Physicians Assistant yelling “HELP ME” while stealing a CitiBike ?

[Anonymous]

I called the police once when I realized two toddlers had been abandoned in a stroller and when someone realized I was on the phone doing that, they started screaming at me & chasing me. I am almost certain I was filmed. F’n lunatics.

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Anonymous wrote:Count me among the people who think she's very much in the wrong and that her fake crying is awful but also think the way this has gone viral and how she's being held up as emblematic of all white women is troubling.

One of the first things I thought of when I saw this video was a time when I was walking down a city street texting, minding my own business, when a group of 4 teen girls walked up and demanded I give them my phone. My first instinct at the time, since it was about 6pm on a weekday and there were lots of people around, was to loudly start saying "These girls are trying to take my phone!" Not screaming, but just announcing to passers by what was happing in case they tried to physically take it from me. They laughed at me and walked away. I think my instincts were good.

But watching this video and the response, I now wonder how that response would look if it was recorded by someone else. Would it be clear to others what was going on? What if the video didn't catch the part where the girls demanded my phone? What did I look like calling out like that? Like some entitled white lady trying to get a group of young black people in trouble? In 2023, if a bystander heard me saying that, would they understand what was happening or assume I was just a white lade crying wolf?

So while I now understand enough context to get this woman was definitely in the wrong and find her behavior abhorrent, I worry about just assuming that anytime you see a white woman calling for help that she is faking it. Sometimes people do need help. Not all white women are bad actors. Not all black people are in the right. It feels like we are swinging from one set of assumptions to another and I don't think the outcomes are going to be great.

A woman being labelled a Karen is not the same as a black man having police sicced on him.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think she looks crazy. She seemed visibly entertained when she was yelling help. I think she was having a pretty good time.

That's how you can tell she's mentally ill. You have to be sick in the head to enjoy being the cause of someone else's distress.

Nope, she seems like she knows exactly what she is doing. She has done it before obviously. She is not mentally sick.

NP. And she has now entered the “find out” stage of FAFO.

Why would she steal a bike? It seems like she was confused and thought it was hers.

Really, how do you get that impression? I just watched the video again and didn't once hear her say that it was her bike. She yelled "help." She complained that the guy was "hurting her fetus." And she asked him to get off. There is a point (when her co-worker walks over) that she says something I couldn't understand-but at no point does she indicate clearly that she believes it to be her bike.
If she was truly afraid of this group of young black men, she would have tried to get away (screw the bike!) But she doesn't.

She clearly believes it is her bike. Whether she was right about that, I don’t know. If she thought it was hers she wouldn’t want him to take it (just like he didn’t want her to take it).

Wrong. She KNOWS it isn’t her bike because she hasn’t reserved it or paid for it.
And we KNOW she hasn’t because the guy shows the paid reservation for the bike on his phone (and I don’t think she ever says it’s her bike or that she reserved it).

I guess I know this now because it has been explained to me, but the first time I saw this video on Twitter, I was confused and didn't understand any of that. I've only used bikeshare bikes where you have to use a physical key to unlock the bike, I didn't know you could unlock them with your phone. So I thought either there was a misunderstanding or that one or the other of them had unlocked and there was a dispute. Since she was physically on the bike, it seemed likely she'd been the one to unlock it. It was only from watching the full video and having people explain the thing about unlocking it with the app that I understood.

I mean, yes, she sucks. But my first response was that there had been a miscommunication because it really seemed like she thought the bike was hers (and she was sitting on it).

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Anonymous wrote:Count me among the people who think she's very much in the wrong and that her fake crying is awful but also think the way this has gone viral and how she's being held up as emblematic of all white women is troubling.

One of the first things I thought of when I saw this video was a time when I was walking down a city street texting, minding my own business, when a group of 4 teen girls walked up and demanded I give them my phone. My first instinct at the time, since it was about 6pm on a weekday and there were lots of people around, was to loudly start saying "These girls are trying to take my phone!" Not screaming, but just announcing to passers by what was happing in case they tried to physically take it from me. They laughed at me and walked away. I think my instincts were good.

