HOS Salary and Teacher Pay

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Anonymous wrote:I can see families leaving because their values are conservative, but for GDS to tell families they can leave because they want equitable compensation for teachers and staff relative to their HOS is ugly.

Where is GDS telling families to leave?

i've seen families leave over the years and #1 reason is costs and lack of financial aid covering full need. Will see another decent amount of this in coming year

I've not heard of anyone leaving for politics reasons but pretty much every parent event I go to ends up in a flavor of this topic of how the school has changed in last 3-4 years, how HOS makes so much money, and college outcomes have been so poor in last few years vs. NYC/LA peer schools

Financial situations change and GDS is a luxury. I don't see what families leaving due to finances has to do with GDS telling families to leave

I don't know, lower the HOS salary, spread around the money to teachers and maybe reduce the tuition a bit.

Even if you zero out the HOS salary, that only saves each kid 1k

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see families leaving because their values are conservative, but for GDS to tell families they can leave because they want equitable compensation for teachers and staff relative to their HOS is ugly.

Where is GDS telling families to leave?

i've seen families leave over the years and #1 reason is costs and lack of financial aid covering full need. Will see another decent amount of this in coming year

I've not heard of anyone leaving for politics reasons but pretty much every parent event I go to ends up in a flavor of this topic of how the school has changed in last 3-4 years, how HOS makes so much money, and college outcomes have been so poor in last few years vs. NYC/LA peer schools

Financial situations change and GDS is a luxury. I don't see what families leaving due to finances has to do with GDS telling families to leave

I don't know, lower the HOS salary, spread around the money to teachers and maybe reduce the tuition a bit.

Oh my goodness, no! Reducing tuition would only attract the wrong element. Not that anyone actually says that part out loud, of course. Diversity, equity and inclusion - yay!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see families leaving because their values are conservative, but for GDS to tell families they can leave because they want equitable compensation for teachers and staff relative to their HOS is ugly.

Where is GDS telling families to leave?

i've seen families leave over the years and #1 reason is costs and lack of financial aid covering full need. Will see another decent amount of this in coming year

I've not heard of anyone leaving for politics reasons but pretty much every parent event I go to ends up in a flavor of this topic of how the school has changed in last 3-4 years, how HOS makes so much money, and college outcomes have been so poor in last few years vs. NYC/LA peer schools

Since when did FA cover full need? I don't think that has ever been the case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have a very good friend who is a head in a different city and he makes a over $750k. And I have to say I see it’s an incredibly complex, 60-80 hours/week job, which not a lot of people could do, or are willing to do. Expertise in education and child welfare. Safety and security. Public relations. Responsible for all personnel decisions, hiring and firing everyone from CFOs to teachers to bus drivers. Legal issues of all sorts. Finances. Dealing with parents, teachers, and students non stop. Admissions. The list is endless. Everything falls at their feet. They are the CEO. They get paid what they do because that’s what the market says they’re worth.

Not the DC market. The question we’re discussing is why this one HOS is so overpaid

Thx OP. Not clear why you have such a myopic personal vendetta on one individual, or if you even have a student at the school. You seem deeply disturbed and unhappy, about something entirely out of your control. No amount of dcum posts by yourself will change it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see families leaving because their values are conservative, but for GDS to tell families they can leave because they want equitable compensation for teachers and staff relative to their HOS is ugly.

Where is GDS telling families to leave?

i've seen families leave over the years and #1 reason is costs and lack of financial aid covering full need. Will see another decent amount of this in coming year

I've not heard of anyone leaving for politics reasons but pretty much every parent event I go to ends up in a flavor of this topic of how the school has changed in last 3-4 years, how HOS makes so much money, and college outcomes have been so poor in last few years vs. NYC/LA peer schools

Financial situations change and GDS is a luxury. I don't see what families leaving due to finances has to do with GDS telling families to leave

I don't know, lower the HOS salary, spread around the money to teachers and maybe reduce the tuition a bit.

Oh my goodness, no! Reducing tuition would only attract the wrong element. Not that anyone actually says that part out loud, of course. Diversity, equity and inclusion - yay!!

Ridiculous. Maybe you should leave private school if you think that charging tuition is wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Financial situations change and GDS is a luxury. I don't see what families leaving due to finances has to do with GDS telling families to leave

I'll ask again, where has GDS told families to leave?

[Anonymous]

I’ve noticed that teachers at local privates attended more expensive, higher-ranking grad & undergrad schools than teachers at local publics, but are lower paid. I assume dealing with fewer behavioral issues & having more autonomy draw teachers to teach in private versus public. I also have a hunch that a lot of my children’s teachers are married to higher earners.

