UVa Admissions Stats for Fall 2023

[Anonymous]

I am surprised at the higher admit rate than a number of other schools. University of Richmond has essentially the same admit rate. Schools like Colgate, Vassar and Lehigh have lower admit rates.

https://www.collegekickstart.com/blog/item/class-of-2023-admission-results

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yield rate in-state is 60%. OOS is 24%. Overall is 40%. This is to be expected. In-state is an excellent deal. OOS, kids who get into UVA also get in to other selective programs.

ANd OOS applicants have to decide if OOS tuition is worth it. They are likely applying to many OOS schools and private schools and will likely take a private school with good merit over UVA OOS for many applicants. Much harder to predict yield with OOS applicants

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Anonymous wrote:I think that yield rate puts UVA easily within the top 25 of the country. I do not think UVA exercises yield protection. It doesn't need to do so.
And no dog in this fight. Not an alum and no kid there.

Agree

ED says otherwise - UVA does exercise yield protection trough ED.

How do you yield protect thru ED? ED is binding. That's the whole point of ED, knowing that the student is committing to your university, barring finances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DC wasn't accepted to UVA and had very high stats and prior data from school predicted 100% acceptance with much room to spare (not that we expected 100% acceptance). I don't think it was yield protection, UVA just didn't need them to fill out their desired class. They are currently on WL but not holding out hope.

Finally someone reasonable, who understands that when their High stats kids doesn't get in somewhere, it is not just yield protection. It's that the admission rate is low and not everyone will get in---they have plenty of Top students to pick from and some won't make the cut, nothing personal.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yield rate in-state is 60%. OOS is 24%. Overall is 40%. This is to be expected. In-state is an excellent deal. OOS, kids who get into UVA also get in to other selective programs.

So the non-ED oos yield rate is well below 20%. Maybe below 15%? Not impressive…

UVA is a good school, but not worth OOS tuition for many. OOS total costs is $75K-80K. Many better schools to attend for that cost, so if they get in they will go there.
So OOS students apply and likely apply to many schools and go where they get in with decent merit. IMO it's not worth OOS tuition and it's likely many recognize that once they get all their admission offers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yield rate in-state is 60%. OOS is 24%. Overall is 40%. This is to be expected. In-state is an excellent deal. OOS, kids who get into UVA also get in to other selective programs.

So the non-ED oos yield rate is well below 20%. Maybe below 15%? Not impressive…

So, you want UVA to emphasize ED even more? That’s how a lot of elite schools get their yield up - they fill 50%+ of their class ED.

No “want” of any sort should be imputed. But such a weak peripheral in oos yield, in comparison to its selective public university peers, does not bode well for the sustainability of UVA’s current 57k oos tuition financial model: something will have to give.

Im not paying $75-80K for UVA. Many other privates and OOS publics are better schools for that price. Most applying OOS to UVA will be applying to those privates and OOS publics. If they get into a "better one" they will choose that. It's quite simply. I'd say with the number of OOS applicants, UVA will not change the tuition anytime soon. They are still getting enough kids---and likely pull from the OOS WL to backfill if they do not get the yield anticipated from OOS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if those declining/not attending are more out of state than in-state. It would be interesting to see those numbers.

I think yield would be much better if they accepted more than just 27% VA residents. The yield would be very high if more in-state kids were admitted.

I still think it sucks that VA public state universities offer so few spots to VA residents. Gotta get that OOS $$$$.

It should be more like UNC :

The 82/18 rule, mandating that no more than 18% of incoming first-year students at UNC System Schools are out-of-state, ensuring room for 82% in-state enrollment[u], was created in 1986. No changes to the policy have been made since.

“The intent was to ensure that there were enough seats for qualified North Carolina students in the public universities,” Kimberly van Noort, senior vice president for academic affairs and chief academic officer of the UNC System, said. “The public universities in North Carolina are very generously supported by the state and by taxpayer dollars and the intent was to prevent displacing qualified North Carolina students in favor of out-of-state students who might be paying higher tuition.”

Do that and UVA in-state tuition will likely go up. Can't have it both ways, lower instate tuition and more instate students. OOS students help keep tuition "lower" for instate students. All part of a formula.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think that yield rate puts UVA easily within the top 25 of the country. I do not think UVA exercises yield protection. It doesn't need to do so.
And no dog in this fight. Not an alum and no kid there.

