Us-eu GDP gap and life expectancy gap are widening so rapidly in opposite directions

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Anonymous wrote:Europe is poor. So many Americans are woefully unaware of how extremely low salaries are in Europe. Life expectancy is low in the US, but ours is also dragged down because the US deals with a lot more complicated births that'd be terminated in Europe. When kids die below 2 years old, it drags down the mean life expectancy by a lot.

Do you get 6-8 weeks vacation a year? How many of your friends and relatives do?

I currently have 400+ hours of vacation.

Why in the hell would I want 8 weeks vacation? That's why Europeans are poor. Their productivity is trash, they barely invent anything anymore, and life for them is about coasting by with your bare essentials met. Hey, if mediocrity appeals to you, move to Europe.

All of the vacation and time off in Europe is so overrated. The trade off are often salaries that are nearly half of what you'd get paid in the US. I don't want or need 8 weeks off. Pay me more money please, thanks.

You know you can’t take it with you, right? Everyone dies. No one brings their bank account to the afterworld.

This is how bums, non-inventors, and lazy people think. Living in the UK, for example, making $50k salary that you'd easily get paid $100k for in the US sucks. People in Europe constantly scrape by because of extremely low salaries, stagnant exonomies, and incomes thst just never grow. It's almost as if you missed the yellow vest protests in France. Buy hey, at least you got 8 weeks of vacation while you're poor.

Lol.

My European friends might live in somewhat smaller homes than most Americans (1800-2000 sq ft vs 2500) but you know what those lazy bums have that most Americans don’t? High quality building materials and fixtures. Real masonry. Solid walls and doors, not hollow. High end, better efficiency windows, not the crappy kind most American homes are built with. Sturdy, long-lasting door handles and locks that would only be found in high end custom built American home. Their bathrooms and kitchens have only high quality materials, not cheap plastic parts or low grade sinks and countertops. Their homes are built to last and are energy efficient. This is true even of friends who live in condos.

And they still get 6-8 weeks off a year. Plus they never worry about a medical crisis driving them to bankruptcy.

Poor lazy bums!

This is actually backwards. American houses have excellent insulation and people live through the winter. In Europe, houses lack insulation and people die every winter from cold.

http://globalag.igc.org/health/world/cold.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784

Some folks in TX died during the freeze last winter. Their houses weren't insulated for the freeze. Several died in their homes due to hypothermia.

Over 1300 people die in cold houses in London yearly. Ireland, Portugal and Spain all have high numbers of cold death in the winter.

They build lousy houses in Europe.

Huh? Are you saying 1300 died of hyperthermia? Would love to see your source.

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Anonymous wrote:Europe is poor. So many Americans are woefully unaware of how extremely low salaries are in Europe. Life expectancy is low in the US, but ours is also dragged down because the US deals with a lot more complicated births that'd be terminated in Europe. When kids die below 2 years old, it drags down the mean life expectancy by a lot.

Do you get 6-8 weeks vacation a year? How many of your friends and relatives do?

I currently have 400+ hours of vacation.

Why in the hell would I want 8 weeks vacation? That's why Europeans are poor. Their productivity is trash, they barely invent anything anymore, and life for them is about coasting by with your bare essentials met. Hey, if mediocrity appeals to you, move to Europe.

All of the vacation and time off in Europe is so overrated. The trade off are often salaries that are nearly half of what you'd get paid in the US. I don't want or need 8 weeks off. Pay me more money please, thanks.

You know you can’t take it with you, right? Everyone dies. No one brings their bank account to the afterworld.

This is how bums, non-inventors, and lazy people think. Living in the UK, for example, making $50k salary that you'd easily get paid $100k for in the US sucks. People in Europe constantly scrape by because of extremely low salaries, stagnant exonomies, and incomes thst just never grow. It's almost as if you missed the yellow vest protests in France. Buy hey, at least you got 8 weeks of vacation while you're poor.

Lol.

My European friends might live in somewhat smaller homes than most Americans (1800-2000 sq ft vs 2500) but you know what those lazy bums have that most Americans don’t? High quality building materials and fixtures. Real masonry. Solid walls and doors, not hollow. High end, better efficiency windows, not the crappy kind most American homes are built with. Sturdy, long-lasting door handles and locks that would only be found in high end custom built American home. Their bathrooms and kitchens have only high quality materials, not cheap plastic parts or low grade sinks and countertops. Their homes are built to last and are energy efficient. This is true even of friends who live in condos.

And they still get 6-8 weeks off a year. Plus they never worry about a medical crisis driving them to bankruptcy.

Poor lazy bums!

This is actually backwards. American houses have excellent insulation and people live through the winter. In Europe, houses lack insulation and people die every winter from cold.

http://globalag.igc.org/health/world/cold.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784

Some folks in TX died during the freeze last winter. Their houses weren't insulated for the freeze. Several died in their homes due to hypothermia.

Over 1300 people die in cold houses in London yearly. Ireland, Portugal and Spain all have high numbers of cold death in the winter.

They build lousy houses in Europe.

Huh? Are you saying 1300 died of hyperthermia? Would love to see your source.

I believe they are stating that 1300 died of hypothermia.

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Anonymous wrote:Europe is poor. So many Americans are woefully unaware of how extremely low salaries are in Europe. Life expectancy is low in the US, but ours is also dragged down because the US deals with a lot more complicated births that'd be terminated in Europe. When kids die below 2 years old, it drags down the mean life expectancy by a lot.

Do you get 6-8 weeks vacation a year? How many of your friends and relatives do?

I currently have 400+ hours of vacation.

Why in the hell would I want 8 weeks vacation? That's why Europeans are poor. Their productivity is trash, they barely invent anything anymore, and life for them is about coasting by with your bare essentials met. Hey, if mediocrity appeals to you, move to Europe.

All of the vacation and time off in Europe is so overrated. The trade off are often salaries that are nearly half of what you'd get paid in the US. I don't want or need 8 weeks off. Pay me more money please, thanks.

You know you can’t take it with you, right? Everyone dies. No one brings their bank account to the afterworld.

This is how bums, non-inventors, and lazy people think. Living in the UK, for example, making $50k salary that you'd easily get paid $100k for in the US sucks. People in Europe constantly scrape by because of extremely low salaries, stagnant exonomies, and incomes thst just never grow. It's almost as if you missed the yellow vest protests in France. Buy hey, at least you got 8 weeks of vacation while you're poor.

Lol.

