62 yo man killed in Silver Spring garage

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lived in downtown Silver Spring for 10 years (2000 to 2010). Sometimes I had to work late and I was never comfortable coming out of the metro station at 10pm and walking to my apartment. Often my husband would come get me.

Sad that it hasn't changed.

No one should be comfortable walking out of metro at 10 PM anywhere in the DMV.

If having transit stations makes us so unsafe that we cannot leave our homes after dark then why should we want more transit stations?

Because we want to be able to leave our homes after dark.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lived in downtown Silver Spring for 10 years (2000 to 2010). Sometimes I had to work late and I was never comfortable coming out of the metro station at 10pm and walking to my apartment. Often my husband would come get me.

Sad that it hasn't changed.

No one should be comfortable walking out of metro at 10 PM anywhere in the DMV.

If having transit stations makes us so unsafe that we cannot leave our homes after dark then why should we want more transit stations?

Because we want to be able to leave our homes after dark.

Okay, so we need transit because we need to be able to leave our homes after dark, however if you use transit after dark you should expect to be met with violence. I’m not a brain genius, but this does not seem like something that I would want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lived in downtown Silver Spring for 10 years (2000 to 2010). Sometimes I had to work late and I was never comfortable coming out of the metro station at 10pm and walking to my apartment. Often my husband would come get me.

Sad that it hasn't changed.

No one should be comfortable walking out of metro at 10 PM anywhere in the DMV.

If having transit stations makes us so unsafe that we cannot leave our homes after dark then why should we want more transit stations?

Because we want to be able to leave our homes after dark.

Okay, so we need transit because we need to be able to leave our homes after dark, however if you use transit after dark you should expect to be met with violence. I’m not a brain genius, but this does not seem like something that I would want.

I use transit after dark, and I don't expect to be met with violence. Was the man murdered in Silver Spring using transit after dark?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lived in downtown Silver Spring for 10 years (2000 to 2010). Sometimes I had to work late and I was never comfortable coming out of the metro station at 10pm and walking to my apartment. Often my husband would come get me.

Sad that it hasn't changed.

No one should be comfortable walking out of metro at 10 PM anywhere in the DMV.

If having transit stations makes us so unsafe that we cannot leave our homes after dark then why should we want more transit stations?

Because we want to be able to leave our homes after dark.

Okay, so we need transit because we need to be able to leave our homes after dark, however if you use transit after dark you should expect to be met with violence. I’m not a brain genius, but this does not seem like something that I would want.

I use transit after dark, and I don't expect to be met with violence. Was the man murdered in Silver Spring using transit after dark?

The head in sand brigade that wants to make excuses for this murder say Silver Spring is no more dangerous than anywhere else and particularly DTSS near the transit station. They say that if you are near transit after dark in the DMV, you should expect violence. I am not the one who is arguing this. I am just asking questions about this because if it is true, then we should not want transit in our communities if we also have to accept the risk of getting murdered.

No one should be comfortable walking out of metro at 10 PM anywhere in the DMV.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The police have got to do a better job in DTSS. It seems to attract youth from neighboring areas and shootings have gotten out of control. Years ago, it wasn't like this. It's a shame and I feel sorry for the businesses that will suffer when people don't feel safe going there anymore.

There have only been a few people shot in DTSS in the last few years. Lots of other crimes, lots of gunshots at night with no one reported hit, but there isn’t an epidemic of people being shot.

And what do you mean about attracting youth from neighboring areas? Bringing in people who don’t live in 20910 is a goal of the area. 20910 residents can’t support businesses on our own. We want people to come from all over to shop, eat, and enjoy entertainment and recreation venues. Most youth are not committing any crimes. They are however, often working class and Black or Brown which triggers the gentrifiers. Not louder than WJ and Churchill kids at Montgomery Mall. Not ruder than kids at Whitman, Wootten,or MoCo’s private HSs.

WJ, Churchill, Wooten, Whitman, and private school kids are not shooting people in parking garage stairwells.

Neither are my sons and their friends who like to go to SS to movies and the like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The police have got to do a better job in DTSS. It seems to attract youth from neighboring areas and shootings have gotten out of control. Years ago, it wasn't like this. It's a shame and I feel sorry for the businesses that will suffer when people don't feel safe going there anymore.

