UVa Admissions Stats for Fall 2023

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Anonymous wrote:Yield rate in-state is 60%. OOS is 24%. Overall is 40%. This is to be expected. In-state is an excellent deal. OOS, kids who get into UVA also get in to other selective programs.

So the non-ED oos yield rate is well below 20%. Maybe below 15%? Not impressive…

So, you want UVA to emphasize ED even more? That’s how a lot of elite schools get their yield up - they fill 50%+ of their class ED.

No “want” of any sort should be imputed. But such a weak peripheral in oos yield, in comparison to its selective public university peers, does not bode well for the sustainability of UVA’s current 57k oos tuition financial model: something will have to give.

They can still fill the slots and not have to lower tuition, so I don't think anything has to give. Conversely, they probably can't give on the OOS tuition as the revenue from full pays is essential to the financial aid budget.

No, the “give” in the scenario you outlined would, ultimately, be prestige vis a vis its public university peers.

The "give" the PP cited related to OOS list price they think is too high and results in a low OOS yield. Are you saying if they don't lower OOS tuition its relative prestige vs. other publics will decline?

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Anonymous wrote:Yield rate in-state is 60%. OOS is 24%. Overall is 40%. This is to be expected. In-state is an excellent deal. OOS, kids who get into UVA also get in to other selective programs.

So the non-ED oos yield rate is well below 20%. Maybe below 15%? Not impressive…

So, you want UVA to emphasize ED even more? That’s how a lot of elite schools get their yield up - they fill 50%+ of their class ED.

No “want” of any sort should be imputed. But such a weak peripheral in oos yield, in comparison to its selective public university peers, does not bode well for the sustainability of UVA’s current 57k oos tuition financial model: something will have to give.

They can still fill the slots and not have to lower tuition, so I don't think anything has to give. Conversely, they probably can't give on the OOS tuition as the revenue from full pays is essential to the financial aid budget.

Still, that's for the legislature to decide not UVA

The Board of Visitors sets tuition and fees. Not the GA unless they passed legislation specifically setting tuition and fees.

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UVA’s yield is nowhere near the top 25. It’s probably not even top 50. That’s still pretty good, but let’s not exaggerate. It’s one of the reasons it went back to early decision. OOS tuition is very high, and it’s competing with top private schools for OOS students. It’s a harder sell.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA’s yield is nowhere near the top 25. It’s probably not even top 50. That’s still pretty good, but let’s not exaggerate. It’s one of the reasons it went back to early decision. OOS tuition is very high, and it’s competing with top private schools for OOS students. It’s a harder sell.

I suspect they need high OOS tuition for the need blind model to work.

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What % of the admitted students are va residents now? Is it 65%?

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I wonder if those declining/not attending are more out of state than in-state. It would be interesting to see those numbers.

I think yield would be much better if they accepted more than just 27% VA residents. The yield would be very high if more in-state kids were admitted.

I still think it sucks that VA public state universities offer so few spots to VA residents. Gotta get that OOS $$$$.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if those declining/not attending are more out of state than in-state. It would be interesting to see those numbers.

I think yield would be much better if they accepted more than just 27% VA residents. The yield would be very high if more in-state kids were admitted.

I still think it sucks that VA public state universities offer so few spots to VA residents. Gotta get that OOS $$$$.

It should be more like UNC :

The 82/18 rule, mandating that no more than 18% of incoming first-year students at UNC System Schools are out-of-state, ensuring room for 82% in-state enrollment[u], was created in 1986. No changes to the policy have been made since.

“The intent was to ensure that there were enough seats for qualified North Carolina students in the public universities,” Kimberly van Noort, senior vice president for academic affairs and chief academic officer of the UNC System, said. “The public universities in North Carolina are very generously supported by the state and by taxpayer dollars and the intent was to prevent displacing qualified North Carolina students in favor of out-of-state students who might be paying higher tuition.”

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if those declining/not attending are more out of state than in-state. It would be interesting to see those numbers.

I think yield would be much better if they accepted more than just 27% VA residents. The yield would be very high if more in-state kids were admitted.

I still think it sucks that VA public state universities offer so few spots to VA residents. Gotta get that OOS $$$$.

It should be more like UNC :

The 82/18 rule, mandating that no more than 18% of incoming first-year students at UNC System Schools are out-of-state, ensuring room for 82% in-state enrollment[u], was created in 1986. No changes to the policy have been made since.

“The intent was to ensure that there were enough seats for qualified North Carolina students in the public universities,” Kimberly van Noort, senior vice president for academic affairs and chief academic officer of the UNC System, said. “The public universities in North Carolina are very generously supported by the state and by taxpayer dollars and the intent was to prevent displacing qualified North Carolina students in favor of out-of-state students who might be paying higher tuition.”