My European friends might live in somewhat smaller homes than most Americans (1800-2000 sq ft vs 2500) but you know what those lazy bums have that most Americans don’t? High quality building materials and fixtures. Real masonry. Solid walls and doors, not hollow. High end, better efficiency windows, not the crappy kind most American homes are built with. Sturdy, long-lasting door handles and locks that would only be found in high end custom built American home. Their bathrooms and kitchens have only high quality materials, not cheap plastic parts or low grade sinks and countertops. Their homes are built to last and are energy efficient. This is true even of friends who live in condos.

And they still get 6-8 weeks off a year. Plus they never worry about a medical crisis driving them to bankruptcy.

Poor lazy bums!

This is actually backwards. American houses have excellent insulation and people live through the winter. In Europe, houses lack insulation and people die every winter from cold.

http://globalag.igc.org/health/world/cold.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784

Some folks in TX died during the freeze last winter. Their houses weren't insulated for the freeze. Several died in their homes due to hypothermia.

Over 1300 people die in cold houses in London yearly. Ireland, Portugal and Spain all have high numbers of cold death in the winter.

They build lousy houses in Europe.

Huh? Are you saying 1300 died of hyperthermia? Would love to see your source.

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https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/dying-cold-europe-fuel-poverty-energy-spending

Across the uk it’s a huge amount

I don’t think you understand how crappy a lot of uk homes are.

Uk has a very bad building culture

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Anonymous wrote:Europe is poor. So many Americans are woefully unaware of how extremely low salaries are in Europe. Life expectancy is low in the US, but ours is also dragged down because the US deals with a lot more complicated births that'd be terminated in Europe. When kids die below 2 years old, it drags down the mean life expectancy by a lot.

Do you get 6-8 weeks vacation a year? How many of your friends and relatives do?

I currently have 400+ hours of vacation.

Why in the hell would I want 8 weeks vacation? That's why Europeans are poor. Their productivity is trash, they barely invent anything anymore, and life for them is about coasting by with your bare essentials met. Hey, if mediocrity appeals to you, move to Europe.

All of the vacation and time off in Europe is so overrated. The trade off are often salaries that are nearly half of what you'd get paid in the US. I don't want or need 8 weeks off. Pay me more money please, thanks.

You know you can’t take it with you, right? Everyone dies. No one brings their bank account to the afterworld.

This is how bums, non-inventors, and lazy people think. Living in the UK, for example, making $50k salary that you'd easily get paid $100k for in the US sucks. People in Europe constantly scrape by because of extremely low salaries, stagnant exonomies, and incomes thst just never grow. It's almost as if you missed the yellow vest protests in France. Buy hey, at least you got 8 weeks of vacation while you're poor.

Lol.

My European friends might live in somewhat smaller homes than most Americans (1800-2000 sq ft vs 2500) but you know what those lazy bums have that most Americans don’t? High quality building materials and fixtures. Real masonry. Solid walls and doors, not hollow. High end, better efficiency windows, not the crappy kind most American homes are built with. Sturdy, long-lasting door handles and locks that would only be found in high end custom built American home. Their bathrooms and kitchens have only high quality materials, not cheap plastic parts or low grade sinks and countertops. Their homes are built to last and are energy efficient. This is true even of friends who live in condos.

And they still get 6-8 weeks off a year. Plus they never worry about a medical crisis driving them to bankruptcy.

Poor lazy bums!

This is actually backwards. American houses have excellent insulation and people live through the winter. In Europe, houses lack insulation and people die every winter from cold.

http://globalag.igc.org/health/world/cold.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784

Some folks in TX died during the freeze last winter. Their houses weren't insulated for the freeze. Several died in their homes due to hypothermia.

Over 1300 people die in cold houses in London yearly. Ireland, Portugal and Spain all have high numbers of cold death in the winter.

They build lousy houses in Europe.

Huh? Are you saying 1300 died of hyperthermia? Would love to see your source.

Not pp in quote but different pp in thread —

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/dying-cold-europe-fuel-poverty-energy-spending

Across the uk it’s a huge amount

I don’t think you understand how crappy a lot of uk homes are.

Uk has a very bad building culture

Of course I understand how crappy a lot of UK homes are. I have one of those crappy homes and spend a fortune on fixing problems that are unfixable.

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Anonymous wrote:Europe is poor. So many Americans are woefully unaware of how extremely low salaries are in Europe. Life expectancy is low in the US, but ours is also dragged down because the US deals with a lot more complicated births that'd be terminated in Europe. When kids die below 2 years old, it drags down the mean life expectancy by a lot.

Do you get 6-8 weeks vacation a year? How many of your friends and relatives do?

I currently have 400+ hours of vacation.

Why in the hell would I want 8 weeks vacation? That's why Europeans are poor. Their productivity is trash, they barely invent anything anymore, and life for them is about coasting by with your bare essentials met. Hey, if mediocrity appeals to you, move to Europe.

All of the vacation and time off in Europe is so overrated. The trade off are often salaries that are nearly half of what you'd get paid in the US. I don't want or need 8 weeks off. Pay me more money please, thanks.

You know you can’t take it with you, right? Everyone dies. No one brings their bank account to the afterworld.

This is how bums, non-inventors, and lazy people think. Living in the UK, for example, making $50k salary that you'd easily get paid $100k for in the US sucks. People in Europe constantly scrape by because of extremely low salaries, stagnant exonomies, and incomes thst just never grow. It's almost as if you missed the yellow vest protests in France. Buy hey, at least you got 8 weeks of vacation while you're poor.

Lol.

My European friends might live in somewhat smaller homes than most Americans (1800-2000 sq ft vs 2500) but you know what those lazy bums have that most Americans don’t? High quality building materials and fixtures. Real masonry. Solid walls and doors, not hollow. High end, better efficiency windows, not the crappy kind most American homes are built with. Sturdy, long-lasting door handles and locks that would only be found in high end custom built American home. Their bathrooms and kitchens have only high quality materials, not cheap plastic parts or low grade sinks and countertops. Their homes are built to last and are energy efficient. This is true even of friends who live in condos.

And they still get 6-8 weeks off a year. Plus they never worry about a medical crisis driving them to bankruptcy.

Poor lazy bums!

This is actually backwards. American houses have excellent insulation and people live through the winter. In Europe, houses lack insulation and people die every winter from cold.

http://globalag.igc.org/health/world/cold.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784

Some folks in TX died during the freeze last winter. Their houses weren't insulated for the freeze. Several died in their homes due to hypothermia.

Over 1300 people die in cold houses in London yearly. Ireland, Portugal and Spain all have high numbers of cold death in the winter.

