Interview with UC Berkeley Admissions Head on Affirmative Action

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Honestly, I could totally see someone who has only worked at private schools being unaware of all the rules and regulations that come into play when you are in the public sector.

The same goes for moving from private to government work in other fields.
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Anonymous wrote:To clarify, are they looking at AP course grades or AP exam scores?


Course work and course grades primarily each AP course is a 1 point GPA lift. B becomes A etc. with a cap on how many of those you can use

What I don’t know is whether they see the AP test scores too. Someone else might know.

He also mentions IB as being important for them as someone on todays UCLA thread said too


They do. All the colleges see all the scores via College Board


Colleges only see your scores if you submit them. if you don't submit scores, colleges don't see them during the application process.


UCs won’t look at sat or act. Will they look at AP Test scores? That’s the specific question


There is a section for reporting scores in additional information, you are required to report AP/IB scores if a test has been taken, and say whether you intend to take a test if it's in the future.

None of this is insider information, look at the application.
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Anonymous wrote:Merced and Riverside were explicitly opened to serve the Hispanic students of California and if you look at their numbers, they're doing that.

Riverside - 38% Hispanic or Latino
Merced - just over 30% Hispanic or Latino


Segregation isn't a thing anymore. Sorry, PP.

The good news is that you can send your kids to either school!


Where did anyone suggest this? You are off your rocker.
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Anonymous wrote:To clarify, are they looking at AP course grades or AP exam scores?


Course work and course grades primarily each AP course is a 1 point GPA lift. B becomes A etc. with a cap on how many of those you can use

What I don’t know is whether they see the AP test scores too. Someone else might know.

He also mentions IB as being important for them as someone on todays UCLA thread said too


They do. All the colleges see all the scores via College Board


Colleges only see your scores if you submit them. if you don't submit scores, colleges don't see them during the application process.


UCs won’t look at sat or act. Will they look at AP Test scores? That’s the specific question


There is a section for reporting scores in additional information, you are required to report AP/IB scores if a test has been taken, and say whether you intend to take a test if it's in the future.

None of this is insider information, look at the application.


Yes there's a section on the application, however you are NOT required to report AP test scores. Additional information section is optional. Bottom line despite your preference, colleges today are most interested in the actual grade from the AP class and the perceived rigor of the class eg. AP Calc > AP Stats. If you choose to report your test scores that could help if they're good. If not reported then they can't draw conclusions (if they're doing their job earnestly).
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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone even thought to look past the language and actually look at the stats? 3.4% AA, 14% Hispanic. That's a ridiculously low percentage of both given their percentages both in the country and especially the state for Hispanics. Why does anyone imagine that affirmative action has some major impact at Berkeley with such numbers?


The U.S. is about 19% Hispanic. Not a huge difference between that and 14%.


Yes, but Hispanics make up 39% of the population of California. Cal is a state school that is supposed to be drawing students from the state population….


What percentage are qualified to attend?


Apparently enough to upset you?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To clarify, are they looking at AP course grades or AP exam scores?


Course work and course grades primarily each AP course is a 1 point GPA lift. B becomes A etc. with a cap on how many of those you can use

What I don’t know is whether they see the AP test scores too. Someone else might know.

He also mentions IB as being important for them as someone on todays UCLA thread said too


They do. All the colleges see all the scores via College Board


Colleges only see your scores if you submit them. if you don't submit scores, colleges don't see them during the application process.


UCs won’t look at sat or act. Will they look at AP Test scores? That’s the specific question


There is a section for reporting scores in additional information, you are required to report AP/IB scores if a test has been taken, and say whether you intend to take a test if it's in the future.

None of this is insider information, look at the application.


Yes there's a section on the application, however you are NOT required to report AP test scores. Additional information section is optional. Bottom line despite your preference, colleges today are most interested in the actual grade from the AP class and the perceived rigor of the class eg. AP Calc > AP Stats. If you choose to report your test scores that could help if they're good. If not reported then they can't draw conclusions (if they're doing their job earnestly).


