HOS Salary and Teacher Pay

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a very good friend who is a head in a different city and he makes a over $750k. And I have to say I see it’s an incredibly complex, 60-80 hours/week job, which not a lot of people could do, or are willing to do. Expertise in education and child welfare. Safety and security. Public relations. Responsible for all personnel decisions, hiring and firing everyone from CFOs to teachers to bus drivers. Legal issues of all sorts. Finances. Dealing with parents, teachers, and students non stop. Admissions. The list is endless. Everything falls at their feet. They are the CEO. They get paid what they do because that’s what the market says they’re worth.

Their jobs are not harder than being the president of Harvard, who makes about the same amount. University presidents have to oversee colleges, graduate schools (medical, law, business, etc.), 1000s of students, faculty, staff, study abroad, federal grants, etc., etc. Why in the world a HS HOS has to earn the same amount as a university president is beyond me. And teachers in DC should be making enough money to save for retirement, a rainy day, and college (presumably a priority if you teach at a college prep school). You can't do that on $75K/year. What other HOS is earning that much? And if so, what are their teachers and staff being paid relative?

Universities have huge administrative staff numbers. I have kids in a school where the head makes a crazy high salary and I’m ok with it given what he deals with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a very good friend who is a head in a different city and he makes a over $750k. And I have to say I see it’s an incredibly complex, 60-80 hours/week job, which not a lot of people could do, or are willing to do. Expertise in education and child welfare. Safety and security. Public relations. Responsible for all personnel decisions, hiring and firing everyone from CFOs to teachers to bus drivers. Legal issues of all sorts. Finances. Dealing with parents, teachers, and students non stop. Admissions. The list is endless. Everything falls at their feet. They are the CEO. They get paid what they do because that’s what the market says they’re worth.

Not the DC market. The question we’re discussing is why this one HOS is so overpaid

[Anonymous]

can you imagine if you hopped on dcum and saw a post specifically about why you are getting paid so much, and are you worth it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:can you imagine if you hopped on dcum and saw a post specifically about why you are getting paid so much, and are you worth it?

Why not? DCUM are the customers who pay the salaries

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:can you imagine if you hopped on dcum and saw a post specifically about why you are getting paid so much, and are you worth it?

I was thinking the exact same thing. Imagine if every aspect of your job performance plus salary was subject to discussion on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A teacher with a master’s degree and 15 years of experience might make 75 while a HOS makes at least 400, sometimes 600 or 800 at k-12 schools.

Unless it’s GDS, where the salary is 7 figures

But he doesn’t have housing included like some others here do. Or the other perks?

Either way, if you’re so hung up on this, why don’t you go get some grad degrees in education administration, bolster your people and collaboration skills, fine tune your speaking, and start out your School Leadership resume. There are bespoke headhunters who can help you once you get some of the prereqs down.
Best of luck.

[Anonymous]

I teach at a private K-8 and not only can I not afford private with our "discounts" for my DCPS kids, I can't figure out how we will pay for college yet. It does get hard serving these kids some days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:can you imagine if you hopped on dcum and saw a post specifically about why you are getting paid so much, and are you worth it?

op posts this garbage all the time.

They flunked out on econ 101 so are self-majoring in Petty DCUM Posts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, are people okay with this level of compensation?

I know! They should just go hire Joe Schmoe teacher for $150k and call it a day. Roles & responsibilities be damned. Qualifications Smallifications.
Why isn’t everyone paid the same exact thing. We all have the same Human Capital Earnings function- same education, same grades, same work ethic, same abilities, same quality of education, same work experience and quality, same same same!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a very good friend who is a head in a different city and he makes a over $750k. And I have to say I see it’s an incredibly complex, 60-80 hours/week job, which not a lot of people could do, or are willing to do. Expertise in education and child welfare. Safety and security. Public relations. Responsible for all personnel decisions, hiring and firing everyone from CFOs to teachers to bus drivers. Legal issues of all sorts. Finances. Dealing with parents, teachers, and students non stop. Admissions. The list is endless. Everything falls at their feet. They are the CEO. They get paid what they do because that’s what the market says they’re worth.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a very good friend who is a head in a different city and he makes a over $750k. And I have to say I see it’s an incredibly complex, 60-80 hours/week job, which not a lot of people could do, or are willing to do. Expertise in education and child welfare. Safety and security. Public relations. Responsible for all personnel decisions, hiring and firing everyone from CFOs to teachers to bus drivers. Legal issues of all sorts. Finances. Dealing with parents, teachers, and students non stop. Admissions. The list is endless. Everything falls at their feet. They are the CEO. They get paid what they do because that’s what the market says they’re worth.

Not the DC market. The question we’re discussing is why this one HOS is so overpaid

And in every major city, at the very finest, most prestigious schools, there is a head who makes an awful lot of money such as at GDS. He is responsible for maintaining the reputation of the school, maintaining enrollment, managing a budget, and countless other decisions and responsibilities day in and day out. He seems to be doing it really well, so to retain him, GDS will pay him top dollar. That is the free market. And I voted for Bernie, but this is still a capitalistic society.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I teach at a private K-8 and not only can I not afford private with our "discounts" for my DCPS kids, I can't figure out how we will pay for college yet. It does get hard serving these kids some days.

Why not switch to public?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have a very good friend who is a head in a different city and he makes a over $750k. And I have to say I see it’s an incredibly complex, 60-80 hours/week job, which not a lot of people could do, or are willing to do. Expertise in education and child welfare. Safety and security. Public relations. Responsible for all personnel decisions, hiring and firing everyone from CFOs to teachers to bus drivers. Legal issues of all sorts. Finances. Dealing with parents, teachers, and students non stop. Admissions. The list is endless. Everything falls at their feet. They are the CEO. They get paid what they do because that’s what the market says they’re worth.

Their jobs are not harder than being the president of Harvard, who makes about the same amount. University presidents have to oversee colleges, graduate schools (medical, law, business, etc.), 1000s of students, faculty, staff, study abroad, federal grants, etc., etc. Why in the world a HS HOS has to earn the same amount as a university president is beyond me. And teachers in DC should be making enough money to save for retirement, a rainy day, and college (presumably a priority if you teach at a college prep school). You can't do that on $75K/year. What other HOS is earning that much? And if so, what are their teachers and staff being paid relative?

I would say head of school and university president are two completely different jobs. A university has a much bigger budget and a much broader administration staff. I doubt the university president does a ton of work in the trenches the way a head of school with 300 to 800 students does. Plus the issues when you have students between the ages of six and 18 are different than 18 and 30. That all said, are university presidents over or underpaid? How about HoS? I say no. They’re both paid what the market says they’re worth.

[Anonymous]

And yes, teachers deserve better and deserve more.

[Anonymous]

The biggest joke is the HOS at SAES makes over 440K. To head a school that ranks that low...