They build lousy houses in Europe.

Huh? Are you saying 1300 died of hyperthermia? Would love to see your source.

Not pp in quote but different pp in thread —

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/dying-cold-europe-fuel-poverty-energy-spending

Across the uk it’s a huge amount

I don’t think you understand how crappy a lot of uk homes are.

Uk has a very bad building culture

Of course I understand how crappy a lot of UK homes are. I have one of those crappy homes and spend a fortune on fixing problems that are unfixable.

I am the first PP. I came across that statistic awhile back and was shocked. I looked into it and saw it repeated several times. Every year, thousands die of the cold (and this year thousands died from heatwaves). In the US, except for the one cold winter in Texas and the recent storm in Buffalo, dying from cold is unusual. And the people in Buffalo all died outside or in care, not in their houses. In the US, houses have insulation. In the UK, they don't. And it kills people every year.

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My best friend lives in Switzerland and her life is glorious. Switzerland is number one for happiness year after year. She moved there after college and never looked back.

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Anonymous wrote:Europe is poor. So many Americans are woefully unaware of how extremely low salaries are in Europe. Life expectancy is low in the US, but ours is also dragged down because the US deals with a lot more complicated births that'd be terminated in Europe. When kids die below 2 years old, it drags down the mean life expectancy by a lot.

Do you get 6-8 weeks vacation a year? How many of your friends and relatives do?

I currently have 400+ hours of vacation.

Why in the hell would I want 8 weeks vacation? That's why Europeans are poor. Their productivity is trash, they barely invent anything anymore, and life for them is about coasting by with your bare essentials met. Hey, if mediocrity appeals to you, move to Europe.

All of the vacation and time off in Europe is so overrated. The trade off are often salaries that are nearly half of what you'd get paid in the US. I don't want or need 8 weeks off. Pay me more money please, thanks.

You know you can’t take it with you, right? Everyone dies. No one brings their bank account to the afterworld.

This is how bums, non-inventors, and lazy people think. Living in the UK, for example, making $50k salary that you'd easily get paid $100k for in the US sucks. People in Europe constantly scrape by because of extremely low salaries, stagnant exonomies, and incomes thst just never grow. It's almost as if you missed the yellow vest protests in France. Buy hey, at least you got 8 weeks of vacation while you're poor.

Lol.

My European friends might live in somewhat smaller homes than most Americans (1800-2000 sq ft vs 2500) but you know what those lazy bums have that most Americans don’t? High quality building materials and fixtures. Real masonry. Solid walls and doors, not hollow. High end, better efficiency windows, not the crappy kind most American homes are built with. Sturdy, long-lasting door handles and locks that would only be found in high end custom built American home. Their bathrooms and kitchens have only high quality materials, not cheap plastic parts or low grade sinks and countertops. Their homes are built to last and are energy efficient. This is true even of friends who live in condos.

And they still get 6-8 weeks off a year. Plus they never worry about a medical crisis driving them to bankruptcy.

Poor lazy bums!

This is actually backwards. American houses have excellent insulation and people live through the winter. In Europe, houses lack insulation and people die every winter from cold.

http://globalag.igc.org/health/world/cold.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784

Some folks in TX died during the freeze last winter. Their houses weren't insulated for the freeze. Several died in their homes due to hypothermia.

Over 1300 people die in cold houses in London yearly. Ireland, Portugal and Spain all have high numbers of cold death in the winter.

They build lousy houses in Europe.

Huh? Are you saying 1300 died of hyperthermia? Would love to see your source.

Not pp in quote but different pp in thread —

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/dying-cold-europe-fuel-poverty-energy-spending

Across the uk it’s a huge amount

I don’t think you understand how crappy a lot of uk homes are.

Uk has a very bad building culture

Of course I understand how crappy a lot of UK homes are. I have one of those crappy homes and spend a fortune on fixing problems that are unfixable.

I am the first PP. I came across that statistic awhile back and was shocked. I looked into it and saw it repeated several times. Every year, thousands die of the cold (and this year thousands died from heatwaves). In the US, except for the one cold winter in Texas and the recent storm in Buffalo, dying from cold is unusual. And the people in Buffalo all died outside or in care, not in their houses. In the US, houses have insulation. In the UK, they don't. And it kills people every year.

I confess I'm be a little sceptical about the stat given it was produced by a charity that is unlikely to have an independent view. But yes, maybe. I don't think the UK has a bad building culture per se but the age of the housing stock is a huge problem. 12% of houses in England and 8% of homes in Wales were built before 1900 so they are incredibly inefficient in energy use.

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Anonymous wrote:Europe is poor. So many Americans are woefully unaware of how extremely low salaries are in Europe. Life expectancy is low in the US, but ours is also dragged down because the US deals with a lot more complicated births that'd be terminated in Europe. When kids die below 2 years old, it drags down the mean life expectancy by a lot.

Do you get 6-8 weeks vacation a year? How many of your friends and relatives do?

I currently have 400+ hours of vacation.

Why in the hell would I want 8 weeks vacation? That's why Europeans are poor. Their productivity is trash, they barely invent anything anymore, and life for them is about coasting by with your bare essentials met. Hey, if mediocrity appeals to you, move to Europe.

All of the vacation and time off in Europe is so overrated. The trade off are often salaries that are nearly half of what you'd get paid in the US. I don't want or need 8 weeks off. Pay me more money please, thanks.

You know you can’t take it with you, right? Everyone dies. No one brings their bank account to the afterworld.

This is how bums, non-inventors, and lazy people think. Living in the UK, for example, making $50k salary that you'd easily get paid $100k for in the US sucks. People in Europe constantly scrape by because of extremely low salaries, stagnant exonomies, and incomes thst just never grow. It's almost as if you missed the yellow vest protests in France. Buy hey, at least you got 8 weeks of vacation while you're poor.

Lol.

My European friends might live in somewhat smaller homes than most Americans (1800-2000 sq ft vs 2500) but you know what those lazy bums have that most Americans don’t? High quality building materials and fixtures. Real masonry. Solid walls and doors, not hollow. High end, better efficiency windows, not the crappy kind most American homes are built with. Sturdy, long-lasting door handles and locks that would only be found in high end custom built American home. Their bathrooms and kitchens have only high quality materials, not cheap plastic parts or low grade sinks and countertops. Their homes are built to last and are energy efficient. This is true even of friends who live in condos.

And they still get 6-8 weeks off a year. Plus they never worry about a medical crisis driving them to bankruptcy.

Poor lazy bums!