There have only been a few people shot in DTSS in the last few years. Lots of other crimes, lots of gunshots at night with no one reported hit, but there isn’t an epidemic of people being shot.

And what do you mean about attracting youth from neighboring areas? Bringing in people who don’t live in 20910 is a goal of the area. 20910 residents can’t support businesses on our own. We want people to come from all over to shop, eat, and enjoy entertainment and recreation venues. Most youth are not committing any crimes. They are however, often working class and Black or Brown which triggers the gentrifiers. Not louder than WJ and Churchill kids at Montgomery Mall. Not ruder than kids at Whitman, Wootten,or MoCo’s private HSs.

WJ, Churchill, Wooten, Whitman, and private school kids are not shooting people in parking garage stairwells.

Neither are my sons and their friends who like to go to SS to movies and the like.

Are you afraid that they may be victims of violence going out in SS? Do you give them any advice to take precautions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The police have got to do a better job in DTSS. It seems to attract youth from neighboring areas and shootings have gotten out of control. Years ago, it wasn't like this. It's a shame and I feel sorry for the businesses that will suffer when people don't feel safe going there anymore.

There have only been a few people shot in DTSS in the last few years. Lots of other crimes, lots of gunshots at night with no one reported hit, but there isn’t an epidemic of people being shot.

And what do you mean about attracting youth from neighboring areas? Bringing in people who don’t live in 20910 is a goal of the area. 20910 residents can’t support businesses on our own. We want people to come from all over to shop, eat, and enjoy entertainment and recreation venues. Most youth are not committing any crimes. They are however, often working class and Black or Brown which triggers the gentrifiers. Not louder than WJ and Churchill kids at Montgomery Mall. Not ruder than kids at Whitman, Wootten,or MoCo’s private HSs.

WJ, Churchill, Wooten, Whitman, and private school kids are not shooting people in parking garage stairwells.

A WJ graduate stabbed someone in Montgomery mall parking garage.

A Whitman student killed his mom.

Hugely killed his girlfriend Love

So yes student from those schools kill people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
The head in sand brigade that wants to make excuses for this murder say Silver Spring is no more dangerous than anywhere else and particularly DTSS near the transit station. They say that if you are near transit after dark in the DMV, you should expect violence. I am not the one who is arguing this. I am just asking questions about this because if it is true, then we should not want transit in our communities if we also have to accept the risk of getting murdered.

Who exactly is this "we" who should not want transit in "our" communities, and which transit are you saying "we" should not want? And why aren't you saying that "we" should not want parking garages, which is where the murder actually occurred?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The police have got to do a better job in DTSS. It seems to attract youth from neighboring areas and shootings have gotten out of control. Years ago, it wasn't like this. It's a shame and I feel sorry for the businesses that will suffer when people don't feel safe going there anymore.

There have only been a few people shot in DTSS in the last few years. Lots of other crimes, lots of gunshots at night with no one reported hit, but there isn’t an epidemic of people being shot.

And what do you mean about attracting youth from neighboring areas? Bringing in people who don’t live in 20910 is a goal of the area. 20910 residents can’t support businesses on our own. We want people to come from all over to shop, eat, and enjoy entertainment and recreation venues. Most youth are not committing any crimes. They are however, often working class and Black or Brown which triggers the gentrifiers. Not louder than WJ and Churchill kids at Montgomery Mall. Not ruder than kids at Whitman, Wootten,or MoCo’s private HSs.

WJ, Churchill, Wooten, Whitman, and private school kids are not shooting people in parking garage stairwells.

A WJ graduate stabbed someone in Montgomery mall parking garage.

A Whitman student killed his mom.

Hugely killed his girlfriend Love

So yes student from those schools kill people.

Oh hey and Sheinbein went to Wootton

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I lived in downtown Silver Spring for 10 years (2000 to 2010). Sometimes I had to work late and I was never comfortable coming out of the metro station at 10pm and walking to my apartment. Often my husband would come get me.

Sad that it hasn't changed.

No one should be comfortable walking out of metro at 10 PM anywhere in the DMV.

If having transit stations makes us so unsafe that we cannot leave our homes after dark then why should we want more transit stations?

Because we want to be able to leave our homes after dark.

Okay, so we need transit because we need to be able to leave our homes after dark, however if you use transit after dark you should expect to be met with violence. I’m not a brain genius, but this does not seem like something that I would want.

