constant chatter about Montgomery County schools being better
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Anonymous
Maybe the PP was talking out of his a*ss. Count me skeptical. I don't think that hiding college acceptances is a DCPS requirement. For example, below is a list of colleges for a recent class at Walls. My guess is that JR gets a handful of T10 acceptances every year but the results are mostly mediocre, and they want to hide that fact. The graduation rate is only 87%. Plus, if you look at PARCC scores, 3/4 of JR students are below grade level in science, 2/3 are below grade level in math, and 2/5 are below grade level in English. A lot of JR students don't go to college or attend community college at most. Walls admissions for Class of 2020: Allegheny College American University Appalachian State University Arizona State University-Tempe Arkansas Baptist College Ball State University Bard College Barnard College Bates College Belmont University Beloit College Benedict College Bennington College Bethune-Cookman University Binghamton University Boston University Brandeis University Brown University Bryn Mawr College Bucknell University Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo California State Polytechnic University, Pomona California State University-Los Angeles California State University-San Bernardino Carleton College Carnegie Mellon University Case Western Reserve University Catholic University of America Chapman University Cheyney University of Pennsylvania Clark Atlanta University Clark University Clemson University Colby College College of Charleston Colorado State University-Fort Collins Columbia University in the City of New York Cooper Union Coppin State University Cornell University CUNY Bernard M Baruch College CUNY Brooklyn College CUNY Hunter College Delaware State University DePaul University Drew University Drexel University Duke University Duquesne University Earlham College Eastern Michigan University Elon University Emerson College Emory University Fairfield University Fashion Institute of Technology Fayetteville State University Florida Agricultural and Mechanical University Florida Atlantic University Florida State University Fordham University George Mason University George Washington University Georgetown University Georgia Institute of Technology Georgia State University Gettysburg College Grambling State University Hampshire College Hampton University Harvey Mudd College High Point University Hobart William Smith Colleges Howard University Indiana University-Bloomington Instituto Tecnologico y de Estudios Superiores Ithaca College James Madison University John Cabot University Johns Hopkins University Kenyon College King's College London (University of London) Lafayette College Lehigh University Lewis & Clark College Lincoln University Livingstone College Longwood University Louisiana State University Loyola Marymount University Loyola University New Orleans Macalester College Maryland Institute College of Art Marymount University McDaniel College McGill University Miami University-Oxford (Business) Michigan State University Mills College Monmouth University Montgomery College Morehouse College Morgan State University Mount St. Mary's University - Maryland Muhlenberg College New England College New Mexico State University New York University New York University (Shanghai) Norfolk State University North Carolina A & T State University North Carolina Central University North Carolina State University at Raleigh Northeastern University Northern Arizona University Northern Vermont University-Lyndon Northwestern University Notre Dame of Maryland University Oberlin College Occidental College Ohio State University Otis College of Art and Design Pace University-New York Pennsylvania State University Pitzer College Pomona College Purdue University Queen Mary University of London Radford University Reed College Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Rhodes College Rice University Roanoke College Rochester Institute of Technology Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Rutgers University-New Brunswick Saint Augustine's University Saint Mary's College of California San Diego State University San Francisco State University San Jose State University Sarah Lawrence College Savannah College of Art and Design Seton Hall University Shippensburg University of Pennsylvania Skidmore College Smith College Sonoma State University Southern University and A & M College Spelman College St Mary's College of Maryland St. John's College St. John's University Stanford University Stevens Institute of Technology Suffolk University SUNY at Purchase College SUNY College at Oswego SUNY Polytechnic Institute Syracuse University Talladega College Temple University Texas A & M University-College Station The Naropa University The New School The University of Arizona The University of Edinburgh The University of Texas at Austin Towson University Trinity College Trinity University Trinity Washington University Tufts University Tulane University of Louisiana United States Air Force Academy United States Naval Academy Universiteit van Amsterdam University at Albany, SUNY University College London University of Bristol University of California-Berkeley University of California-Davis University of California-Irvine University of California-Los Angeles University of California-Riverside University of California-Santa Barbara University of California-Santa Cruz University of California, San Diego University of Central Florida University of Chicago University of Cincinnati-Main Campus University of Colorado Boulder University of Connecticut University of Delaware University of Denver University of Exeter University of Florida University of Georgia University of Glasgow University of Illinois at Chicago University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign University of Kentucky University of Louisville University of Maine University of Maryland Eastern Shore University of Maryland-College Park University of Massachusetts Boston University of Massachusetts-Amherst University of Massachusetts-Lowell University of Miami University of Michigan-Ann Arbor University of Minnesota-Twin Cities University of Missouri-Columbia University of North Carolina at Asheville University of North Carolina at Greensboro University of North Carolina Wilmington University of Oregon University of Pennsylvania University of Pittsburgh University of Richmond University of Rochester University of San Francisco University of Scranton University of South Carolina-Columbia University of Southampton University of St Andrews University of Tampa University of the District of Columbia University of Toronto University of Utah University of Vermont University of Virginia University of Warwick University of Washington, Seattle University of Wisconsin-Madison Vassar College Virginia Commonwealth University Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Virginia State University Washington Adventist University Washington State University Wellesley College Wesleyan University Whitman College Wilkes University William and Mary Winston-Salem State University Worcester Polytechnic Institute Xavier University Xavier University of Louisiana Yale University |
Anonymous
The vast majority do not. That is true across any school. I do appreciate that MCPS provides actual data across all the schools. Not sure why more school districts do not. |
Anonymous
You really need to let your child own their own accomplishments. This says so much about how DCUM families think about things |
Anonymous
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We've spent time in both DCPS and MCPS. One thing MCPS does much better than DCPS is magnets, which begin in 4th grade and go throgh high school. The system is far from perfect--there are not enough spots for all who qualify--but at least there are spots for some kids. There are also enriched options for kids who don't get magnet spots. For example, enriched and cohorted math and ELA start in 4th grade. (ELA is being rolled out to all schools next year.)
