Is it fair to brainwash our children?

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Anonymous wrote:I get the how useful it is for humans to have morality and love of God but find it questionable to teach kids about just one religion because that's what I was taught by my parents who were taught by theirs.

I wonder if as parents its our responsibility to introduce them to all major religions, as well as concepts of agnosticism and atheism?

We did that. Christianity won.

Christianity won quickly and effectively. The other “religions” were overwhelmed and relegated to obscurity. The people posting here who are hostile to Christianity are historically ignorant and do not realize that fact. We are speaking of the Western world in this context.

The flip side is hostile to Christianity/religion posters know this, and are gnashing their teeth with impotent rage. Thus, the “we should teach everyone’s kids about all religions! IT’S NOT FAIR” posters whining here very often.

No: if you want to offer an alternative and want that alternative populated significantly, go for it. I suspect that people understand that and thus the hatred here exhibited for Christianity.

The poster who repeatedly mentions the decline of Christianity in the United States will post soon. Ok.

Check out the growth Christianity im Africa, Asia. Christianity is growing worldwide. A humble carpenter was tortured and executed by His corrupt government- but He lives all over the world today. Amen!

(That ties in with the “we should ban all missionaries” posts that rear their delusional thread heads here often. No, we aren’t going to ban missionaries. You don’t get to dictate to the world what is done because you disagree with something.)

It’s not delusional to point out how unethical some missionaries are.

And some ”belief systems” spread faster than others. eg. Q

Your personal hostility towards Christianity does not mean Christian missionaries are unethical. The world operates on a scale that may or may not coincide with your personal ethical standards. That you don’t comprehend that fact is also a you problem.

Again- no child or adult, parent or otherwise -worldwide-has to agree with you or what you choose to believe. You have no right to decide anything for anyone but yourself. You have no power to choose anything for anyone. You are in charge of you. You are in charge of your minor child/children. Other people are in charge of themselves and their minor child/children.

Stop trying to force your values/morals/choices on people. It’s delusional and you need to realize that. It’s borderline pathological to believe you have any power to do these things.

To OP -- Thanks for asking a provocative question that has generated many thoughtful responses.

Yes, pretending you (or anyone else) has the right or responsibility to demand parents raise their children to the standards of anon, rando internet trolls certainly is provocative. Other words to describe this thread are delusional, dumb, and ignorant.

Nobody decides for kids but their parents. Don’t like that simple fact? It’s a you problem.

Who on this thread has "demanded" that other people raise their kids in a certain way?

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Anonymous wrote:I get the how useful it is for humans to have morality and love of God but find it questionable to teach kids about just one religion because that's what I was taught by my parents who were taught by theirs.

I wonder if as parents its our responsibility to introduce them to all major religions, as well as concepts of agnosticism and atheism?

We did that. Christianity won.

Christianity won quickly and effectively. The other “religions” were overwhelmed and relegated to obscurity. The people posting here who are hostile to Christianity are historically ignorant and do not realize that fact. We are speaking of the Western world in this context.

The flip side is hostile to Christianity/religion posters know this, and are gnashing their teeth with impotent rage. Thus, the “we should teach everyone’s kids about all religions! IT’S NOT FAIR” posters whining here very often.

No: if you want to offer an alternative and want that alternative populated significantly, go for it. I suspect that people understand that and thus the hatred here exhibited for Christianity.

The poster who repeatedly mentions the decline of Christianity in the United States will post soon. Ok.

Check out the growth Christianity im Africa, Asia. Christianity is growing worldwide. A humble carpenter was tortured and executed by His corrupt government- but He lives all over the world today. Amen!

(That ties in with the “we should ban all missionaries” posts that rear their delusional thread heads here often. No, we aren’t going to ban missionaries. You don’t get to dictate to the world what is done because you disagree with something.)

It’s not delusional to point out how unethical some missionaries are.

And some ”belief systems” spread faster than others. eg. Q

Your personal hostility towards Christianity does not mean Christian missionaries are unethical. The world operates on a scale that may or may not coincide with your personal ethical standards. That you don’t comprehend that fact is also a you problem.

Again- no child or adult, parent or otherwise -worldwide-has to agree with you or what you choose to believe. You have no right to decide anything for anyone but yourself. You have no power to choose anything for anyone. You are in charge of you. You are in charge of your minor child/children. Other people are in charge of themselves and their minor child/children.

Stop trying to force your values/morals/choices on people. It’s delusional and you need to realize that. It’s borderline pathological to believe you have any power to do these things.

To OP -- Thanks for asking a provocative question that has generated many thoughtful responses.

Yes, pretending you (or anyone else) has the right or responsibility to demand parents raise their children to the standards of anon, rando internet trolls certainly is provocative. Other words to describe this thread are delusional, dumb, and ignorant.

Nobody decides for kids but their parents. Don’t like that simple fact? It’s a you problem.