Definitively not my preference, I discouraged my kids from taking the AP exams in most cases. We are in state California.
This is the website wording:

AP exams, IB exams, TOEFL or IELTS and International exams: You will be asked about each of these exams on separate pages in the test score section. You’ll need to report your scores if you’ve already taken an exam or indicate if you’re planning on taking an exam in the future.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To clarify, are they looking at AP course grades or AP exam scores?


Course work and course grades primarily each AP course is a 1 point GPA lift. B becomes A etc. with a cap on how many of those you can use

What I don’t know is whether they see the AP test scores too. Someone else might know.

He also mentions IB as being important for them as someone on todays UCLA thread said too


They do. All the colleges see all the scores via College Board


Colleges only see your scores if you submit them. if you don't submit scores, colleges don't see them during the application process.


UCs won’t look at sat or act. Will they look at AP Test scores? That’s the specific question


There is a section for reporting scores in additional information, you are required to report AP/IB scores if a test has been taken, and say whether you intend to take a test if it's in the future.

None of this is insider information, look at the application.


Yes there's a section on the application, however you are NOT required to report AP test scores. Additional information section is optional. Bottom line despite your preference, colleges today are most interested in the actual grade from the AP class and the perceived rigor of the class eg. AP Calc > AP Stats. If you choose to report your test scores that could help if they're good. If not reported then they can't draw conclusions (if they're doing their job earnestly).
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If you don't report your AP exam score you don't get the GPA bump for having done the class. This is UC admission requirements.
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:To clarify, are they looking at AP course grades or AP exam scores?


Course work and course grades primarily each AP course is a 1 point GPA lift. B becomes A etc. with a cap on how many of those you can use

What I don’t know is whether they see the AP test scores too. Someone else might know.

He also mentions IB as being important for them as someone on todays UCLA thread said too


They do. All the colleges see all the scores via College Board


Colleges only see your scores if you submit them. if you don't submit scores, colleges don't see them during the application process.


UCs won’t look at sat or act. Will they look at AP Test scores? That’s the specific question


There is a section for reporting scores in additional information, you are required to report AP/IB scores if a test has been taken, and say whether you intend to take a test if it's in the future.

None of this is insider information, look at the application.


Yes there's a section on the application, however you are NOT required to report AP test scores. Additional information section is optional. Bottom line despite your preference, colleges today are most interested in the actual grade from the AP class and the perceived rigor of the class eg. AP Calc > AP Stats. If you choose to report your test scores that could help if they're good. If not reported then they can't draw conclusions (if they're doing their job earnestly).
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If you don't report your AP exam score you don't get the GPA bump for having done the class. This is UC admission requirements.


Nope, see no evidence of that, entirely about being designated as an AP/IB course (or actually being a college course). In state honors courses also get a gpa bump.

2. Give yourself an extra point for each semester of a UC honors-level course, with a maximum of 8 points between 10th and 11th grades.
For California residents:

Honors courses are Advanced Placement (AP), International Baccalaureate Higher Level (IB HL) and designated Standard Level (IB SL) courses, UC-transferable college courses and UC-certified honors courses that appear on your school's course list.
For 10th grade, you cannot use more than 4 honors points.
Grades of D or F in an honors course do not earn an extra point.
Grades of CR (credit) or P (pass) in an honors course do not earn an extra point.
Classes taken during the summer after 9th grade count as 10th grade; classes in summer after 10th grade count as 10th grade; classes in summer after 11th grade count as 11th grade.
One college course = one grade = one honors point.

Nonresidents:

UC will grant honors weight for AP or IB courses and transferable college courses only, but not for school-designated honors courses. The weight is given to letter grades of A, B, or C.


Also, this:

Although the College Board reports all AP test results to us, students should be aware AP test scores lower than 3 will not adversely affect their chances for admission.
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