And I realize a big part of the problem is that Virginia does not generously support the public universities.

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Anonymous wrote:NOVA waitlisted for UVA engineering. Too bad. Just glad another school thought 3.98/4.5, 1560 was sufficient for admission. Just had to cross the Potomac...Go Terps!

Even as a UVA engineering alum if you can afford the OOS tuition at MD, your kid is better off. UVA engineering is hard to get into but the program isn't all that great.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if those declining/not attending are more out of state than in-state. It would be interesting to see those numbers.

I think yield would be much better if they accepted more than just 27% VA residents. The yield would be very high if more in-state kids were admitted.

I still think it sucks that VA public state universities offer so few spots to VA residents. Gotta get that OOS $$$$.

You are really clueless. Yes of course the yield for accepted out of state students is much lower than in state and the numbers are readily available. The Dean of Admissions talks about this ALL THE TIME. It why the school accepts so many more out of state students than in state - the school knows that most aren’t going to enroll.

You clearly know nothing about UVA admissions and are wasted airspace on this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that yield rate puts UVA easily within the top 25 of the country. I do not think UVA exercises yield protection. It doesn't need to do so.
And no dog in this fight. Not an alum and no kid there.

I haven't seen any claims that UVA yield protects--the only public VA u that people make that claim is VT (and there's some evidence for that--but it's more like yield protection due to settings on its enrollment management algorithm rather than someone in admissions actively saying 'this high stats kid isn't going to really come here')

And Tim Sands wants it to yield protect to raise the numbers of first generation, URM and underrepresented minorities to 40% of school population which he's done The questionis wehtheror not the only polytechnic public school in the commonwealth should be doing that.

Tim Sands earned his MS and Ph.D from Berkeley.

It should come as no surprise he is trying to implement extreme left wing / social justice policies at Virginia Tech.

Why was this radical chosen at VT’s president??

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Anonymous wrote:NOVA waitlisted for UVA engineering. Too bad. Just glad another school thought 3.98/4.5, 1560 was sufficient for admission. Just had to cross the Potomac...Go Terps!

Even as a UVA engineering alum if you can afford the OOS tuition at MD, your kid is better off. UVA engineering is hard to get into but the program isn't all that great.

Thank you for the affirmation! Son was disappointed but UMD was able to offer some merit, so only a couple thousand more a year as OOS versus UVA in state.

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Anonymous wrote:I think that yield rate puts UVA easily within the top 25 of the country. I do not think UVA exercises yield protection. It doesn't need to do so.
And no dog in this fight. Not an alum and no kid there.

I haven't seen any claims that UVA yield protects--the only public VA u that people make that claim is VT (and there's some evidence for that--but it's more like yield protection due to settings on its enrollment management algorithm rather than someone in admissions actively saying 'this high stats kid isn't going to really come here')

And Tim Sands wants it to yield protect to raise the numbers of first generation, URM and underrepresented minorities to 40% of school population which he's done The questionis wehtheror not the only polytechnic public school in the commonwealth should be doing that.

Tim Sands earned his MS and Ph.D from Berkeley.

It should come as no surprise he is trying to implement extreme left wing / social justice policies at Virginia Tech.

Why was this radical chosen at VT’s president??

+1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if those declining/not attending are more out of state than in-state. It would be interesting to see those numbers.

I think yield would be much better if they accepted more than just 27% VA residents. The yield would be very high if more in-state kids were admitted.

I still think it sucks that VA public state universities offer so few spots to VA residents. Gotta get that OOS $$$$.

It should be more like UNC :

The 82/18 rule, mandating that no more than 18% of incoming first-year students at UNC System Schools are out-of-state, ensuring room for 82% in-state enrollment[u], was created in 1986. No changes to the policy have been made since.

“The intent was to ensure that there were enough seats for qualified North Carolina students in the public universities,” Kimberly van Noort, senior vice president for academic affairs and chief academic officer of the UNC System, said. “The public universities in North Carolina are very generously supported by the state and by taxpayer dollars and the intent was to prevent displacing qualified North Carolina students in favor of out-of-state students who might be paying higher tuition.”

And I realize a big part of the problem is that Virginia does not generously support the public universities.

Where on earth did you get that idea? The Commonwealth is pumping money in construction at GMU, JMU, CNU, etc. etc.

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Anonymous wrote:NOVA waitlisted for UVA engineering. Too bad. Just glad another school thought 3.98/4.5, 1560 was sufficient for admission. Just had to cross the Potomac...Go Terps!

Even as a UVA engineering alum if you can afford the OOS tuition at MD, your kid is better off. UVA engineering is hard to get into but the program isn't all that great.

VA engineers go to VA Tech as first choice, not UVA.