Who on this thread has "demanded" that other people raise their kids in a certain way?

Ah of course. No OP just posing the open minded question, brainwashing: good or bad?

(DP)

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it works to teach young kids multiple religions. It's already hard enough to teach one religion. I think the best that you can hope for is that your kid is flexible enough that when he/she gets older, he/she can be open-minded enough to learn about other religions. This requires teaching a kid nuance and the fact that the world is complicated and simplistic theories aren't always correct in practice, which is a non-trivial thing.

Teaching things to kids in narrative form (as religion does) works well because humans take to narratives very easily. Telling a story to convey a message is the best way to teach young kids something. Trying to teach kids multiple religions is like trying to teach kids multiple, contradictory stories. It's not going to work, if only because it's confusing because kids don't actually have any sense of perspective. The first religion that you teach is going to provide the perspective/lens through which a kid will understand things. This idea of teaching kids multiple religions comes from adults who want a certain end result but who have forgotten what it's actually like to be a young kid.

Young kids are very malleable and trusting and are likely to believe whatever their parents tell them. The will believe in fantasies like the easter bunny and Santa Claus, but at some point when they're older, will stop believing.

Some children approach religion the same way. There is a growing number of adults who were taught religion as children who no longer believe as adults.

Young kids are malleable and trusting. That’s why their parents take care of them and raise them.

You are hostile to religion and want to tell parents how to raise their children. If you had any power you might be dangerous. Thankfully, you are just another atheist troll.

Have your own kids and raise them as you wish. You have no right to judge another family on their choices. Worry about yourself. If you don’t like how your parents raised you, seek therapy.

As pp states: "Young kids are malleable and trusting. That’s why their parents take care of them and raise them."

PP is hostile to non-religious people and wants to tell parents how to raise their children. If pp had any power, they might be dangerous. Thankfully, pp just a religious troll.

As pp says: "Have your own kids and raise them as you wish. You have no right to judge another family on their choices. Worry about yourself. If you don’t like how your parents raised you, seek therapy."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most people don’t know how to teach morality without religion.

That's because there is no morality without religion.

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Anonymous wrote:Most people don’t know how to teach morality without religion.

That's because there is no morality without religion.

Gosh I hope you are trolling. Let me know if you genuinely believe that, but be prepared for the response.

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Anonymous wrote:Most people don’t know how to teach morality without religion.

That's because there is no morality without religion.

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Anonymous wrote:I get the how useful it is for humans to have morality and love of God but find it questionable to teach kids about just one religion because that's what I was taught by my parents who were taught by theirs.

I wonder if as parents its our responsibility to introduce them to all major religions, as well as concepts of agnosticism and atheism?

We did that. Christianity won.

Christianity won quickly and effectively. The other “religions” were overwhelmed and relegated to obscurity. The people posting here who are hostile to Christianity are historically ignorant and do not realize that fact. We are speaking of the Western world in this context.

The flip side is hostile to Christianity/religion posters know this, and are gnashing their teeth with impotent rage. Thus, the “we should teach everyone’s kids about all religions! IT’S NOT FAIR” posters whining here very often.

No: if you want to offer an alternative and want that alternative populated significantly, go for it. I suspect that people understand that and thus the hatred here exhibited for Christianity.

The poster who repeatedly mentions the decline of Christianity in the United States will post soon. Ok.

Check out the growth Christianity im Africa, Asia. Christianity is growing worldwide. A humble carpenter was tortured and executed by His corrupt government- but He lives all over the world today. Amen!

(That ties in with the “we should ban all missionaries” posts that rear their delusional thread heads here often. No, we aren’t going to ban missionaries. You don’t get to dictate to the world what is done because you disagree with something.)

It’s not delusional to point out how unethical some missionaries are.

And some ”belief systems” spread faster than others. eg. Q

Your personal hostility towards Christianity does not mean Christian missionaries are unethical. The world operates on a scale that may or may not coincide with your personal ethical standards. That you don’t comprehend that fact is also a you problem.

Again- no child or adult, parent or otherwise -worldwide-has to agree with you or what you choose to believe. You have no right to decide anything for anyone but yourself. You have no power to choose anything for anyone. You are in charge of you. You are in charge of your minor child/children. Other people are in charge of themselves and their minor child/children.

Stop trying to force your values/morals/choices on people. It’s delusional and you need to realize that. It’s borderline pathological to believe you have any power to do these things.

To OP -- Thanks for asking a provocative question that has generated many thoughtful responses.

Yes, pretending you (or anyone else) has the right or responsibility to demand parents raise their children to the standards of anon, rando internet trolls certainly is provocative. Other words to describe this thread are delusional, dumb, and ignorant.

Nobody decides for kids but their parents. Don’t like that simple fact? It’s a you problem.

Who on this thread has "demanded" that other people raise their kids in a certain way?

