HYPSM Penn/Duke/Caltech, mayyybe Berkeley Wash U/Columbia/Cornell/Notre Dame etc |
| Duke has no business being in the top 10, just look at their individual academic programs and make up your own mind. |
Those tiers don’t apply to banking and consulting. Penn is considerably higher than Duke in that regard. Top tier. Duke is lower tier. Anyone with experience in those industries would know this. |
Every ranking I have seen places them same . But Duke preps you better |
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| As a distant observer, I just think it's funny how many people on here trash Duke haha |
Duke is like that person who shows up to the party without an invite and it gets awkward. |
Columbia is the one who struggles socially but got a pity invite. Everyone can tell they don't belong. |
Which ones? Most of the subject ratings are graduate program ratings, not undergraduate. Duke has top 10 outcomes for undergraduates. |
+1 their mainstay is their undergrad program which is why it's a great place for college. They're also surrounded by many top 10 graduate programs which doesn't hurt either. |
Finance (from WSJ): 1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology $48,051 4.09% $144,802 $19,998 2 Harvard University $39,879 8.84% $136,630 $18,037 3 Princeton University $39,094 9.75% $135,845 $18,685 4 University of Pennsylvania $39,092 12.65% $135,843 $24,167 5 Dartmouth College $37,768 9.02% $134,519 $24,525 6 Yale University $34,148 8.58% $130,899 $17,386 7 Columbia University in the City of New York $33,354 10.22% $130,105 $22,126 8 Duke University $32,568 7.80% $129,319 $26,932 9 Middlebury College $32,326 6.68% $129,077 $24,517 10 University of Chicago $31,833 7.69% $128,584 $36,584 |
Consulting (WSJ): RANK COLLEGE ANNUAL SALARY PREMIUM MANAGEMENT CONSULTING % OF GRADUATES AVERAGE YEARLY SALARY 2019-2020 AVERAGE NET PRICE 1 Harvard University $61,042 7.59% $155,051 $18,037 2 Massachusetts Institute of Technology $58,083 4.11% $152,092 $19,998 3 Princeton University $56,117 6.38% $150,126 $18,685 4 Yale University $53,192 7.37% $147,201 $17,386 5 Dartmouth College $50,950 6.14% $144,959 $24,525 6 Stanford University $48,290 4.47% $142,299 $20,023 7 Duke University $44,985 5.56% $138,994 $26,932 8 University of Pennsylvania $44,344 6.19% $138,353 $24,167 9 Williams College $42,627 4.92% $136,636 $22,356 10 Rice University $42,025 4.15% $136,034 $19,215 |
Graduate school rankings are generally the best measure of academics for a department. If a school does not rank well in a subject for graduate school, well that reflects on the quality of faculty and graduate students teaching undergraduate courses. The graduate school rankings are directly linked to the undergraduate programs. |
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I think Duke graduates are inherently VERY strong. Compare favorably to HYPS, if not peers.
However, education quality is good, but not deserving of top 10 status. |
I did this yesterday and came to the same conclusion. |