No, he was killed in a parking garage.
What these posters mean is that they think poor people travel by transit to “nice” areas to commit crimes against “nice” people who can afford cars. They would like to restrict these areas to car owners like themselves. They don’t consider that the service workers who make these areas nice might not own cars or that there are “nice” poor people or physically disabled people who would lose access to these stores, restaurants, and movie theaters.
I use transit after dark, and I don't expect to be met with violence. Was the man murdered in Silver Spring using transit after dark?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
The head in sand brigade that wants to make excuses for this murder say Silver Spring is no more dangerous than anywhere else and particularly DTSS near the transit station. They say that if you are near transit after dark in the DMV, you should expect violence. I am not the one who is arguing this. I am just asking questions about this because if it is true, then we should not want transit in our communities if we also have to accept the risk of getting murdered.

Who exactly is this "we" who should not want transit in "our" communities, and which transit are you saying "we" should not want? And why aren't you saying that "we" should not want parking garages, which is where the murder actually occurred?

Metro stations, train stations, bus stations and exits to major road have a high crime rate every where in the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The police have got to do a better job in DTSS. It seems to attract youth from neighboring areas and shootings have gotten out of control. Years ago, it wasn't like this. It's a shame and I feel sorry for the businesses that will suffer when people don't feel safe going there anymore.

There have only been a few people shot in DTSS in the last few years. Lots of other crimes, lots of gunshots at night with no one reported hit, but there isn’t an epidemic of people being shot.

And what do you mean about attracting youth from neighboring areas? Bringing in people who don’t live in 20910 is a goal of the area. 20910 residents can’t support businesses on our own. We want people to come from all over to shop, eat, and enjoy entertainment and recreation venues. Most youth are not committing any crimes. They are however, often working class and Black or Brown which triggers the gentrifiers. Not louder than WJ and Churchill kids at Montgomery Mall. Not ruder than kids at Whitman, Wootten,or MoCo’s private HSs.

WJ, Churchill, Wooten, Whitman, and private school kids are not shooting people in parking garage stairwells.

Neither are my sons and their friends who like to go to SS to movies and the like.

Are you afraid that they may be victims of violence going out in SS? Do you give them any advice to take precautions?

DP. My son, daughter, and their friends hang out in DTSS 2-3 times a week. I worry more that the boys (all AA and African honor students at Blair) will be harassed or physically harmed by the police than I worry they will be robbed, stabbed, or shot by criminals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The late night hookah bars aren't helping.


https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/03/18/downtown-silver-spring-condo-residents-press-county-for-limits-on-bars-hookah-lounges/

That was the opportunity to do something, but instead the white YIMBY/urbanist bros declared that doing anything about this would be racist.

These very same white dudes who tried so hard to prevent effective action to reduce the violence are now quite angry and aggressive about anyone pointing out that’s it’s a problem after the violence has escalated to the point that it’s unsafe to go out with your family for dinner. They now don’t even want people to talk about the violence.

RIGHT!? There's nothing racist about targeting businesses that just so happen to serve black people. We're not making people go to those places!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I lived in downtown Silver Spring for 10 years (2000 to 2010). Sometimes I had to work late and I was never comfortable coming out of the metro station at 10pm and walking to my apartment. Often my husband would come get me.

Sad that it hasn't changed.

In the 80’s I took the metro bus after dark, I sat next to the driver and my parents picked me up
At the stop instead of walking. This isn’t new.

At UMCP, if you studied after dark in the library you could get an escort home.

This is not new

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The late night hookah bars aren't helping.


https://bethesdamagazine.com/2022/03/18/downtown-silver-spring-condo-residents-press-county-for-limits-on-bars-hookah-lounges/

That was the opportunity to do something, but instead the white YIMBY/urbanist bros declared that doing anything about this would be racist.

These very same white dudes who tried so hard to prevent effective action to reduce the violence are now quite angry and aggressive about anyone pointing out that’s it’s a problem after the violence has escalated to the point that it’s unsafe to go out with your family for dinner. They now don’t even want people to talk about the violence.

RIGHT!? There's nothing racist about targeting businesses that just so happen to serve black people. We're not making people go to those places!

I agree with you. There is nothing racist about targeting businesses that are incubating nuisances and crime. And if they had taken action six months ago that man could very well still be alive today.