land and instead just keep smashing saucers into the earth and the government is covering this all up for past 75+ years?

Some of us are smart enough to design and build airplanes and rockets, to perform brain surgery, all sorts of things that would have been unbelievable about a million years ago when humans started evolving into humans. Mistakes still happen.

And I’m certainly looking at this with a jaundiced eye. I like AOC and Raskin a lot, I think they’re intelligent and really good at their jobs. I do not have the same feelings about Mace, Gaetz, Luna, etc. but they’re all working together on this, which is very weird and very out of character for Republicans. Wait for proof but this is definitely different.


And these mistakes just so happens in the U.S. and not Mexico, Italy, or Vietnam?
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And these mistakes just so happens in the U.S. and not Mexico, Italy, or Vietnam?


Interesting that you ask. Grusch actually alleges that one of the first craft recoveries actually occurred in Italy in the 1930s...

Anonymous
For all we know earth is like a truck stop or 7-11 to aliens. They stop by; grab whatever they need and move along. Some les technical may have crashed for in reason or another.

Most likely what all the footage being released is of probes or their versions of uav. Except theirs can go underwater and not lose any velocity….uh; something we have no idea to even get close to. Like, literally. Other than anti-gravity or some form of dark energy we have nada on ideas.

An 11 year old with a set of Plato has a better chance of building the Flux Capacitor than any human building what many of those videos show.
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