This is actually backwards. American houses have excellent insulation and people live through the winter. In Europe, houses lack insulation and people die every winter from cold.

http://globalag.igc.org/health/world/cold.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784

Some folks in TX died during the freeze last winter. Their houses weren't insulated for the freeze. Several died in their homes due to hypothermia.

Over 1300 people die in cold houses in London yearly. Ireland, Portugal and Spain all have high numbers of cold death in the winter.

They build lousy houses in Europe.

Huh? Are you saying 1300 died of hyperthermia? Would love to see your source.

Not pp in quote but different pp in thread —

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/dying-cold-europe-fuel-poverty-energy-spending

Across the uk it’s a huge amount

I don’t think you understand how crappy a lot of uk homes are.

Uk has a very bad building culture

Of course I understand how crappy a lot of UK homes are. I have one of those crappy homes and spend a fortune on fixing problems that are unfixable.

I am the first PP. I came across that statistic awhile back and was shocked. I looked into it and saw it repeated several times. Every year, thousands die of the cold (and this year thousands died from heatwaves). In the US, except for the one cold winter in Texas and the recent storm in Buffalo, dying from cold is unusual. And the people in Buffalo all died outside or in care, not in their houses. In the US, houses have insulation. In the UK, they don't. And it kills people every year.

I confess I'm be a little sceptical about the stat given it was produced by a charity that is unlikely to have an independent view. But yes, maybe. I don't think the UK has a bad building culture per se but the age of the housing stock is a huge problem. 12% of houses in England and 8% of homes in Wales were built before 1900 so they are incredibly inefficient in energy use.

Even new builds in uk are terrible when it comes to heating/insulation.

The uk working class coupled with the Slavs and Islamists is a toxic combo that is no where near as good in construction as our working class and Hispanic workforce

I don’t think people understand just how grim 🇬🇧 is on a multitude of measures

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Anonymous wrote:Europe is poor. So many Americans are woefully unaware of how extremely low salaries are in Europe. Life expectancy is low in the US, but ours is also dragged down because the US deals with a lot more complicated births that'd be terminated in Europe. When kids die below 2 years old, it drags down the mean life expectancy by a lot.

Do you get 6-8 weeks vacation a year? How many of your friends and relatives do?

I currently have 400+ hours of vacation.

Why in the hell would I want 8 weeks vacation? That's why Europeans are poor. Their productivity is trash, they barely invent anything anymore, and life for them is about coasting by with your bare essentials met. Hey, if mediocrity appeals to you, move to Europe.

All of the vacation and time off in Europe is so overrated. The trade off are often salaries that are nearly half of what you'd get paid in the US. I don't want or need 8 weeks off. Pay me more money please, thanks.

You know you can’t take it with you, right? Everyone dies. No one brings their bank account to the afterworld.

This is how bums, non-inventors, and lazy people think. Living in the UK, for example, making $50k salary that you'd easily get paid $100k for in the US sucks. People in Europe constantly scrape by because of extremely low salaries, stagnant exonomies, and incomes thst just never grow. It's almost as if you missed the yellow vest protests in France. Buy hey, at least you got 8 weeks of vacation while you're poor.

Lol.

My European friends might live in somewhat smaller homes than most Americans (1800-2000 sq ft vs 2500) but you know what those lazy bums have that most Americans don’t? High quality building materials and fixtures. Real masonry. Solid walls and doors, not hollow. High end, better efficiency windows, not the crappy kind most American homes are built with. Sturdy, long-lasting door handles and locks that would only be found in high end custom built American home. Their bathrooms and kitchens have only high quality materials, not cheap plastic parts or low grade sinks and countertops. Their homes are built to last and are energy efficient. This is true even of friends who live in condos.

And they still get 6-8 weeks off a year. Plus they never worry about a medical crisis driving them to bankruptcy.

Poor lazy bums!

This is actually backwards. American houses have excellent insulation and people live through the winter. In Europe, houses lack insulation and people die every winter from cold.

http://globalag.igc.org/health/world/cold.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784

Some folks in TX died during the freeze last winter. Their houses weren't insulated for the freeze. Several died in their homes due to hypothermia.

Over 1300 people die in cold houses in London yearly. Ireland, Portugal and Spain all have high numbers of cold death in the winter.

They build lousy houses in Europe.

Huh? Are you saying 1300 died of hyperthermia? Would love to see your source.

Not pp in quote but different pp in thread —

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/dying-cold-europe-fuel-poverty-energy-spending

Across the uk it’s a huge amount

I don’t think you understand how crappy a lot of uk homes are.

Uk has a very bad building culture

Of course I understand how crappy a lot of UK homes are. I have one of those crappy homes and spend a fortune on fixing problems that are unfixable.

I am the first PP. I came across that statistic awhile back and was shocked. I looked into it and saw it repeated several times. Every year, thousands die of the cold (and this year thousands died from heatwaves). In the US, except for the one cold winter in Texas and the recent storm in Buffalo, dying from cold is unusual. And the people in Buffalo all died outside or in care, not in their houses. In the US, houses have insulation. In the UK, they don't. And it kills people every year.

I confess I'm be a little sceptical about the stat given it was produced by a charity that is unlikely to have an independent view. But yes, maybe. I don't think the UK has a bad building culture per se but the age of the housing stock is a huge problem. 12% of houses in England and 8% of homes in Wales were built before 1900 so they are incredibly inefficient in energy use.

A lot of the homes in the UK are super old, older than many homes in the US, and like the poorer parts of the US, many can't afford to update their homes.

Regardless, Brits and Americans are pretty much on par with each other on the world happiness index.

https://worldhappiness.report/ed/2022/happiness-benevolence-and-trust-during-covid-19-and-beyond/#ranking-of-happiness-2019-2021

Not really a big difference.

-married to a Brit

I read an article recently about why these countries always are ranked high on the happiness index:

1. they don't strive to keep up with the joneses. As the saying goes, comparison is the thief of joy
2. they have a lot of green space around their cities, and they are very into outdoor activities, even in the winter. They cycle around more and rely on cars less. They build their cities to make it less dependent on cars. All that exercise and fresh air probably contributes to their well being.
3. something about social connections. Despite not having large families, they generally are close to the grandparents and have great social support

Also read an article yesterday that DC is the "loneliest" city in the US, meaning they live alone. Now, I liked living alone when I was younger, but it does make one feel lonelier.

https://www.chamberofcommerce.org/loneliest-cities-in-america

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Anonymous wrote:Europe is poor. So many Americans are woefully unaware of how extremely low salaries are in Europe. Life expectancy is low in the US, but ours is also dragged down because the US deals with a lot more complicated births that'd be terminated in Europe. When kids die below 2 years old, it drags down the mean life expectancy by a lot.