I haven't seen any claims that UVA yield protects--the only public VA u that people make that claim is VT (and there's some evidence for that--but it's more like yield protection due to settings on its enrollment management algorithm rather than someone in admissions actively saying 'this high stats kid isn't going to really come here')

And Tim Sands wants it to yield protect to raise the numbers of first generation, URM and underrepresented minorities to 40% of school population which he's done The questionis wehtheror not the only polytechnic public school in the commonwealth should be doing that.

Tim Sands earned his MS and Ph.D from Berkeley.

It should come as no surprise he is trying to implement extreme left wing / social justice policies at Virginia Tech.

Why was this radical chosen at VT’s president??

Tim Sands alone is not responsible for the propaganda / shift leftward, at VT and on other college campuses, but he certainly backs things like this:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/14/sons-freshman-orientation-virginia-tech-full-leftist-propaganda/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that yield rate puts UVA easily within the top 25 of the country. I do not think UVA exercises yield protection. It doesn't need to do so.
And no dog in this fight. Not an alum and no kid there.

I haven't seen any claims that UVA yield protects--the only public VA u that people make that claim is VT (and there's some evidence for that--but it's more like yield protection due to settings on its enrollment management algorithm rather than someone in admissions actively saying 'this high stats kid isn't going to really come here')

And Tim Sands wants it to yield protect to raise the numbers of first generation, URM and underrepresented minorities to 40% of school population which he's done The questionis wehtheror not the only polytechnic public school in the commonwealth should be doing that.

Tim Sands earned his MS and Ph.D from Berkeley.

It should come as no surprise he is trying to implement extreme left wing / social justice policies at Virginia Tech.

Why was this radical chosen at VT’s president??

Tim Sands alone is not responsible for the propaganda / shift leftward, at VT and on other college campuses, but he certainly backs things like this:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/14/sons-freshman-orientation-virginia-tech-full-leftist-propaganda/

That parent assumes that their child shares, or ever shared, their political views. That is not necessarily the case!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if those declining/not attending are more out of state than in-state. It would be interesting to see those numbers.

I think yield would be much better if they accepted more than just 27% VA residents. The yield would be very high if more in-state kids were admitted.

I still think it sucks that VA public state universities offer so few spots to VA residents. Gotta get that OOS $$$$.

It should be more like UNC :

The 82/18 rule, mandating that no more than 18% of incoming first-year students at UNC System Schools are out-of-state, ensuring room for 82% in-state enrollment[u], was created in 1986. No changes to the policy have been made since.

“The intent was to ensure that there were enough seats for qualified North Carolina students in the public universities,” Kimberly van Noort, senior vice president for academic affairs and chief academic officer of the UNC System, said. “The public universities in North Carolina are very generously supported by the state and by taxpayer dollars and the intent was to prevent displacing qualified North Carolina students in favor of out-of-state students who might be paying higher tuition.”

Do that and UVA in-state tuition will likely go up. Can't have it both ways, lower instate tuition and more instate students. OOS students help keep tuition "lower" for instate students. All part of a formula.

Nope, we could have more taxpayer funding.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that yield rate puts UVA easily within the top 25 of the country. I do not think UVA exercises yield protection. It doesn't need to do so.
And no dog in this fight. Not an alum and no kid there.

I haven't seen any claims that UVA yield protects--the only public VA u that people make that claim is VT (and there's some evidence for that--but it's more like yield protection due to settings on its enrollment management algorithm rather than someone in admissions actively saying 'this high stats kid isn't going to really come here')

And Tim Sands wants it to yield protect to raise the numbers of first generation, URM and underrepresented minorities to 40% of school population which he's done The questionis wehtheror not the only polytechnic public school in the commonwealth should be doing that.

Tim Sands earned his MS and Ph.D from Berkeley.

It should come as no surprise he is trying to implement extreme left wing / social justice policies at Virginia Tech.

Why was this radical chosen at VT’s president??

