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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Im going to guess colleges will not give any additional thought to a privileged kid with resources at JR vs. BCC vs. Whitman. Why should they?[/quote] It is more nuanced than that. The following factor into the college decision: 1. How many kids are applying to that specific college and how many have legacy. If you look at the history of college acceptances from various HSs, you will see it is fairly consistent year-to-year. JR will send 2-3 to Princeton every year, 2 to MIT, etc. There are way more kids applying to Ivies from Whitman than JR, and many more are going to have legacy. Your primary college competition is the other kids from your school, so if only 6 kids apply to Princeton from JR, you have pretty good odds. These kids will all have the Stats, so this is not a scenario where the JR kids all have 3.0 averages. Not the case at all. Whitman is going to have way more kids applying to Princeton, and Princeton will accept what they normally accept (don't know what it is) every year and the legacies will often win out. Sports recruits are a different animal and will add to the school totals. 2. The overall demographics of the school will actually put it in certain categories which allows the college to check various boxes. The colleges are ecstatic to say we accepted all these kids from this urban school where the median income is fairly low, and median test scores are low. They are more than happy to ignore the fact that the kids they are actually accepting live in $2MM houses and are not disadvantaged whatsoever. Of course if you row crew for JR, you are an Ivy league dream come true. You are part of the national championship team and you go to an urban, hardscrabble school. So many boxes get checked.[/quote] Sort of but you are way overstating the JR acceptance rate at top universities. Whitman and JR each have about 500 in a class. Typically, maybe 35 apply to Princeton from Whitman in a given year, and 1-3 get in. The same year, maybe 12 apply to Princeton from JR, and zero get in. Sure, every once in a while, someone gets into Princeton from JR but it is unusual.[/quote] Hmmm...I presume you are talking out of your A** and are a MOCO person. This year, JR already has one accepted from Princeton (only 4 ED applicants), last year 2 accepted, year before...wait for it...2 accepted. This year, based only on what I know, JR has at least 1 for Harvard, 5 for Cornell, 2 for Brown, 1 for Penn, etc.. Again, only based on what I know.[/quote] Hmmm…weird how JR doesn't release any info about college acceptances…I guess that we will just have to take your word for it.[/quote] Not much one can do about that because it is a DCPS decision. I actually wish they would follow Montgomery County and show acceptance by HS, so you could sit there with your mouth agape and wonder why I moved to MCPS thinking my college acceptance chances would improve.[/quote] Maybe the PP was talking out of his a*ss. Count me skeptical. I don't think that hiding college acceptances is a DCPS requirement. For example, below is a list of colleges for a recent class at Walls. My guess is that JR gets a handful of T10 acceptances every year but the results are mostly mediocre, and they want to hide that fact. The graduation rate is only 87%. Plus, if you look at PARCC scores, 3/4 of JR students are below grade level in science, 2/3 are below grade level in math, and 2/5 are below grade level in English. A lot of JR students don't go to college or attend community college at most. Walls admissions for Class of 2020: Allegheny College American University Appalachian State University Arizona State University-Tempe Arkansas Baptist College Ball State University Bard College Barnard College Bates College Belmont University Beloit College Benedict College Bennington College Bethune-Cookman University Binghamton University Boston University Brandeis University Brown University Bryn Mawr College Bucknell University Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo California State Polytechnic University, Pomona California State University-Los Angeles California State University-San Bernardino Carleton College Carnegie Mellon University Case Western Reserve University Catholic University of America Chapman University Cheyney University of Pennsylvania Clark Atlanta University Clark University Clemson University Colby College College of Charleston Colorado State University-Fort Collins Columbia University in the City of New York Cooper Union Coppin State University Cornell University CUNY Bernard M Baruch College CUNY Brooklyn College CUNY Hunter College Delaware State University DePaul University Drew University Drexel University Duke University Duquesne University Earlham College Eastern Michigan University Elon University Emerson College Emory University Fairfield University Fashion Institute of Technology Fayetteville State University Florida Agricultural and Mechanical University Florida Atlantic University Florida State University Fordham University George Mason University George Washington University Georgetown University Georgia Institute of Technology Georgia State University Gettysburg College Grambling State University Hampshire College Hampton