Disappointed by TJ decision?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Please remember TJ is a STEM oriented school. And while M is for Math, it also underpins the STE in a big way.

These results show that some of the best STEM applicants are no longer being accepted.





Not all areas let kids accelerate to algebra in 6th even if kids could do it. DD I think would have been able to do it as she was normally breezing through AAP 6th math in short order but her school just did not have a system set up to test who could take algebra in 6th and place them in it. (We’re in SS zones so 6th was ES still). TJ is now pulling from a lot of areas of the county that likewise I think did not really have a pathway for this even if kids could handle it.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please remember TJ is a STEM oriented school. And while M is for Math, it also underpins the STE in a big way.

These results show that some of the best STEM applicants are no longer being accepted.




Your assumption is that acceleration == merit is faulty.

Your assumption that I was claiming acceleration == merit is faulty.


Then why do you keep claiming it?then why do you keep claiming it?
Anonymous
can we ask FCPS to review DC's application? TY
Anonymous
DC is waitlisted. Is the waitlist school specific? If a kid from DC’s school declines then would DC stand a chance? Or is it all counties and schools combined waitlist?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:can we ask FCPS to review DC's application? TY

They already did didn’t they?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please remember TJ is a STEM oriented school. And while M is for Math, it also underpins the STE in a big way.

These results show that some of the best STEM applicants are no longer being accepted.





Not all areas let kids accelerate to algebra in 6th even if kids could do it. DD I think would have been able to do it as she was normally breezing through AAP 6th math in short order but her school just did not have a system set up to test who could take algebra in 6th and place them in it. (We’re in SS zones so 6th was ES still). TJ is now pulling from a lot of areas of the county that likewise I think did not really have a pathway for this even if kids could handle it.



Yes, I believe that's only an option at the high-income areas. Those options don't exist at Title 1 schools even if a kid is the next Gauss.
Anonymous
Get over it, just as you’ll have to get over the UVA “waitlist.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Please remember TJ is a STEM oriented school. And while M is for Math, it also underpins the STE in a big way.

These results show that some of the best STEM applicants are no longer being accepted.





Where one can find this chart?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DC is waitlisted. Is the waitlist school specific? If a kid from DC’s school declines then would DC stand a chance? Or is it all counties and schools combined waitlist?


it's not school spoecific. All school competes for the open seat, should one decline.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC is waitlisted. Is the waitlist school specific? If a kid from DC’s school declines then would DC stand a chance? Or is it all counties and schools combined waitlist?


it's not school spoecific. All school competes for the open seat, should one decline.


Can you provide a citation for this? I think they take from the same school first, if that school hasn't exceeded it's 1.5% quota.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC is waitlisted. Is the waitlist school specific? If a kid from DC’s school declines then would DC stand a chance? Or is it all counties and schools combined waitlist?


it's not school spoecific. All school competes for the open seat, should one decline.


Can you provide a citation for this? I think they take from the same school first, if that school hasn't exceeded it's 1.5% quota.


https://www.fcps.edu/registration/thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-admissions/tjhsst-freshman
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC is waitlisted. Is the waitlist school specific? If a kid from DC’s school declines then would DC stand a chance? Or is it all counties and schools combined waitlist?


it's not school spoecific. All school competes for the open seat, should one decline.


Can you provide a citation for this? I think they take from the same school first, if that school hasn't exceeded it's 1.5% quota.


https://www.fcps.edu/registration/thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-admissions/tjhsst-freshman

Waitpool: A waitpool of students will be created to offer additional students an opportunity to attend TJHSST when admitted applicants decline the offer of admission. Offers of admissions to students who have accepted to stay in the waitpool will be provided to the highest evaluated students remaining in the waitpool. Waitpool offers will continue to be made until all seats have been filled or until the beginning of the school year, which occurs first.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Please remember TJ is a STEM oriented school. And while M is for Math, it also underpins the STE in a big way.

These results show that some of the best STEM applicants are no longer being accepted.





This may not have anything to do with admission changes. Remember we had a pandemic that greatly affected learning?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please remember TJ is a STEM oriented school. And while M is for Math, it also underpins the STE in a big way.

These results show that some of the best STEM applicants are no longer being accepted.





This may not have anything to do with admission changes. Remember we had a pandemic that greatly affected learning?


True and lower income schools typically don't have the same opportunities for acceleration, not to mention the outside enrichment that many post about like AoPS, RSM etc etc. This chart if anything indicates that selection is more equitable. A gifted kid from a low-income area may be a complete genius but lacked many of the same opportunities that parents at wealthy schools take for granted. To me this is a good sign that our tax dollars are going to support all gifted residents not just the scion of the wealthy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please remember TJ is a STEM oriented school. And while M is for Math, it also underpins the STE in a big way.

These results show that some of the best STEM applicants are no longer being accepted.





This may not have anything to do with admission changes. Remember we had a pandemic that greatly affected learning?


True and lower income schools typically don't have the same opportunities for acceleration, not to mention the outside enrichment that many post about like AoPS, RSM etc etc. This chart if anything indicates that selection is more equitable. A gifted kid from a low-income area may be a complete genius but lacked many of the same opportunities that parents at wealthy schools take for granted. To me this is a good sign that our tax dollars are going to support all gifted residents not just the scion of the wealthy.

If the desire for an elite STEM school is equity, then yes, it appears the new process has done that.

If the desire is to accept the demonstrably best STEM students, then no, the new system doesn’t do that. And arguing that kids with accelerated math are privileged isn’t what I’m interested in arguing. I’m just pointing out the fact that math underpins advanced STEM topics and that this cohort is not as advanced as years past.

And we aren’t talking about the same group of kids where it may be questionable to take 7th grade algebra even though they scored a 95 on the IAAT because sometime acceleration isn’t the best answer for kids come 10th grade. We are talking about kids that are perfectly suited for Calc in 10th and will continue to drive the cohort even deeper into complex math and science through 11th and 12th.

Those numbers were basically halved and replaced by kids that can never achieve that, based on timeline alone. There may be a genius in the bunch that is taking algebra in 8th grade in a lower SES school, but arguably there was probably a genius in the group of kids that had already completed Algebra II.
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