Do you get 6-8 weeks vacation a year? How many of your friends and relatives do?

I currently have 400+ hours of vacation.

Why in the hell would I want 8 weeks vacation? That's why Europeans are poor. Their productivity is trash, they barely invent anything anymore, and life for them is about coasting by with your bare essentials met. Hey, if mediocrity appeals to you, move to Europe.

All of the vacation and time off in Europe is so overrated. The trade off are often salaries that are nearly half of what you'd get paid in the US. I don't want or need 8 weeks off. Pay me more money please, thanks.

You know you can’t take it with you, right? Everyone dies. No one brings their bank account to the afterworld.

This is how bums, non-inventors, and lazy people think. Living in the UK, for example, making $50k salary that you'd easily get paid $100k for in the US sucks. People in Europe constantly scrape by because of extremely low salaries, stagnant exonomies, and incomes thst just never grow. It's almost as if you missed the yellow vest protests in France. Buy hey, at least you got 8 weeks of vacation while you're poor.

Lol.

My European friends might live in somewhat smaller homes than most Americans (1800-2000 sq ft vs 2500) but you know what those lazy bums have that most Americans don’t? High quality building materials and fixtures. Real masonry. Solid walls and doors, not hollow. High end, better efficiency windows, not the crappy kind most American homes are built with. Sturdy, long-lasting door handles and locks that would only be found in high end custom built American home. Their bathrooms and kitchens have only high quality materials, not cheap plastic parts or low grade sinks and countertops. Their homes are built to last and are energy efficient. This is true even of friends who live in condos.

And they still get 6-8 weeks off a year. Plus they never worry about a medical crisis driving them to bankruptcy.

Poor lazy bums!

This is actually backwards. American houses have excellent insulation and people live through the winter. In Europe, houses lack insulation and people die every winter from cold.

http://globalag.igc.org/health/world/cold.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784

Some folks in TX died during the freeze last winter. Their houses weren't insulated for the freeze. Several died in their homes due to hypothermia.

Over 1300 people die in cold houses in London yearly. Ireland, Portugal and Spain all have high numbers of cold death in the winter.

They build lousy houses in Europe.

Huh? Are you saying 1300 died of hyperthermia? Would love to see your source.

Not pp in quote but different pp in thread —

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/dying-cold-europe-fuel-poverty-energy-spending

Across the uk it’s a huge amount

I don’t think you understand how crappy a lot of uk homes are.

Uk has a very bad building culture

Of course I understand how crappy a lot of UK homes are. I have one of those crappy homes and spend a fortune on fixing problems that are unfixable.

I am the first PP. I came across that statistic awhile back and was shocked. I looked into it and saw it repeated several times. Every year, thousands die of the cold (and this year thousands died from heatwaves). In the US, except for the one cold winter in Texas and the recent storm in Buffalo, dying from cold is unusual. And the people in Buffalo all died outside or in care, not in their houses. In the US, houses have insulation. In the UK, they don't. And it kills people every year.

I confess I'm be a little sceptical about the stat given it was produced by a charity that is unlikely to have an independent view. But yes, maybe. I don't think the UK has a bad building culture per se but the age of the housing stock is a huge problem. 12% of houses in England and 8% of homes in Wales were built before 1900 so they are incredibly inefficient in energy use.

Even new builds in uk are terrible when it comes to heating/insulation.

The uk working class coupled with the Slavs and Islamists is a toxic combo that is no where near as good in construction as our working class and Hispanic workforce

I don’t think people understand just how grim 🇬🇧 is on a multitude of measures

I must have missed the latest international index of poor ethnic combinations in construction. Fortunately, my Slavic builder father has died so I don't have to deliver the bad news.

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Anonymous wrote:Europe is poor. So many Americans are woefully unaware of how extremely low salaries are in Europe. Life expectancy is low in the US, but ours is also dragged down because the US deals with a lot more complicated births that'd be terminated in Europe. When kids die below 2 years old, it drags down the mean life expectancy by a lot.

Do you get 6-8 weeks vacation a year? How many of your friends and relatives do?

I currently have 400+ hours of vacation.

Why in the hell would I want 8 weeks vacation? That's why Europeans are poor. Their productivity is trash, they barely invent anything anymore, and life for them is about coasting by with your bare essentials met. Hey, if mediocrity appeals to you, move to Europe.

All of the vacation and time off in Europe is so overrated. The trade off are often salaries that are nearly half of what you'd get paid in the US. I don't want or need 8 weeks off. Pay me more money please, thanks.

You know you can’t take it with you, right? Everyone dies. No one brings their bank account to the afterworld.

This is how bums, non-inventors, and lazy people think. Living in the UK, for example, making $50k salary that you'd easily get paid $100k for in the US sucks. People in Europe constantly scrape by because of extremely low salaries, stagnant exonomies, and incomes thst just never grow. It's almost as if you missed the yellow vest protests in France. Buy hey, at least you got 8 weeks of vacation while you're poor.

Lol.

My European friends might live in somewhat smaller homes than most Americans (1800-2000 sq ft vs 2500) but you know what those lazy bums have that most Americans don’t? High quality building materials and fixtures. Real masonry. Solid walls and doors, not hollow. High end, better efficiency windows, not the crappy kind most American homes are built with. Sturdy, long-lasting door handles and locks that would only be found in high end custom built American home. Their bathrooms and kitchens have only high quality materials, not cheap plastic parts or low grade sinks and countertops. Their homes are built to last and are energy efficient. This is true even of friends who live in condos.

And they still get 6-8 weeks off a year. Plus they never worry about a medical crisis driving them to bankruptcy.

Poor lazy bums!

This is actually backwards. American houses have excellent insulation and people live through the winter. In Europe, houses lack insulation and people die every winter from cold.

http://globalag.igc.org/health/world/cold.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784

Some folks in TX died during the freeze last winter. Their houses weren't insulated for the freeze. Several died in their homes due to hypothermia.

Over 1300 people die in cold houses in London yearly. Ireland, Portugal and Spain all have high numbers of cold death in the winter.

They build lousy houses in Europe.

Huh? Are you saying 1300 died of hyperthermia? Would love to see your source.

Not pp in quote but different pp in thread —

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/dying-cold-europe-fuel-poverty-energy-spending

Across the uk it’s a huge amount

I don’t think you understand how crappy a lot of uk homes are.