However, we also had a good experience in DCPS in the younger grades. You can't beat having 2 years of free PK in the District. And even schools that aren't good over the long run are usually just fine for the first few years. |
Anonymous
I'm not exactly sure what the list is proving since I just clicked into this thread for the first time, but I'm pretty surprised at how terrible this list is. Half of the colleges on here shouldn't even exist (and likely won't as the college age population shrinks and student debt becomes harder to afford/obtain). There are a few good schools but most of these kids are going to garbage |
Anonymous
Garbage? You sound delightful. |
Anonymous
This. My kid took some AP classes that he really didn't care about because he wasn't going to take on-level classes. He ended up with 10, and he would have taken more if his sport hadn't been so all-consuming (and if he was better at math - he took an honors math class rather than the AP version). Also, since he only took 4 classes senior year, he didn't have to fill up with more APs. |
Anonymous
You are hilariously wrong about this. The year my kid graduated JR, there were kids headed to Harvard, Penn, Yale, Emory, Princeton, and a boatload of other selective schools. My kid's college had an 11% acceptance rate, and he wasn't among the kids in his friend group heading to a super prestigious school. In you post, you say "I don't have any data, so I'm going to assume that the school is hiding something and further asssume that my wildly ignorant fantasy is the truth." You should say less. |
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For folks wondering about JR college destinations, here's where the class of 2020 ended up (per the virtual graduation PowerPoint). Apologize for type-os (I did a rapid slideshow and typed). For the PP who thought no top schools would be represented, I think the schools highlighted are pretty selective (many others may be too, I just don't know):
Alderson Broadus AMDA American U 8 Amsterdam University College (Netherlands) Arizona State 2 Barnard Bentley U Berklee College of Music Boston College Bowie State 4 Brown Bryn Mawr 2 Cal Poly - San Luis Obisbo Carleton Carnagie Mellon Catholic U 4 Clark Atlanta Clemson Coast Guard Academy Coastal Carolina College of Charleson Colorado College 3 Columbia Connecticut College Cornell Delaware State 8 Denison Depaul Drexel Duke Duquesne Durham Univeristy (UK) East Tennessee State Elizabeth City State Emerson 3 Emory 3 Eramus Universiteit Rotterdam Fayette State Florida Atlantic Florida Southern 2 Florida State 2 Fordham Fortis Full Sail U Georgetown 2 GW 3 Georgia State 2 GMU 9 Hampton 2 Harvard 2 Hofstra Inholland Hogeschool (Netherlands) Indiana U 5 Ithica College 2 Johnson & Wales U 2 Kenyon College Liberty Lincoln U 2 LSU Marymount 7 Masaryk U (Czech Repulbic) 2 Mercersburg Miami University Michigan State 2 Middlebury 2 MoCo CC 21 Montana State 2 Morehouse Morgan State Mount Holyoke 2 NC AT NC Central 6 New School, NYC 4 NYU 2 Northeastern 2 Norwich University (UK) Nova CC 5 Nova Southeastern Oberlin Occidental Ohio State ODU Parsons School of Design Penn State 5 Pitzer College 2 Pitt 4 Prairie View A&M PCGG Princeton 2 Purdue Radford Rhodes Collge Rice SAIC Saint John's 2 Salisbury State Salisbury University Santa Fe CC SCAD Scripps Shepard U Smith College Spelman 2 Stevenson Suny Oswego 4 Syracuse 3 Temple 9 Towson Tufts 4 Tulane 3 U Alabama UC Berkeley 2 UC Davis UCLA UC Santa Barbara 3 UC Santa Cruz U Colorodo 6 UConn U Delaware University of Denver UDC 12 University of Exeter University of Florida 3 UGA University of Hartford University of Illinois University of Kentucky 4 UMD College Park 4 UMD Eastern Shore 3 UMass Amherst UMass Lowell 2 University of Michigan 7 University of Miami 2 University of Minnesota UNC Asheville University of Oregon University of Oklahoma University of Richmond University of Salford University of Sheffield (UK) USC University of Tennessee University of The Arts - Philadelphia University of Toronto UVA 3 University of Vermont 3 University of Washington University of Wisconsin 6 Virginia State VCU 5 Wake Forest Washington University SL Wesley College 2 Wesleyan 2 Wheeling Jesuit Wheeling University Wingate College Winston Salem State 3 Wooster WV State Yale 3 |
Anonymous
I know! The stuff people are OK with. I wouldn't be for my kid! --a teacher |
Anonymous
Ouch, harsh. I am guessing some of these kids are first in their families. I see a lot of "not garbage " schools. and to go to college can be a big achievement in itself. Of course, at some point as a counselor I would encourage community college and transfer over a poor quality 4 year college. |
Anonymous
dp.. nobody is ok with it, but as a teacher, you must be aware that there is a huge teacher shortage nationwide, yea? |
Anonymous
NP but you are an idiot. Nothing you said contradicted the previous post. The PP cited data. You cited ... your personal, unverified knowledge about the year your kid graduated, which you didn't mention. You should say nothing. |
Anonymous
Help me understand where the data can be found in the PP’s statement: “ My guess is that JR gets a handful of T10 acceptances every year but the results are mostly mediocre”. I’m your world, does PP’s guess constitute data? If you’d like actual data about JR acceptances, see my post from 19:08 about class of 2020 acceptances. |
Anonymous
| This thread has gotten strange. I want my kid to be well educated and kind. Could care less if they go to Harvard. I assume some kids from each of these HS will get into Ivys and most won’t. That’s not my measuring stick. |