Tim Sands alone is not responsible for the propaganda / shift leftward, at VT and on other college campuses, but he certainly backs things like this:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/14/sons-freshman-orientation-virginia-tech-full-leftist-propaganda/

The federalist is a radical, right wing, anti constitution organization funded by religious zealots. Anything they put out is propaganda in its purest form. It is what is wrong with this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am surprised at the higher admit rate than a number of other schools. University of Richmond has essentially the same admit rate. Schools like Colgate, Vassar and Lehigh have lower admit rates.

https://www.collegekickstart.com/blog/item/class-of-2023-admission-results

UVA’s applicants are very self-selected v. those privates. Your public high school counselor won’t support your app to UVA if they know you don’t have a shot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yield rate in-state is 60%. OOS is 24%. Overall is 40%. This is to be expected. In-state is an excellent deal. OOS, kids who get into UVA also get in to other selective programs.

So the non-ED oos yield rate is well below 20%. Maybe below 15%? Not impressive…

So, you want UVA to emphasize ED even more? That’s how a lot of elite schools get their yield up - they fill 50%+ of their class ED.

No “want” of any sort should be imputed. But such a weak peripheral in oos yield, in comparison to its selective public university peers, does not bode well for the sustainability of UVA’s current 57k oos tuition financial model: something will have to give.

Im not paying $75-80K for UVA. Many other privates and OOS publics are better schools for that price. Most applying OOS to UVA will be applying to those privates and OOS publics. If they get into a "better one" they will choose that. It's quite simply. I'd say with the number of OOS applicants, UVA will not change the tuition anytime soon. They are still getting enough kids---and likely pull from the OOS WL to backfill if they do not get the yield anticipated from OOS

Good. More room for my kid. Did you know SLACs have crossed the 90K a year line? Go look at USC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that yield rate puts UVA easily within the top 25 of the country. I do not think UVA exercises yield protection. It doesn't need to do so.
And no dog in this fight. Not an alum and no kid there.

I haven't seen any claims that UVA yield protects--the only public VA u that people make that claim is VT (and there's some evidence for that--but it's more like yield protection due to settings on its enrollment management algorithm rather than someone in admissions actively saying 'this high stats kid isn't going to really come here')

And Tim Sands wants it to yield protect to raise the numbers of first generation, URM and underrepresented minorities to 40% of school population which he's done The questionis wehtheror not the only polytechnic public school in the commonwealth should be doing that.

Tim Sands earned his MS and Ph.D from Berkeley.

It should come as no surprise he is trying to implement extreme left wing / social justice policies at Virginia Tech.

Why was this radical chosen at VT’s president??

Tim Sands alone is not responsible for the propaganda / shift leftward, at VT and on other college campuses, but he certainly backs things like this:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/14/sons-freshman-orientation-virginia-tech-full-leftist-propaganda/

The federalist is a radical, right wing, anti constitution organization funded by religious zealots. Anything they put out is propaganda in its purest form. It is what is wrong with this country.

Please point out anything inaccurate in the report.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think that yield rate puts UVA easily within the top 25 of the country. I do not think UVA exercises yield protection. It doesn't need to do so.
And no dog in this fight. Not an alum and no kid there.

I haven't seen any claims that UVA yield protects--the only public VA u that people make that claim is VT (and there's some evidence for that--but it's more like yield protection due to settings on its enrollment management algorithm rather than someone in admissions actively saying 'this high stats kid isn't going to really come here')

And Tim Sands wants it to yield protect to raise the numbers of first generation, URM and underrepresented minorities to 40% of school population which he's done The questionis wehtheror not the only polytechnic public school in the commonwealth should be doing that.

Tim Sands earned his MS and Ph.D from Berkeley.

It should come as no surprise he is trying to implement extreme left wing / social justice policies at Virginia Tech.

Why was this radical chosen at VT’s president??

Tim Sands alone is not responsible for the propaganda / shift leftward, at VT and on other college campuses, but he certainly backs things like this:

https://thefederalist.com/2019/08/14/sons-freshman-orientation-virginia-tech-full-leftist-propaganda/

Yes, he is! He made it a mission statement years ago to make VT 40% URM and underserved students by 2022 and he succeeded. OK. Why is the ONLY polytechnic PUBLIC school in the Commonwealth engaging in social engineering? I say let the privates do that. I want to see my tax dollars at work.