This is going to sound a bit tasteless, but I have met a couple teachers throughout my child’s time attending a big 3 that seemed to enjoy being in the proximity of powerful families. Especially in instances when their own kids were attending the school. There was a social climbing aspect to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve noticed that teachers at local privates attended more expensive, higher-ranking grad & undergrad schools than teachers at local publics, but are lower paid. I assume dealing with fewer behavioral issues & having more autonomy draw teachers to teach in private versus public. I also have a hunch that a lot of my children’s teachers are married to higher earners.

This is going to sound a bit tasteless, but I have met a couple teachers throughout my child’s time attending a big 3 that seemed to enjoy being in the proximity of powerful families. Especially in instances when their own kids were attending the school. There was a social climbing aspect to it.

This is such an awesome post for so many reasons. 😂

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Consider that no public school Superintendent around here makes moser than $350k, but has to manage organizations far larger and more complex, plus answer to elected officials and citizens.

HOS pay is outrageous and, frankly, embarrassing.

Public school supers???
What about their $10M+ annuity upon retirement at age 60? And taxpayer funded healthcare for life?

It’s a union job. All about the venues and no performance reviews or accountability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can see families leaving because their values are conservative, but for GDS to tell families they can leave because they want equitable compensation for teachers and staff relative to their HOS is ugly.

Where is GDS telling families to leave?

Unclear what OPs ask is. Nothing really. Nothing new here at all. Get over it. People at the top of their professions make more income. BFD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve noticed that teachers at local privates attended more expensive, higher-ranking grad & undergrad schools than teachers at local publics, but are lower paid. I assume dealing with fewer behavioral issues & having more autonomy draw teachers to teach in private versus public. I also have a hunch that a lot of my children’s teachers are married to higher earners.

This is going to sound a bit tasteless, but I have met a couple teachers throughout my child’s time attending a big 3 that seemed to enjoy being in the proximity of powerful families. Especially in instances when their own kids were attending the school. There was a social climbing aspect to it.

This is such an awesome post for so many reasons. 😂

It’s accurate - NP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Consider that no public school Superintendent around here makes moser than $350k, but has to manage organizations far larger and more complex, plus answer to elected officials and citizens.

HOS pay is outrageous and, frankly, embarrassing.

Public school supers???
What about their $10M+ annuity upon retirement at age 60? And taxpayer funded healthcare for life?

It’s a union job. All about the venues and no performance reviews or accountability.

There is no way I’d teach in a public school that doesn’t have a union & pension. So maybe look at it from that viewpoint.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve noticed that teachers at local privates attended more expensive, higher-ranking grad & undergrad schools than teachers at local publics, but are lower paid. I assume dealing with fewer behavioral issues & having more autonomy draw teachers to teach in private versus public. I also have a hunch that a lot of my children’s teachers are married to higher earners.

This is going to sound a bit tasteless, but I have met a couple teachers throughout my child’s time attending a big 3 that seemed to enjoy being in the proximity of powerful families. Especially in instances when their own kids were attending the school. There was a social climbing aspect to it.

This is such an awesome post for so many reasons. 😂

It’s accurate - NP

LOL, whatever. Sounds like jelly on your part.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a very good friend who is a head in a different city and he makes a over $750k. And I have to say I see it’s an incredibly complex, 60-80 hours/week job, which not a lot of people could do, or are willing to do. Expertise in education and child welfare. Safety and security. Public relations. Responsible for all personnel decisions, hiring and firing everyone from CFOs to teachers to bus drivers. Legal issues of all sorts. Finances. Dealing with parents, teachers, and students non stop. Admissions. The list is endless. Everything falls at their feet. They are the CEO. They get paid what they do because that’s what the market says they’re worth.

Their jobs are not harder than being the president of Harvard, who makes about the same amount. University presidents have to oversee colleges, graduate schools (medical, law, business, etc.), 1000s of students, faculty, staff, study abroad, federal grants, etc., etc. Why in the world a HS HOS has to earn the same amount as a university president is beyond me. And teachers in DC should be making enough money to save for retirement, a rainy day, and college (presumably a priority if you teach at a college prep school). You can't do that on $75K/year. What other HOS is earning that much? And if so, what are their teachers and staff being paid relative?

They are dealing with minors which brings on an entire different level of responsibility. Also, PK-12 are 100x more demanding than college parents. Those are literally just a couple of distinctions, but there are many many more.

That being said, I do think that teachers should get paid more.

[Anonymous]

HOS are CEO/COO of multi-million dollar businesses and in the event of GDS, total assets: over 300,000 million. The responsibility for a HOS is that of a multi-million dollar company. Why doesn't anyone argue that Jeff Bezos makes ..... and he has employees that make $15/hr? Lay off the schools...