University Harvey Mudd College High Point University Hobart William Smith Colleges Howard University Indiana University-Bloomington Instituto Tecnologico y de Estudios Superiores Ithaca College James Madison University John Cabot University Johns Hopkins University Kenyon College King's College London (University of London) Lafayette College Lehigh University Lewis & Clark College Lincoln University Livingstone College Longwood University Louisiana State University Loyola Marymount University Loyola University New Orleans Macalester College Maryland Institute College of Art Marymount University McDaniel College McGill University Miami University-Oxford (Business) Michigan State University Mills College Monmouth University Montgomery College Morehouse College Morgan State University Mount St. Mary's University - Maryland Muhlenberg College New England College New Mexico State University New York University New York University (Shanghai) Norfolk State University North Carolina A & T State University North Carolina Central University North Carolina State University at Raleigh Northeastern University Northern Arizona University Northern Vermont University-Lyndon Northwestern University Notre Dame of Maryland University Oberlin College Occidental College Ohio State University Otis College of Art and Design Pace University-New York Pennsylvania State University Pitzer College Pomona College Purdue University Queen Mary University of London Radford University Reed College Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Rhodes College Rice University Roanoke College Rochester Institute of Technology Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology Rutgers University-New Brunswick Saint Augustine's University Saint Mary's College of California San Diego State University San Francisco State University San Jose State University Sarah Lawrence College Savannah College of Art and Design Seton Hall University Shippensburg University of Pennsylvania Skidmore College Smith College Sonoma State University Southern University and A & M College Spelman College St Mary's College of Maryland St. John's College St. John's University Stanford University Stevens Institute of Technology Suffolk University SUNY at Purchase College SUNY College at Oswego SUNY Polytechnic Institute Syracuse University Talladega College Temple University Texas A & M University-College Station The Naropa University The New School The University of Arizona The University of Edinburgh The University of Texas at Austin Towson University Trinity College Trinity University Trinity Washington University Tufts University Tulane University of Louisiana United States Air Force Academy United States Naval Academy Universiteit van Amsterdam University at Albany, SUNY University College London University of Bristol University of California-Berkeley University of California-Davis University of California-Irvine University of California-Los Angeles University of California-Riverside University of California-Santa Barbara University of California-Santa Cruz University of California, San Diego University of Central Florida University of Chicago University of Cincinnati-Main Campus University of Colorado Boulder University of Connecticut University of Delaware University of Denver University of Exeter University of Florida University of Georgia University of Glasgow University of Illinois at Chicago University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign University of Kentucky University of Louisville University of Maine University of Maryland Eastern Shore University of Maryland-College Park University of Massachusetts Boston University of Massachusetts-Amherst University of Massachusetts-Lowell University of Miami University of Michigan-Ann Arbor University of Minnesota-Twin Cities University of Missouri-Columbia University of North Carolina at Asheville University of North Carolina at Greensboro University of North Carolina Wilmington University of Oregon University of Pennsylvania University of Pittsburgh University of Richmond University of Rochester University of San Francisco University of Scranton University of South Carolina-Columbia University of Southampton University of St Andrews University of Tampa University of the District of Columbia University of Toronto University of Utah University of Vermont University of Virginia University of Warwick University of Washington, Seattle University of Wisconsin-Madison Vassar College Virginia Commonwealth University Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Virginia State University Washington Adventist University Washington State University Wellesley College Wesleyan University Whitman College Wilkes University William and Mary Winston-Salem State University Worcester Polytechnic Institute Xavier University Xavier University of Louisiana Yale University[/quote] I'm not exactly sure what the list is proving since I just clicked into this thread for the first time, but I'm pretty surprised at how terrible this list is. Half of the colleges on here shouldn't even exist (and likely won't as the college age population shrinks and student debt becomes harder to afford/obtain). There are a few good schools but most of these kids are going to garbage[/quote]
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