Longfellow SO Golden Ticket to TJ - is this true?

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Interesting that Longfellow and Carson continue to outperform Cooper even though Cooper is wealthier.

Longfellow has historically dominated Mathcounts, except for a couple of years where there were a handful math prodigies at Basis. I think they have a system to produce good mathcounts results

The common thread was Vern Williams. He's at Nysmith now, if memory serves.

Vern Williams left Longfellow years ago. Maybe he left a legacy but he hasn’t been a teacher there for quite a while.

He's been at Nysmith since 2021. If it was just him, Nysmith would have jumped up in math contest wins the past 2 years - but it hasn't. He built a good program at Longfellow, which is now running well without him. His success at Basis were bolstered by a couple of math prodigies. But it will take him a few years to build such a program at Nysmith.

These private schools take so much money from parents and they need a public school teacher to improve their teams? Now you know why private is worthless

This statement/question doesn’t make sense.

Seems clear to me.

Explain it then.

I think their meaning is self-evident but if you can't figure it out, it would be lost on you anyway.

hat they are saying is that public schools can’t produce/have better teachers than private schools

No, I think they are saying the opposite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Longfellow SO won the state competition again today. Will be interesting see if the School Board members falling all over themselves to congratulate the Madison and Hayfield basketball teams will pay any attention to a team composed mostly of Asian kids winning a state academic championship.

They've never cared as much about academics as they do sports. But feel free to make it about race if that feeds your need to be a martyr.

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Anonymous wrote:Longfellow SO won the state competition again today. Will be interesting see if the School Board members falling all over themselves to congratulate the Madison and Hayfield basketball teams will pay any attention to a team composed mostly of Asian kids winning a state academic championship.

They've never cared as much about academics as they do sports. But feel free to make it about race if that feeds your need to be a martyr.

Gee, I wonder why that is.

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Anonymous wrote:Longfellow SO won the state competition again today. Will be interesting see if the School Board members falling all over themselves to congratulate the Madison and Hayfield basketball teams will pay any attention to a team composed mostly of Asian kids winning a state academic championship.

They've never cared as much about academics as they do sports. But feel free to make it about race if that feeds your need to be a martyr.

Gee, I wonder why that is.

I was on a team many years ago that won state in an academic contest. Nobody cared then either .Our culture values high school sports more than academics.

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Anonymous wrote:Longfellow SO won the state competition again today. Will be interesting see if the School Board members falling all over themselves to congratulate the Madison and Hayfield basketball teams will pay any attention to a team composed mostly of Asian kids winning a state academic championship.

They've never cared as much about academics as they do sports. But feel free to make it about race if that feeds your need to be a martyr.

Gee, I wonder why that is.

I was on a team many years ago that won state in an academic contest. Nobody cared then either .Our culture values high school sports more than academics.

Shameful.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s your experience?

I’ve heard that especially for girls, all the female SO at Longfellow were accepted to TJ.

So what was the result?

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Anonymous wrote:Longfellow SO won the state competition again today. Will be interesting see if the School Board members falling all over themselves to congratulate the Madison and Hayfield basketball teams will pay any attention to a team composed mostly of Asian kids winning a state academic championship.

They've never cared as much about academics as they do sports. But feel free to make it about race if that feeds your need to be a martyr.

Gee, I wonder why that is.

I was on a team many years ago that won state in an academic contest. Nobody cared then either .Our culture values high school sports more than academics.

I was in high school many decades ago and this was true then. Was on an academic school team and won some high honors. The school board gave us what they called "academic letters" to put on our letterman jackets. Unfortunately, none of us nerds (I use the term affectionately) owned a jacket. Seemed funny that the school board seemed to view our accomplishment through the lense of athletic achievement.

