When are the restaurant tables that are on the street...

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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

Uh, huh. Says the guy who just moved here from Indiana

This. Being smug about living in Logan circle is a specific look.

Yes, I do live in VA. But im from here and mostly metro for DC stuff. I take public transportation, walk, bike to work often and prefer it. Sometimes i do need to drive though. Especially if it’s a time we have to get a sitter. Not finding parking within a few blocks does impact dining choice at times.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't eat at restaurants that have street dining if you don't want to, but no, don't ruin it for the rest of us. You are one person, you have a choice to how and where you dine, you are just here to be obnoxious or troll.

You’re just one person as well, and the name calling suggests you struggle with people whose opinions differ from yours. That’s unfortunate.

Do a poll, the people of this city aren't with you on this one. Good luck.

Dp. I don’t think it’s as black and white as either of you are making it out to be. I’m supportive of streateries that take up parking spots. Not supportive of streateries that encroach on driving lanes on very busy roads.

Well, since most of the commercial areas are on busy roads, and thus streateries being in those lanes, what do you suggest?

Most of the streateries I’m aware of are in parking spaces. Like U Street, union market, etc… Which I’m totally cool with. Don’t give a damn about parking. It would be nice if all of you stopped driving into the city anyways.

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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

Uh, huh. Says the guy who just moved here from Indiana

This. Being smug about living in Logan circle is a specific look.

Yes, I do live in VA. But im from here and mostly metro for DC stuff. I take public transportation, walk, bike to work often and prefer it. Sometimes i do need to drive though. Especially if it’s a time we have to get a sitter. Not finding parking within a few blocks does impact dining choice at times.

I’d be way into SuperBlocks though. We could benefit from shutting down more streets and having squares.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a problem with restaurants being allowed to set up tables in a parking lane provided they pay "rent" to the city. They shouldn't be allowed to take over public spaces for free.

Also agree with the PP re: sidewalks.

Cool, we can charge them the same "rent" that the city charges drivers who take over those public spaces. Currently I believe that's $2.25 an hour between the hours of 7am and 6:30pm, so, roughly $26 per day per parking space. I doubt the restaurants will find that too much of a burden.

Where do you think the money for roads comes from in the first place? Do you think it falls from the sky? We pay for roads and road maintenance through a combination of gas taxes (paid by drivers), user fees (paid by drivers) and income taxes (paid primarily by drivers).

D.C. income taxes are not paid primarily by people driving on D.C.'s roads. Nor the user fees, really. And, honestly, I bet a lot of the gas purchases people make in the area are also not in D.C.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't have a problem with restaurants being allowed to set up tables in a parking lane provided they pay "rent" to the city. They shouldn't be allowed to take over public spaces for free.

Also agree with the PP re: sidewalks.

Cool, we can charge them the same "rent" that the city charges drivers who take over those public spaces. Currently I believe that's $2.25 an hour between the hours of 7am and 6:30pm, so, roughly $26 per day per parking space. I doubt the restaurants will find that too much of a burden.

Where do you think the money for roads comes from in the first place? Do you think it falls from the sky? We pay for roads and road maintenance through a combination of gas taxes (paid by drivers), user fees (paid by drivers) and income taxes (paid primarily by drivers).

D.C. income taxes are not paid primarily by people driving on D.C.'s roads. Nor the user fees, really. And, honestly, I bet a lot of the gas purchases people make in the area are also not in D.C.

We’ll put you down in the “the money to pay for all this stuff probably just fell out of the sky” camp

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

Have fun. The rest of us will enjoy walking or biking to our next meal.

Really? You're going to bike home on a full stomach? Must be a real light eater...

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Anonymous wrote:and causing a lane to be closed going to be removed ??? They came about because of Covid, but now seem to have outlived their usefulness.

I never saw the attraction of eating in a closed lane on the street and inhaling vehicle fumes and loud automobile sounds while dining... not to mention being in a position where a car could kill me.

Sorry that our local restaurants are affecting your commute into our city from your soul less suburb in your gas guzzler, but we city dwellers happen to like having extra outdoor seating.