But watching this video and the response, I now wonder how that response would look if it was recorded by someone else. Would it be clear to others what was going on? What if the video didn't catch the part where the girls demanded my phone? What did I look like calling out like that? Like some entitled white lady trying to get a group of young black people in trouble? In 2023, if a bystander heard me saying that, would they understand what was happening or assume I was just a white lade crying wolf?

So while I now understand enough context to get this woman was definitely in the wrong and find her behavior abhorrent, I worry about just assuming that anytime you see a white woman calling for help that she is faking it. Sometimes people do need help. Not all white women are bad actors. Not all black people are in the right. It feels like we are swinging from one set of assumptions to another and I don't think the outcomes are going to be great.

A woman being labelled a Karen is not the same as a black man having police sicced on him.

I didn't say it was the same. But it's still dangerous to start assuming that any white woman asking for help is lying. The idea that white women are de facto liars is troubling to me, a white woman who does not steal bikes from people or call the cops on black men for kicks. I don't want the behavior of these white women being used to justify not believing me when I'm telling the truth, and I do worry that we are defining these incidents very broadly and the fixation on how she sounded when she asked for help or the look on her face as being indicative of what was happening concerns me. As a white woman, I worry that I could look and sound like that even if I was genuinely in need of help.

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Anonymous wrote:She is mentally fit to 1) remove her badge as soon as she realized that she was filmed; 2) start fake crying when she sees her colleague approaching and immediately stop crying when she knew it was not working.

She might be overworked and tired but so many of us are but we don't try to pull sh%t like that.

I wish someone would take these awful deplorables, and I don't know, dump them all in a creek somewhere.

All of her friends probably just thought she was fun crazy, but now they know she's, personality disordered, the scattered and disorganized type, antisocial, borderline, and histrionic, which means she's definitely crazy, but in a really bad way.

And from the video things appear to be unraveling for her, notice the crazy spaced-out eyes. Sadly this downward drifting mess will soon be someone's mother. Poor little unborn babe. I hope her husband can see the writing on the wall and prepares himself for the descent into madness that is to come no doubt in a short time.

Hopefully, this is a wake-up call to those who care about her. Why someone like this thought it was a good idea to procreate? I have no idea.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if she thought it was her bike because she rode it to work and left it at that bike rack (and perhaps does this every day)? I see in my neighborhood, which is up a steep hill, that people take public electric bikes and scooters and park them outside their houses, so they can easily hop back on to get back down the hill. For all intents and purposes, it is "their" bike (though anyone could come rent it in front of their house, but it's an unlikely place to rent from)

It doesn't make what she did okay, or acceptable, but that is the only reason I could see her claiming it was "her" bike.

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Anonymous wrote:Count me among the people who think she's very much in the wrong and that her fake crying is awful but also think the way this has gone viral and how she's being held up as emblematic of all white women is troubling.

One of the first things I thought of when I saw this video was a time when I was walking down a city street texting, minding my own business, when a group of 4 teen girls walked up and demanded I give them my phone. My first instinct at the time, since it was about 6pm on a weekday and there were lots of people around, was to loudly start saying "These girls are trying to take my phone!" Not screaming, but just announcing to passers by what was happing in case they tried to physically take it from me. They laughed at me and walked away. I think my instincts were good.

But watching this video and the response, I now wonder how that response would look if it was recorded by someone else. Would it be clear to others what was going on? What if the video didn't catch the part where the girls demanded my phone? What did I look like calling out like that? Like some entitled white lady trying to get a group of young black people in trouble? In 2023, if a bystander heard me saying that, would they understand what was happening or assume I was just a white lade crying wolf?

So while I now understand enough context to get this woman was definitely in the wrong and find her behavior abhorrent, I worry about just assuming that anytime you see a white woman calling for help that she is faking it. Sometimes people do need help. Not all white women are bad actors. Not all black people are in the right. It feels like we are swinging from one set of assumptions to another and I don't think the outcomes are going to be great.