Ah of course. No OP just posing the open minded question, brainwashing: good or bad?

(DP)

It's a parenting website and people discuss various topics related to raising their kids.

No one is "demanding" that you do anything. If you are triggered by discussion then maybe avoid certain threads.

[Anonymous]

Faith is believing in what you cannot see. Giving your DC the gift of having a faith to believe in is life altering. Op, you are the one that is brainwashed. You are brainwashed by your own convictions.

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Anonymous wrote:Faith is believing in what you cannot see. Giving your DC the gift of having a faith to believe in is life altering. Op, you are the one that is brainwashed. You are brainwashed by your own convictions.

What if the faith is in something that is not true? Would that still be a "gift"?

What are OPs convictions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Faith is believing in what you cannot see. Giving your DC the gift of having a faith to believe in is life altering. Op, you are the one that is brainwashed. You are brainwashed by your own convictions.

As parents, how you do know that you're giving them the right things to believe in blindly?

Do you want your kids to blindly believe anything trusted people tell them is true?

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Anonymous wrote:Most people don’t know how to teach morality without religion.

That's because there is no morality without religion.

Then how can my 1st grader have such a strong sense of morality even though she has not been taught any religious dogma? Her morals also do not align with any certain religious sect.

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Anonymous wrote:I get the how useful it is for humans to have morality and love of God but find it questionable to teach kids about just one religion because that's what I was taught by my parents who were taught by theirs.

I wonder if as parents its our responsibility to introduce them to all major religions, as well as concepts of agnosticism and atheism?

We did that. Christianity won.

Christianity won quickly and effectively. The other “religions” were overwhelmed and relegated to obscurity. The people posting here who are hostile to Christianity are historically ignorant and do not realize that fact. We are speaking of the Western world in this context.

The flip side is hostile to Christianity/religion posters know this, and are gnashing their teeth with impotent rage. Thus, the “we should teach everyone’s kids about all religions! IT’S NOT FAIR” posters whining here very often.

No: if you want to offer an alternative and want that alternative populated significantly, go for it. I suspect that people understand that and thus the hatred here exhibited for Christianity.

The poster who repeatedly mentions the decline of Christianity in the United States will post soon. Ok.

Check out the growth Christianity im Africa, Asia. Christianity is growing worldwide. A humble carpenter was tortured and executed by His corrupt government- but He lives all over the world today. Amen!

(That ties in with the “we should ban all missionaries” posts that rear their delusional thread heads here often. No, we aren’t going to ban missionaries. You don’t get to dictate to the world what is done because you disagree with something.)

It’s not delusional to point out how unethical some missionaries are.

And some ”belief systems” spread faster than others. eg. Q

Your personal hostility towards Christianity does not mean Christian missionaries are unethical. The world operates on a scale that may or may not coincide with your personal ethical standards. That you don’t comprehend that fact is also a you problem.

Again- no child or adult, parent or otherwise -worldwide-has to agree with you or what you choose to believe. You have no right to decide anything for anyone but yourself. You have no power to choose anything for anyone. You are in charge of you. You are in charge of your minor child/children. Other people are in charge of themselves and their minor child/children.

Stop trying to force your values/morals/choices on people. It’s delusional and you need to realize that. It’s borderline pathological to believe you have any power to do these things.

To OP -- Thanks for asking a provocative question that has generated many thoughtful responses.

Yes, pretending you (or anyone else) has the right or responsibility to demand parents raise their children to the standards of anon, rando internet trolls certainly is provocative. Other words to describe this thread are delusional, dumb, and ignorant.

Nobody decides for kids but their parents. Don’t like that simple fact? It’s a you problem.

Who on this thread has "demanded" that other people raise their kids in a certain way?

Ah of course. No OP just posing the open minded question, brainwashing: good or bad?

(DP)

It's a parenting website and people discuss various topics related to raising their kids.

No one is "demanding" that you do anything. If you are triggered by discussion then maybe avoid certain threads.

So if I say “anyone who sends their kid to public school is harming their child” that’s just discussing a topic? Interesting.

[Anonymous]

All of raising a kid is brainwashing by OP's definition. We had our kids to soccer instead of swimming because the hours were better. We enrolled DC in language immersion for elementary because we like the idea of speaking a foreign language. So shoot us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I get the how useful it is for humans to have morality and love of God but find it questionable to teach kids about just one religion because that's what I was taught by my parents who were taught by theirs.

I wonder if as parents it’s our responsibility to introduce them to all major religions, as well as concepts of agnosticism and atheism?

That is what we did. We raised them in a UU congregation.

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Anonymous wrote:Most people don’t know how to teach morality without religion.

That's because there is no morality without religion.

Then how can my 1st grader have such a strong sense of morality even though she has not been taught any religious dogma? Her morals also do not align with any certain religious sect.

Do they differ from yours in any way? If so, which ways?