Uk has a very bad building culture

Of course I understand how crappy a lot of UK homes are. I have one of those crappy homes and spend a fortune on fixing problems that are unfixable.

I am the first PP. I came across that statistic awhile back and was shocked. I looked into it and saw it repeated several times. Every year, thousands die of the cold (and this year thousands died from heatwaves). In the US, except for the one cold winter in Texas and the recent storm in Buffalo, dying from cold is unusual. And the people in Buffalo all died outside or in care, not in their houses. In the US, houses have insulation. In the UK, they don't. And it kills people every year.

I confess I'm be a little sceptical about the stat given it was produced by a charity that is unlikely to have an independent view. But yes, maybe. I don't think the UK has a bad building culture per se but the age of the housing stock is a huge problem. 12% of houses in England and 8% of homes in Wales were built before 1900 so they are incredibly inefficient in energy use.

Even new builds in uk are terrible when it comes to heating/insulation.

The uk working class coupled with the Slavs and Islamists is a toxic combo that is no where near as good in construction as our working class and Hispanic workforce

I don’t think people understand just how grim 🇬🇧 is on a multitude of measures

I must have missed the latest international index of poor ethnic combinations in construction. Fortunately, my Slavic builder father has died so I don't have to deliver the bad news.

NP relax .

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Anonymous wrote:Europe is poor. So many Americans are woefully unaware of how extremely low salaries are in Europe. Life expectancy is low in the US, but ours is also dragged down because the US deals with a lot more complicated births that'd be terminated in Europe. When kids die below 2 years old, it drags down the mean life expectancy by a lot.

Do you get 6-8 weeks vacation a year? How many of your friends and relatives do?

I currently have 400+ hours of vacation.

Why in the hell would I want 8 weeks vacation? That's why Europeans are poor. Their productivity is trash, they barely invent anything anymore, and life for them is about coasting by with your bare essentials met. Hey, if mediocrity appeals to you, move to Europe.

All of the vacation and time off in Europe is so overrated. The trade off are often salaries that are nearly half of what you'd get paid in the US. I don't want or need 8 weeks off. Pay me more money please, thanks.

You know you can’t take it with you, right? Everyone dies. No one brings their bank account to the afterworld.

This is how bums, non-inventors, and lazy people think. Living in the UK, for example, making $50k salary that you'd easily get paid $100k for in the US sucks. People in Europe constantly scrape by because of extremely low salaries, stagnant exonomies, and incomes thst just never grow. It's almost as if you missed the yellow vest protests in France. Buy hey, at least you got 8 weeks of vacation while you're poor.

Lol.

My European friends might live in somewhat smaller homes than most Americans (1800-2000 sq ft vs 2500) but you know what those lazy bums have that most Americans don’t? High quality building materials and fixtures. Real masonry. Solid walls and doors, not hollow. High end, better efficiency windows, not the crappy kind most American homes are built with. Sturdy, long-lasting door handles and locks that would only be found in high end custom built American home. Their bathrooms and kitchens have only high quality materials, not cheap plastic parts or low grade sinks and countertops. Their homes are built to last and are energy efficient. This is true even of friends who live in condos.

And they still get 6-8 weeks off a year. Plus they never worry about a medical crisis driving them to bankruptcy.

Poor lazy bums!

This is actually backwards. American houses have excellent insulation and people live through the winter. In Europe, houses lack insulation and people die every winter from cold.

http://globalag.igc.org/health/world/cold.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784

Some folks in TX died during the freeze last winter. Their houses weren't insulated for the freeze. Several died in their homes due to hypothermia.

Over 1300 people die in cold houses in London yearly. Ireland, Portugal and Spain all have high numbers of cold death in the winter.

They build lousy houses in Europe.

Huh? Are you saying 1300 died of hyperthermia? Would love to see your source.

Not pp in quote but different pp in thread —

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/dying-cold-europe-fuel-poverty-energy-spending

Across the uk it’s a huge amount

I don’t think you understand how crappy a lot of uk homes are.

Uk has a very bad building culture

Of course I understand how crappy a lot of UK homes are. I have one of those crappy homes and spend a fortune on fixing problems that are unfixable.

I am the first PP. I came across that statistic awhile back and was shocked. I looked into it and saw it repeated several times. Every year, thousands die of the cold (and this year thousands died from heatwaves). In the US, except for the one cold winter in Texas and the recent storm in Buffalo, dying from cold is unusual. And the people in Buffalo all died outside or in care, not in their houses. In the US, houses have insulation. In the UK, they don't. And it kills people every year.

I confess I'm be a little sceptical about the stat given it was produced by a charity that is unlikely to have an independent view. But yes, maybe. I don't think the UK has a bad building culture per se but the age of the housing stock is a huge problem. 12% of houses in England and 8% of homes in Wales were built before 1900 so they are incredibly inefficient in energy use.

Even new builds in uk are terrible when it comes to heating/insulation.

The uk working class coupled with the Slavs and Islamists is a toxic combo that is no where near as good in construction as our working class and Hispanic workforce

I don’t think people understand just how grim 🇬🇧 is on a multitude of measures

I must have missed the latest international index of poor ethnic combinations in construction. Fortunately, my Slavic builder father has died so I don't have to deliver the bad news.

NP relax .

Pp here - off topic but
Eastern euro heritage Americans are always to tetchy no matter how long they’ve been in the 🇺🇸

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Anonymous wrote:Europe is poor. So many Americans are woefully unaware of how extremely low salaries are in Europe. Life expectancy is low in the US, but ours is also dragged down because the US deals with a lot more complicated births that'd be terminated in Europe. When kids die below 2 years old, it drags down the mean life expectancy by a lot.

Do you get 6-8 weeks vacation a year? How many of your friends and relatives do?

I currently have 400+ hours of vacation.

Why in the hell would I want 8 weeks vacation? That's why Europeans are poor. Their productivity is trash, they barely invent anything anymore, and life for them is about coasting by with your bare essentials met. Hey, if mediocrity appeals to you, move to Europe.

All of the vacation and time off in Europe is so overrated. The trade off are often salaries that are nearly half of what you'd get paid in the US. I don't want or need 8 weeks off. Pay me more money please, thanks.

You know you can’t take it with you, right? Everyone dies. No one brings their bank account to the afterworld.

This is how bums, non-inventors, and lazy people think. Living in the UK, for example, making $50k salary that you'd easily get paid $100k for in the US sucks. People in Europe constantly scrape by because of extremely low salaries, stagnant exonomies, and incomes thst just never grow. It's almost as if you missed the yellow vest protests in France. Buy hey, at least you got 8 weeks of vacation while you're poor.