Way to center the conversation on you. Get over yourself already.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if she thought it was her bike because she rode it to work and left it at that bike rack (and perhaps does this every day)? I see in my neighborhood, which is up a steep hill, that people take public electric bikes and scooters and park them outside their houses, so they can easily hop back on to get back down the hill. For all intents and purposes, it is "their" bike (though anyone could come rent it in front of their house, but it's an unlikely place to rent from)

It doesn't make what she did okay, or acceptable, but that is the only reason I could see her claiming it was "her" bike.

OMG she obviously did not think it was her bike. She knew damn well it wasn't her bike--anyone who has actually had something stolen from them knows that's not the reaction one has when a group of people you are afraid of strong-armed robs you!

[Anonymous]

Did she ever claim it was her bike? (Aside from having mostly possession).

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if she thought it was her bike because she rode it to work and left it at that bike rack (and perhaps does this every day)? I see in my neighborhood, which is up a steep hill, that people take public electric bikes and scooters and park them outside their houses, so they can easily hop back on to get back down the hill. For all intents and purposes, it is "their" bike (though anyone could come rent it in front of their house, but it's an unlikely place to rent from)

It doesn't make what she did okay, or acceptable, but that is the only reason I could see her claiming it was "her" bike.

You are reaching, and in doing so, you sound like a total moron.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry, I don’t think this kind of viral mobbing is going to work anymore. This video doesn’t come close to showing what the full story was. Women have the right to be scared of men and ask for help.

she wasn't scared. she just wasn't getting her way. stop trying to justify bad behavior

The video shows nothing of the sort.

But sure, this tiny woman is trying to kill the four big guys surrounding her. Meanwhile Jordan Neely was just misunderstood when he was violently threatening a subway car full of people.

DP. It's completely belittling to actual reasonable fear women feel in public to lump this kind of manipulative BS in with it. He politely sits there and asks her to stop stealing his bike and she responds by pushing him and briefly stealing his phone. She's very obviously not scared of him.

+1 Her fake tears

+ 2 - really incomprehensible to support her, and I don’t see her keeping her job after Bellevue investigates. I’m still so creeped out by ‘netizens’ initially misidentifying her and harassing and ‘sending (the wrong woman) hate’ according to an article posted up thread. I’m also just overall very creeped out and disturbed by online vigilante culture; isn’t recording things and showing proofs to others and police online enough? I’m just spitballing here, even though I honestly wouldn’t want to see her for a medical issue. The gleeful rabid pile-on and the culture of everyone getting in a lick during the endless public shaming seems unnecessary to me.

Yeah, she’s definitely getting fired. FO indeed.

I don’t support or not support her. I just think it’s completely unclear what happened from the (edited) video. People who frankly hate white women will certainly immediately jump with glee to take sides though.

Please don't over-inflate your importance in this world, no one really cares as much as you think they do.

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The mental gymnastics folks are doing in this thread to excuse the white lady are crazy!

If a Black person had done that to a white person, people would be all "she should go to jail" or call for all kinds of crazy punishment. If she was Black, people would be arguing that she should have been wrestled to the ground - I mean who knows if she had a weapon or something?!

The fact that this white woman got to walk away from trying to steal a bike right in front of people is crazy! Not to mention that some people there actually encouraged the guy to give her the bike - what the H@ll?

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Anonymous wrote:Count me among the people who think she's very much in the wrong and that her fake crying is awful but also think the way this has gone viral and how she's being held up as emblematic of all white women is troubling.

One of the first things I thought of when I saw this video was a time when I was walking down a city street texting, minding my own business, when a group of 4 teen girls walked up and demanded I give them my phone. My first instinct at the time, since it was about 6pm on a weekday and there were lots of people around, was to loudly start saying "These girls are trying to take my phone!" Not screaming, but just announcing to passers by what was happing in case they tried to physically take it from me. They laughed at me and walked away. I think my instincts were good.

But watching this video and the response, I now wonder how that response would look if it was recorded by someone else. Would it be clear to others what was going on? What if the video didn't catch the part where the girls demanded my phone? What did I look like calling out like that? Like some entitled white lady trying to get a group of young black people in trouble? In 2023, if a bystander heard me saying that, would they understand what was happening or assume I was just a white lade crying wolf?

