Hospital gave FIL Narcan after administering too many pain meds...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Johns Hopkins University says “Avoidable Medical Errors” are the third leading cause of death (greater than 250,000 per year) after heart disease and cancer.

“The CDC’s way of collecting national health statistics FAILS to classify medical errors separately on the death certificate.”


Yikes!!!!!

This is for 9:35 from Johns Hopkins University.

Is there a citation for that claim?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My husband is a doctor, and is mortally afraid of medical errors. He says they are extremely common and rarely reported. There is almost always a cover up.

The CDC is complicit when you die from an overdose of meds, the wrong meds, or a mistaken surgical procedure, and hospital staff is fraudulently allowed to say you died from whatever you came for — instead of their preventable medical error. This is essentially fraud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprising. Usually they are restrictive with pain meds.

I'm not naturally one to resort to suing but yeah I would in this case.

What would you sue for? The cost of the Narcan? You aren’t going to find an attorney to take this one on contingency.

I work in health care and agree there are things that are classified as "errors" all the time but 99% time there is no real harm done to the patient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprising. Usually they are restrictive with pain meds.

I'm not naturally one to resort to suing but yeah I would in this case.

What would you sue for? The cost of the Narcan? You aren’t going to find an attorney to take this one on contingency.

+1….what would you sue for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Surprising. Usually they are restrictive with pain meds.

I'm not naturally one to resort to suing but yeah I would in this case.

What would you sue for? The cost of the Narcan? You aren’t going to find an attorney to take this one on contingency.

I work in health care and agree there are things that are classified as "errors" all the time but 99% time there is no real harm done to the patient.

Third leading cause of death is absolutely real harm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My husband is a doctor, and is mortally afraid of medical errors. He says they are extremely common and rarely reported. There is almost always a cover up.

I am a nurse and yes, this is true. And honestly, there is a lot more cover up when the mistake is done by the physician. Us nurses are a dime a dozen in the hospitals' eyes... but physicians, not so much. Nurses joke about which physicians we would avoid bc we see the mishaps (that most often get dealt with efficiently and effectively so no harm comes to the patient). Also-I cannot emphasize this enough-but nurse to patient ratios are a big deal. When nurses have too many patients, things fall through the cracks. I wish hospitals would advertise their ratios to patients.

+1

[Anonymous]

OP they saved your dad what more do you want? Its like you're directing your anger about his illness towards the medical profession in general I know people do this, but it is completely inappropriate.

[Anonymous]

Sister had surgery at 8am. Not easy, but done by 10am. She was in recovery but never really woke up. Doctors checked at 7pm when husband expressed concern. They checked and her oxygen was at 45%. Nurse called and the doctor gave her narcan. She woke up, but it was scary!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My dad passed away last year and we are 100 percent confident that this is what killed him. He was supposed to be discharged and they for some reason gave him way too many meds the day of discharge. Had to use narcan several times. He was confused after that and I think he had brain damage. Horrible. Died shortly after that.

I’m so sorry about your dad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
News Flash:
Third leading cause of death:
Hospital errors

As much as humanly possible, you should have someone at your side 24/7 if you have to be in the hospital just to double check exactly what they’re doing. Have a notebook to keep your own records. If they complain, I’d choose another hospital. They should have nothing to hide.

How many people die every year now because of hospital errors?

[Anonymous]

OP, cutting to the chase here but see what the VS were during that timeline. Based on that you can likely see the timeline of why they made the adjustment/gave narcan.

-nurse here and NBD UNLESS someone was not noticing that they should have held a narc or given narcan sooner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sister had surgery at 8am. Not easy, but done by 10am. She was in recovery but never really woke up. Doctors checked at 7pm when husband expressed concern. They checked and her oxygen was at 45%. Nurse called and the doctor gave her narcan. She woke up, but it was scary!

You really need someone next to you 24/7 if you’re in the hospital to see what’s they’re doing.

[Anonymous]

they should have told you about the narcan, but it isn't necessarily a mistake. respiratory depression is a known side effect of opioids. in an older patient who had anesthesia and then pain medication, it wouldn't be uncommon to see some slowed respirations. there's no harm in giving narcan, so if someone is worried, it's better to give then not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP they saved your dad what more do you want? It’s like you're directing your anger about his illness towards the medical profession in general I know people do this, but it is completely inappropriate.

This is the usual attitude towards women who opt for a hospital birth.

“Stop complaining about the way we treated you! You got a (mostly) healthy baby, didn’t you?!?!?” It’s sickening.

[Anonymous]

Many people who take pain meds have their own Narcan to administer themselves.