Lol.

My European friends might live in somewhat smaller homes than most Americans (1800-2000 sq ft vs 2500) but you know what those lazy bums have that most Americans don’t? High quality building materials and fixtures. Real masonry. Solid walls and doors, not hollow. High end, better efficiency windows, not the crappy kind most American homes are built with. Sturdy, long-lasting door handles and locks that would only be found in high end custom built American home. Their bathrooms and kitchens have only high quality materials, not cheap plastic parts or low grade sinks and countertops. Their homes are built to last and are energy efficient. This is true even of friends who live in condos.

And they still get 6-8 weeks off a year. Plus they never worry about a medical crisis driving them to bankruptcy.

Poor lazy bums!

This is actually backwards. American houses have excellent insulation and people live through the winter. In Europe, houses lack insulation and people die every winter from cold.

http://globalag.igc.org/health/world/cold.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784

Some folks in TX died during the freeze last winter. Their houses weren't insulated for the freeze. Several died in their homes due to hypothermia.

Over 1300 people die in cold houses in London yearly. Ireland, Portugal and Spain all have high numbers of cold death in the winter.

They build lousy houses in Europe.

Huh? Are you saying 1300 died of hyperthermia? Would love to see your source.

Not pp in quote but different pp in thread —

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/dying-cold-europe-fuel-poverty-energy-spending

Across the uk it’s a huge amount

I don’t think you understand how crappy a lot of uk homes are.

Uk has a very bad building culture

Of course I understand how crappy a lot of UK homes are. I have one of those crappy homes and spend a fortune on fixing problems that are unfixable.

I am the first PP. I came across that statistic awhile back and was shocked. I looked into it and saw it repeated several times. Every year, thousands die of the cold (and this year thousands died from heatwaves). In the US, except for the one cold winter in Texas and the recent storm in Buffalo, dying from cold is unusual. And the people in Buffalo all died outside or in care, not in their houses. In the US, houses have insulation. In the UK, they don't. And it kills people every year.

I confess I'm be a little sceptical about the stat given it was produced by a charity that is unlikely to have an independent view. But yes, maybe. I don't think the UK has a bad building culture per se but the age of the housing stock is a huge problem. 12% of houses in England and 8% of homes in Wales were built before 1900 so they are incredibly inefficient in energy use.

Even new builds in uk are terrible when it comes to heating/insulation.

The uk working class coupled with the Slavs and Islamists is a toxic combo that is no where near as good in construction as our working class and Hispanic workforce

I don’t think people understand just how grim 🇬🇧 is on a multitude of measures

I must have missed the latest international index of poor ethnic combinations in construction. Fortunately, my Slavic builder father has died so I don't have to deliver the bad news.

NP relax .

Pp here - off topic but
Eastern euro heritage Americans are always to tetchy no matter how long they’ve been in the 🇺🇸

You don’t think saying it’s a tad offensive (and rather ridiculous in this context) to say that British working class, Muslims and Slavs make a toxic combo?

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Anonymous wrote:Europe is poor. So many Americans are woefully unaware of how extremely low salaries are in Europe. Life expectancy is low in the US, but ours is also dragged down because the US deals with a lot more complicated births that'd be terminated in Europe. When kids die below 2 years old, it drags down the mean life expectancy by a lot.

Do you get 6-8 weeks vacation a year? How many of your friends and relatives do?

I currently have 400+ hours of vacation.

Why in the hell would I want 8 weeks vacation? That's why Europeans are poor. Their productivity is trash, they barely invent anything anymore, and life for them is about coasting by with your bare essentials met. Hey, if mediocrity appeals to you, move to Europe.

All of the vacation and time off in Europe is so overrated. The trade off are often salaries that are nearly half of what you'd get paid in the US. I don't want or need 8 weeks off. Pay me more money please, thanks.

You know you can’t take it with you, right? Everyone dies. No one brings their bank account to the afterworld.

This is how bums, non-inventors, and lazy people think. Living in the UK, for example, making $50k salary that you'd easily get paid $100k for in the US sucks. People in Europe constantly scrape by because of extremely low salaries, stagnant exonomies, and incomes thst just never grow. It's almost as if you missed the yellow vest protests in France. Buy hey, at least you got 8 weeks of vacation while you're poor.

Lol.

My European friends might live in somewhat smaller homes than most Americans (1800-2000 sq ft vs 2500) but you know what those lazy bums have that most Americans don’t? High quality building materials and fixtures. Real masonry. Solid walls and doors, not hollow. High end, better efficiency windows, not the crappy kind most American homes are built with. Sturdy, long-lasting door handles and locks that would only be found in high end custom built American home. Their bathrooms and kitchens have only high quality materials, not cheap plastic parts or low grade sinks and countertops. Their homes are built to last and are energy efficient. This is true even of friends who live in condos.

And they still get 6-8 weeks off a year. Plus they never worry about a medical crisis driving them to bankruptcy.

Poor lazy bums!

This is actually backwards. American houses have excellent insulation and people live through the winter. In Europe, houses lack insulation and people die every winter from cold.

http://globalag.igc.org/health/world/cold.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784

Some folks in TX died during the freeze last winter. Their houses weren't insulated for the freeze. Several died in their homes due to hypothermia.

Over 1300 people die in cold houses in London yearly. Ireland, Portugal and Spain all have high numbers of cold death in the winter.

They build lousy houses in Europe.

Huh? Are you saying 1300 died of hyperthermia? Would love to see your source.

Not pp in quote but different pp in thread —

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/dying-cold-europe-fuel-poverty-energy-spending

Across the uk it’s a huge amount

I don’t think you understand how crappy a lot of uk homes are.

Uk has a very bad building culture

Of course I understand how crappy a lot of UK homes are. I have one of those crappy homes and spend a fortune on fixing problems that are unfixable.

I am the first PP. I came across that statistic awhile back and was shocked. I looked into it and saw it repeated several times. Every year, thousands die of the cold (and this year thousands died from heatwaves). In the US, except for the one cold winter in Texas and the recent storm in Buffalo, dying from cold is unusual. And the people in Buffalo all died outside or in care, not in their houses. In the US, houses have insulation. In the UK, they don't. And it kills people every year.

I confess I'm be a little sceptical about the stat given it was produced by a charity that is unlikely to have an independent view. But yes, maybe. I don't think the UK has a bad building culture per se but the age of the housing stock is a huge problem. 12% of houses in England and 8% of homes in Wales were built before 1900 so they are incredibly inefficient in energy use.