Actually, outdoor seating in the suburbs is going to be way more pleasant than outdoor seating in DC where you rub elbows with passing traffic or get bumped by a pedestrian hustling by.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

I mean, how would you know this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a problem with restaurants being allowed to set up tables in a parking lane provided they pay "rent" to the city. They shouldn't be allowed to take over public spaces for free.

Also agree with the PP re: sidewalks.

Cool, we can charge them the same "rent" that the city charges drivers who take over those public spaces. Currently I believe that's $2.25 an hour between the hours of 7am and 6:30pm, so, roughly $26 per day per parking space. I doubt the restaurants will find that too much of a burden.

Where do you think the money for roads comes from in the first place? Do you think it falls from the sky? We pay for roads and road maintenance through a combination of gas taxes (paid by drivers), user fees (paid by drivers) and income taxes (paid primarily by drivers).

D.C. income taxes are not paid primarily by people driving on D.C.'s roads. Nor the user fees, really. And, honestly, I bet a lot of the gas purchases people make in the area are also not in D.C.

Looking at the DC Costco gas lines, I'm not so sure about that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

Have fun. The rest of us will enjoy walking or biking to our next meal.

Really? You're going to bike home on a full stomach? Must be a real light eater...

Is this a joke? How are you eating so much that you can't ride a bike afterward???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:and causing a lane to be closed going to be removed ??? They came about because of Covid, but now seem to have outlived their usefulness.

I never saw the attraction of eating in a closed lane on the street and inhaling vehicle fumes and loud automobile sounds while dining... not to mention being in a position where a car could kill me.

Sorry that our local restaurants are affecting your commute into our city from your soul less suburb in your gas guzzler, but we city dwellers happen to like having extra outdoor seating.

Actually, outdoor seating in the suburbs is going to be way more pleasant than outdoor seating in DC where you rub elbows with passing traffic or get bumped by a pedestrian hustling by.

Great - eat there then and leave our streeteries alone

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

Uh, huh. Says the guy who just moved here from Indiana

This. Being smug about living in Logan circle is a specific look.

Yes, I do live in VA. But im from here and mostly metro for DC stuff. I take public transportation, walk, bike to work often and prefer it. Sometimes i do need to drive though. Especially if it’s a time we have to get a sitter. Not finding parking within a few blocks does impact dining choice at times.

If you ate going places where you are at risk for not finding a parking spot within a few blocks, that means you are going places like the Wharf, Navy Yard, Dupont, 14th Street - in other words high density, high vibrancy areas where parking has been at a premium with or without streeteries. If you are going places like Chevy Chase, DC or Cleveland Park, parking is still pretty easy and streetaries are not really impacting it at all.

And when you say "not finding parking" do you mean relatively free street parking or paid parking in a garage? Because in the high density areas, you are more likely to need to pay for parking anyhow. So using an Uber is likely more time and cost effective than trying to drive and park.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

Have fun. The rest of us will enjoy walking or biking to our next meal.

Really? You're going to bike home on a full stomach? Must be a real light eater...

I can't even believe someone typed this in an non-sarcastic manner.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That's great--drivers can self-segregate to the burbs and those who are not car-bound can walk to outdoor dining.

Yeah, awesome then all the restaurants will close because their customer base will be too small

Oh please. The restaurants are all packed these days. No one will miss you, so sashay away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I like the streeteries, don't care about your parking problems

Ok, well less parking means fewer customers for restaurants. We’ve found ourselves increasingly going over the border to the suburbs because it’s less hassle. Not good for anyone who runs a business in DC

That’s because you live in Upper Caucasia, the part of DC that really isn’t even a city.

Uh, huh. Says the guy who just moved here from Indiana

This. Being smug about living in Logan circle is a specific look.

Yes, I do live in VA. But im from here and mostly metro for DC stuff. I take public transportation, walk, bike to work often and prefer it. Sometimes i do need to drive though. Especially if it’s a time we have to get a sitter. Not finding parking within a few blocks does impact dining choice at times.

Lol when you say you’re from “here” where do you mean? Were you born in the city and then moved to the suburbs? Or did you move into the city from somewhere else, flee the city once you had white kids, and now want everything convenient for you to drive back in?