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Five pages on this topic and not one person has pointed out the extracurriculars do not matter for TJ admissions. Please look at the new rules and educate yourself. Your kid could win the Nobel prize for physics and it will not increase their chance for admittance. Top 1.5% at your kids school are automatic. Then a small added boost if you are an economically underpriveiedged kid. Your kid also needs a 3.5 GPA and needs to pass an easy admissions test and write an essay. Then they are basically pulling names out of a hat. Prepping and extracurriculars mean nothing now.

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Anonymous wrote:Five pages on this topic and not one person has pointed out the extracurriculars do not matter for TJ admissions. Please look at the new rules and educate yourself. Your kid could win the Nobel prize for physics and it will not increase their chance for admittance. Top 1.5% at your kids school are automatic. Then a small added boost if you are an economically underpriveiedged kid. Your kid also needs a 3.5 GPA and needs to pass an easy admissions test and write an essay. Then they are basically pulling names out of a hat. Prepping and extracurriculars mean nothing now.

Except if you win SO or Mathcounts you're totally in.

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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Five pages on this topic and not one person has pointed out the extracurriculars do not matter for TJ admissions. Please look at the new rules and educate yourself. Your kid could win the Nobel prize for physics and it will not increase their chance for admittance. Top 1.5% at your kids school are automatic. Then a small added boost if you are an economically underpriveiedged kid. Your kid also needs a 3.5 GPA and needs to pass an easy admissions test and write an essay. Then they are basically pulling names out of a hat. Prepping and extracurriculars mean nothing now.[/quote]

Except if you win SO or Mathcounts you're totally in.[/quote]

SO has nothing to do with Tj admissions, but students in SO are also those who are good enough to be offered to Tj, it is totally coincidental.

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Anonymous wrote:Five pages on this topic and not one person has pointed out the extracurriculars do not matter for TJ admissions. Please look at the new rules and educate yourself. Your kid could win the Nobel prize for physics and it will not increase their chance for admittance. Top 1.5% at your kids school are automatic. Then a small added boost if you are an economically underpriveiedged kid. Your kid also needs a 3.5 GPA and needs to pass an easy admissions test and write an essay. Then they are basically pulling names out of a hat. Prepping and extracurriculars mean nothing now.

Except if you win SO or Mathcounts you're totally in.

Perhaps in the sophomore round which has a different admissions committee. It doesn't guarantee anything for the regular admissions.
It is not correct to say that extracurriculars mean nothing, but you have to be able to explain them in an essay. Someone whose extracurricular is tutoring would likely be at an advantage over a MathCounts winner.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s your experience?

I’ve heard that especially for girls, all the female SO at Longfellow were accepted to TJ.

My son was in Longfellow SO Last year and made it to TJ. FCPS has no data if the child did SO so they have to include as relevant in SPS questions.

Longfellow had 40 to TJ which was about 5-6%. About 60 went from Carson

Getting into TJ Longfellow is very very competitive

Your information regarding the # of MS students from both Carson an Longfellow is incorrect.

Source: https://www.fcps.edu/news/thomas-jefferson-high-school-continues-increase-access-all

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What’s your experience?

I’ve heard that especially for girls, all the female SO at Longfellow were accepted to TJ.

Some people will tell you it isn't because they don't want you to know the truth, but SO is almost guarantee. My kid wasn't even top of the team and got in.

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Anonymous wrote:Five pages on this topic and not one person has pointed out the extracurriculars do not matter for TJ admissions. Please look at the new rules and educate yourself. Your kid could win the Nobel prize for physics and it will not increase their chance for admittance. Top 1.5% at your kids school are automatic. Then a small added boost if you are an economically underpriveiedged kid. Your kid also needs a 3.5 GPA and needs to pass an easy admissions test and write an essay. Then they are basically pulling names out of a hat. Prepping and extracurriculars mean nothing now.

Except if you win SO or Mathcounts you're totally in.

I heard that Mr. H. who heads up the Mathcounts is leaving at the end of this year. He is one of the best math teachers in the county. So glad my DC had a chance to be in one of his classes.

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So why did they resurrect this old thread?