So while I now understand enough context to get this woman was definitely in the wrong and find her behavior abhorrent, I worry about just assuming that anytime you see a white woman calling for help that she is faking it. Sometimes people do need help. Not all white women are bad actors. Not all black people are in the right. It feels like we are swinging from one set of assumptions to another and I don't think the outcomes are going to be great.

A woman being labelled a Karen is not the same as a black man having police sicced on him.

I didn't say it was the same. But it's still dangerous to start assuming that any white woman asking for help is lying. The idea that white women are de facto liars is troubling to me, a white woman who does not steal bikes from people or call the cops on black men for kicks. I don't want the behavior of these white women being used to justify not believing me when I'm telling the truth, and I do worry that we are defining these incidents very broadly and the fixation on how she sounded when she asked for help or the look on her face as being indicative of what was happening concerns me. As a white woman, I worry that I could look and sound like that even if I was genuinely in need of help.

When a person is genuinely in distress, it is clear.

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Anonymous wrote:Count me among the people who think she's very much in the wrong and that her fake crying is awful but also think the way this has gone viral and how she's being held up as emblematic of all white women is troubling.

One of the first things I thought of when I saw this video was a time when I was walking down a city street texting, minding my own business, when a group of 4 teen girls walked up and demanded I give them my phone. My first instinct at the time, since it was about 6pm on a weekday and there were lots of people around, was to loudly start saying "These girls are trying to take my phone!" Not screaming, but just announcing to passers by what was happing in case they tried to physically take it from me. They laughed at me and walked away. I think my instincts were good.

But watching this video and the response, I now wonder how that response would look if it was recorded by someone else. Would it be clear to others what was going on? What if the video didn't catch the part where the girls demanded my phone? What did I look like calling out like that? Like some entitled white lady trying to get a group of young black people in trouble? In 2023, if a bystander heard me saying that, would they understand what was happening or assume I was just a white lade crying wolf?

So while I now understand enough context to get this woman was definitely in the wrong and find her behavior abhorrent, I worry about just assuming that anytime you see a white woman calling for help that she is faking it. Sometimes people do need help. Not all white women are bad actors. Not all black people are in the right. It feels like we are swinging from one set of assumptions to another and I don't think the outcomes are going to be great.

A woman being labelled a Karen is not the same as a black man having police sicced on him.

Yelling “help” when you think you are being threatened or stolen from is not “siccing police” on anyone. It’s calling for help. Until anyone can prove to me that the woman knew the bike wan’t hers, I’m neutral.

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Anonymous wrote:Count me among the people who think she's very much in the wrong and that her fake crying is awful but also think the way this has gone viral and how she's being held up as emblematic of all white women is troubling.

One of the first things I thought of when I saw this video was a time when I was walking down a city street texting, minding my own business, when a group of 4 teen girls walked up and demanded I give them my phone. My first instinct at the time, since it was about 6pm on a weekday and there were lots of people around, was to loudly start saying "These girls are trying to take my phone!" Not screaming, but just announcing to passers by what was happing in case they tried to physically take it from me. They laughed at me and walked away. I think my instincts were good.

But watching this video and the response, I now wonder how that response would look if it was recorded by someone else. Would it be clear to others what was going on? What if the video didn't catch the part where the girls demanded my phone? What did I look like calling out like that? Like some entitled white lady trying to get a group of young black people in trouble? In 2023, if a bystander heard me saying that, would they understand what was happening or assume I was just a white lade crying wolf?

So while I now understand enough context to get this woman was definitely in the wrong and find her behavior abhorrent, I worry about just assuming that anytime you see a white woman calling for help that she is faking it. Sometimes people do need help. Not all white women are bad actors. Not all black people are in the right. It feels like we are swinging from one set of assumptions to another and I don't think the outcomes are going to be great.

A woman being labelled a Karen is not the same as a black man having police sicced on him.

Yelling “help” when you think you are being threatened or stolen from is not “siccing police” on anyone. It’s calling for help. Until anyone can prove to me that the woman knew the bike wan’t hers, I’m neutral.

It is a rental bike which was rented by another person, who was right there with the reservation on his phone. 10/10 not her bike and she knew it.