I literally laughed out loud at this. |
I’m the original poster on this and no, we weren’t poor. In my early childhood years when my mom was home we were solidly working class in the 70s when that meant a nice house cars and plenty of food in the larder. Later when my mom went back to work we were solidly lower middle class. We had roasts and steaks and nice food at the weekend and pretty good food during the week. But yeah it was a protein two veg and a starch not much salad except in summer but you got what you got and that was that. My father was military retired the year I was born so he had spent decades eating what was put in front of him and didn’t think we needed any different. Complaining was not really tolerated but I laud those of you who allow more independent thinking, I truly do. |
Ha! Solidarity. They’re like raccoons. |
This is ridiculous. Dinner is not the only time where you can spend time with your kids. No wonders Americans are so fat. Think about your kids and stop judging other families… mine is wonderful and happy… full of love and memories. We are lucky to be able to afford all we can and still spend a lot of time with our kids (not at the diner table). Think about YOUR family. Mine is great |
Look, I have a sushi and Thai food loving 7 year old. One who ate a rotating list of some 5 foods total from age 1-5. For us, it was years of psychological warfare at the dinner table, and a refusal to ever introduce nuggets and Mac and cheese into the dinner rotation. But what you saw was a very non-representative sample of kids. Almost none of her friends like sushi and Thai food, and she still wouldn’t eat a cheeseburger if her life depended on it. |
DP who also doesn’t do family dinners because of late working DH. I’m a SAHM with no family nearby and never had childcare except for unavoidable situations. Believe me I spend more time with my kids than you do. DH sees the kids plenty because he doesn’t go in early, has lots of PTO, and sees them every evening, just not around a freakin dinner table. Do you or your spouse have to work very late? If you did, would you keep children up and make them wait to eat a very late dinner and have a subsequent late bedtime? That’s your choice of course, but can you not understand the choice to feed hungry children and maximize their sleep? |
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NP. Most of this isn't about food; it's about horrible manners and ingratitude, period. Do these same food-complaining kids also carp and complain about other things in their lives or other things you as parents do for them? I'm guessing yes. At 10 and 13, they need a harsh reality check, OP, unless you want all the middle school and high school years to be a nightmare. Family meeting, serious talking to about how this affects the entire family even though they think it's just "I'm hungry and I want X instead of Y." Then they start sitting with you to plan the shopping list, go shopping with you, and on weekends help you make a few dinners ahead of time for the week, things that can be frozen/refrigerated. I'm not saying spend every bit of Sat and Sun cooking or fill the freezer with seven dinners every single week. But they need to take more responsibility. And I know an earlier PP insisted your kids would never cook but if you make it non-negotiable and make their activities for the weekend contingent on their doing this, well, they'll figure it out the first time they miss soccer or whatever. Doing it ahead, on weekends, will prevent weeknight conflict for ALL of you. And for any complaining, treat it as an issue for discipline because it's incredibly rude. One warning; never cave in on a different food choice other than what THEY chose, prepped and served; and a second complaint means they instantly lose screen time or whatever they most value. Swift and consistent. I know it sounds like a lot of work to involve them and cook ahead. It IS a lot of work especially at first. But you need your spouse to pitch in big time and you both need to train them into some appreciation and gratitude now before they're older teens and it's too late. |
This is true for us too but I would not do dinners all together even if DH was home at 6 because I hate cooking and feeding my kids. I am not a SAHM, but have a very flexible job that allows me to take my kids to all their activities (lots of them because my kids are very athletic) and spend plenty of time with them. As I said, we take lots of vacations and spend 2 months every summer in Europe (DH for 1 month). I know I spend more time with my kids than most of the families I know because of my flexible job. On weekend we eat together every meal and I don’t find the time we spend at the table rewarding or important at all. Of course if I could only spend meaningful time with my kids at dinner, then I would feel differently about it. Thankfully, I can spend plenty of time talking to them and doing things together and have our nanny cooking and feeding them when we are back! |
YES! |
OMG. Yes! |
+1 exactly. The time around the dinner table isn’t special or unique. I guess if it were I might feel differently too. Honestly the times when I connect best with my kids are when we are in the car chatting or right before bed. I think forced dinner conversations are not the most open/comfortable for kids of many ages. |
Meal time is a huge family thing in a lot of countries. It’s not a US thing. It’s actually much more important in other cultures. |
I know and understand that, but why judging parents/family that prioritize other ways to spending time with their families? I don’t find it enjoyable and prefer to spend time with my kids doing other things… what’s the big deal? |
And honestly, from this thread, very few people enjoy it and can’t wait for it to be over…. How sad that time with kids has to be forced to fit into some kind of mold. Who says dinner together is important? Enjoy your kids and don’t eat together if you don’t enjoy it! Pay for someone to cook and feed them if you can afford it (like we do) |
| Make them start cooking. |