Even new builds in uk are terrible when it comes to heating/insulation.

The uk working class coupled with the Slavs and Islamists is a toxic combo that is no where near as good in construction as our working class and Hispanic workforce

I don’t think people understand just how grim 🇬🇧 is on a multitude of measures

I must have missed the latest international index of poor ethnic combinations in construction. Fortunately, my Slavic builder father has died so I don't have to deliver the bad news.

NP relax .

Pp here - off topic but
Eastern euro heritage Americans are always to tetchy no matter how long they’ve been in the 🇺🇸

You don’t think saying it’s a tad offensive (and rather ridiculous in this context) to say that British working class, Muslims and Slavs make a toxic combo?

Have you lived in the uk for any bit of time?

Home office last year released stats on which foreigners make up most of the prisoners in the uk. 1. Albanians 2. Polish

Page 13

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04334/SN04334.pdf

Now when you consider the % of thr overall population that is Albanian or polish, it’s a crazy level of criminality.

Lot of eastern euros rounding out the top ten there.

The domestic British working class also are very chavvy and full of yobs

And their Islamic population is very different from the 🇺🇸 Islamic population. The 🇺🇸 one is much higher in ses.

So when you add up all of these factors, you quickly understand why the 🇺🇸 working class and our Hispanic immigrant class is much much much better than the mix and levels you see in 🇬🇧

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Anonymous wrote:Europe is poor. So many Americans are woefully unaware of how extremely low salaries are in Europe. Life expectancy is low in the US, but ours is also dragged down because the US deals with a lot more complicated births that'd be terminated in Europe. When kids die below 2 years old, it drags down the mean life expectancy by a lot.

Do you get 6-8 weeks vacation a year? How many of your friends and relatives do?

I currently have 400+ hours of vacation.

Why in the hell would I want 8 weeks vacation? That's why Europeans are poor. Their productivity is trash, they barely invent anything anymore, and life for them is about coasting by with your bare essentials met. Hey, if mediocrity appeals to you, move to Europe.

All of the vacation and time off in Europe is so overrated. The trade off are often salaries that are nearly half of what you'd get paid in the US. I don't want or need 8 weeks off. Pay me more money please, thanks.

You know you can’t take it with you, right? Everyone dies. No one brings their bank account to the afterworld.

This is how bums, non-inventors, and lazy people think. Living in the UK, for example, making $50k salary that you'd easily get paid $100k for in the US sucks. People in Europe constantly scrape by because of extremely low salaries, stagnant exonomies, and incomes thst just never grow. It's almost as if you missed the yellow vest protests in France. Buy hey, at least you got 8 weeks of vacation while you're poor.

Lol.

My European friends might live in somewhat smaller homes than most Americans (1800-2000 sq ft vs 2500) but you know what those lazy bums have that most Americans don’t? High quality building materials and fixtures. Real masonry. Solid walls and doors, not hollow. High end, better efficiency windows, not the crappy kind most American homes are built with. Sturdy, long-lasting door handles and locks that would only be found in high end custom built American home. Their bathrooms and kitchens have only high quality materials, not cheap plastic parts or low grade sinks and countertops. Their homes are built to last and are energy efficient. This is true even of friends who live in condos.

And they still get 6-8 weeks off a year. Plus they never worry about a medical crisis driving them to bankruptcy.

Poor lazy bums!

This is actually backwards. American houses have excellent insulation and people live through the winter. In Europe, houses lack insulation and people die every winter from cold.

http://globalag.igc.org/health/world/cold.htm

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/cold-weather-uk-winter-deaths-europe-polar-vortex-a8224276.html

https://jech.bmj.com/content/57/10/784

Some folks in TX died during the freeze last winter. Their houses weren't insulated for the freeze. Several died in their homes due to hypothermia.

Over 1300 people die in cold houses in London yearly. Ireland, Portugal and Spain all have high numbers of cold death in the winter.

They build lousy houses in Europe.

Huh? Are you saying 1300 died of hyperthermia? Would love to see your source.

Not pp in quote but different pp in thread —

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/27/dying-cold-europe-fuel-poverty-energy-spending

Across the uk it’s a huge amount

I don’t think you understand how crappy a lot of uk homes are.

Uk has a very bad building culture

Of course I understand how crappy a lot of UK homes are. I have one of those crappy homes and spend a fortune on fixing problems that are unfixable.

I am the first PP. I came across that statistic awhile back and was shocked. I looked into it and saw it repeated several times. Every year, thousands die of the cold (and this year thousands died from heatwaves). In the US, except for the one cold winter in Texas and the recent storm in Buffalo, dying from cold is unusual. And the people in Buffalo all died outside or in care, not in their houses. In the US, houses have insulation. In the UK, they don't. And it kills people every year.

I confess I'm be a little sceptical about the stat given it was produced by a charity that is unlikely to have an independent view. But yes, maybe. I don't think the UK has a bad building culture per se but the age of the housing stock is a huge problem. 12% of houses in England and 8% of homes in Wales were built before 1900 so they are incredibly inefficient in energy use.

Even new builds in uk are terrible when it comes to heating/insulation.

The uk working class coupled with the Slavs and Islamists is a toxic combo that is no where near as good in construction as our working class and Hispanic workforce

I don’t think people understand just how grim 🇬🇧 is on a multitude of measures

I must have missed the latest international index of poor ethnic combinations in construction. Fortunately, my Slavic builder father has died so I don't have to deliver the bad news.

NP relax .

Pp here - off topic but
Eastern euro heritage Americans are always to tetchy no matter how long they’ve been in the 🇺🇸

You don’t think saying it’s a tad offensive (and rather ridiculous in this context) to say that British working class, Muslims and Slavs make a toxic combo?

Have you lived in the uk for any bit of time?

Home office last year released stats on which foreigners make up most of the prisoners in the uk. 1. Albanians 2. Polish

Page 13

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04334/SN04334.pdf

Now when you consider the % of thr overall population that is Albanian or polish, it’s a crazy level of criminality.

Lot of eastern euros rounding out the top ten there.

The domestic British working class also are very chavvy and full of yobs

And their Islamic population is very different from the 🇺🇸 Islamic population. The 🇺🇸 one is much higher in ses.

So when you add up all of these factors, you quickly understand why the 🇺🇸 working class and our Hispanic immigrant class is much much much better than the mix and levels you see in 🇬🇧

Yeah. I have spent a bit of time in the UK. I am British. All I can say is thank God for Polish tradesmen and builders.