Are all the schools like that?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it the pandemic, or have kids always been so badly behaved? My kids are in lower ES, in a decent school (nothing fancy but ok). I like the school, teachers and staff. But the stuff my kids are telling me is shocking to me. My 1st grader is hearing insults from her peers everyday (not specifically directed to her): F word, middle fingers, mean comments. Boys who used to be her friends now tease her in the school bus, kids ganging up on others, calling them names. Things are even worse in my 3rd grader's class. A handful of badly behaved boys are disrupting class, calling names, N word... They seem to be popular too, which sucks for my son. As a result, the teacher's attention is going to the trouble-makers and the nice kids just go unnoticed. Did the parents just give up? Are the schools not enforcing discipline?

what is your greatschools rating, FARMS and demographics?

6/10 rating. Small school. Roughly 1/3 white, 1/3 asian, 1/3 latino. What does FARM stand for?

Free And Reduced Meals

6 is not a good rating, look for 8 or higher, we left a 6 when the 2nd graders started wearing miniskirts and crop tops and asking our child about dating / kissing.

Sweetie, there is MORE of this as the high SES schools. My daughter has been begging us to buy her crop tops and ripped jeans and only from specific brands. Also her friends are wearing Sephora-bought makeup in 4th grade.

Nothing like this at our high SES school, kids in 6th grade are in sweats and leggings/jeans. No make up etc.

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Anonymous wrote:According to my sister, bad behavior by students was a 6/10 before the pandemic.

After the pandemic, it was a 10/10 most days if not worse.

She resigned after last year and has never been happier.

Just check out Teacher Tok on TikTok. So many teachers have posted examples of the bad behavior in their classrooms and videos on why they are quitting/have quit.

I live in Loudoun County but work in the western part of FCPS. I would NEVER allow my kids to attend the school I work at. I’m only there because of the commute and it’s a little better than some of the other schools. My parents that have remotely smart kids are trying to get them in AAP to get them out and I don’t blame them one bit. Their education is a risk if they stay at this school.

Are your kids in private or LCPS?

LCPS

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Anonymous wrote:According to my sister, bad behavior by students was a 6/10 before the pandemic.

After the pandemic, it was a 10/10 most days if not worse.

She resigned after last year and has never been happier.

Just check out Teacher Tok on TikTok. So many teachers have posted examples of the bad behavior in their classrooms and videos on why they are quitting/have quit.

I live in Loudoun County but work in the western part of FCPS. I would NEVER allow my kids to attend the school I work at. I’m only there because of the commute and it’s a little better than some of the other schools. My parents that have remotely smart kids are trying to get them in AAP to get them out and I don’t blame them one bit. Their education is a risk if they stay at this school.

Are your kids in private or LCPS?

LCPS

I thought those systems were pretty similar in population and academics?

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Anonymous wrote:Is it the pandemic, or have kids always been so badly behaved? My kids are in lower ES, in a decent school (nothing fancy but ok). I like the school, teachers and staff. But the stuff my kids are telling me is shocking to me. My 1st grader is hearing insults from her peers everyday (not specifically directed to her): F word, middle fingers, mean comments. Boys who used to be her friends now tease her in the school bus, kids ganging up on others, calling them names. Things are even worse in my 3rd grader's class. A handful of badly behaved boys are disrupting class, calling names, N word... They seem to be popular too, which sucks for my son. As a result, the teacher's attention is going to the trouble-makers and the nice kids just go unnoticed. Did the parents just give up? Are the schools not enforcing discipline?

what is your greatschools rating, FARMS and demographics?

6/10 rating. Small school. Roughly 1/3 white, 1/3 asian, 1/3 latino. What does FARM stand for?

Free And Reduced Meals

6 is not a good rating, look for 8 or higher, we left a 6 when the 2nd graders started wearing miniskirts and crop tops and asking our child about dating / kissing.

Sweetie, there is MORE of this as the high SES schools. My daughter has been begging us to buy her crop tops and ripped jeans and only from specific brands. Also her friends are wearing Sephora-bought makeup in 4th grade.

Nothing like this at our high SES school, kids in 6th grade are in sweats and leggings/jeans. No make up etc.

It’s almost like….hear me out… we can’t make generalizations to whole populations based on personal experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it the pandemic, or have kids always been so badly behaved? My kids are in lower ES, in a decent school (nothing fancy but ok). I like the school, teachers and staff. But the stuff my kids are telling me is shocking to me. My 1st grader is hearing insults from her peers everyday (not specifically directed to her): F word, middle fingers, mean comments. Boys who used to be her friends now tease her in the school bus, kids ganging up on others, calling them names. Things are even worse in my 3rd grader's class. A handful of badly behaved boys are disrupting class, calling names, N word... They seem to be popular too, which sucks for my son. As a result, the teacher's attention is going to the trouble-makers and the nice kids just go unnoticed. Did the parents just give up? Are the schools not enforcing discipline?

what is your greatschools rating, FARMS and demographics?

6/10 rating. Small school. Roughly 1/3 white, 1/3 asian, 1/3 latino. What does FARM stand for?

Free And Reduced Meals

6 is not a good rating, look for 8 or higher, we left a 6 when the 2nd graders started wearing miniskirts and crop tops and asking our child about dating / kissing.

Sweetie, there is MORE of this as the high SES schools. My daughter has been begging us to buy her crop tops and ripped jeans and only from specific brands. Also her friends are wearing Sephora-bought makeup in 4th grade.

Nothing like this at our high SES school, kids in 6th grade are in sweats and leggings/jeans. No make up etc.

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Same thing at our high SES schools (elementary, middle, and high). No brand leggings, hoodies, sneakers, no makeup. No one cares.

[Anonymous]

I have kids in lower ES, as well, but my experience is the opposite. The teachers are always gushing about how these are the best classes ever and that the kids are so nice and helpful to one another. My kids have never come home with any tattle-telling gossip about bad things going on in their classrooms, but I’m sure not all the kids are complete angels at all times. (Class sizes are small to average and teachers tend to like working for this school and tend to live nearby, as well.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it the pandemic, or have kids always been so badly behaved? My kids are in lower ES, in a decent school (nothing fancy but ok). I like the school, teachers and staff. But the stuff my kids are telling me is shocking to me. My 1st grader is hearing insults from her peers everyday (not specifically directed to her): F word, middle fingers, mean comments. Boys who used to be her friends now tease her in the school bus, kids ganging up on others, calling them names. Things are even worse in my 3rd grader's class. A handful of badly behaved boys are disrupting class, calling names, N word... They seem to be popular too, which sucks for my son. As a result, the teacher's attention is going to the trouble-makers and the nice kids just go unnoticed. Did the parents just give up? Are the schools not enforcing discipline?

I never heard the N word, but F words, middle fingers and mean comments were in my middle class (real middle class, not DCUM “middle class”) public school by 3rd or so grade and I’m GenX.

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Anonymous wrote:The phone issue is the huge, huge elephant in the room that no one wants to really address. "Away for the day" kind of works for the rule following kids at school, but even so, many kids are spending hours and hours outside of school on their phones and it's not good.

Yes, the phone as babysitter is the real problem, and it’s destroying their attention spans, but it’s so much easier to blame teachers, schools and OMG COVID!

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Anonymous wrote:Veteran teacher here. It is significantly worse now. I am at a school in Fairfax with lots of military families and professional families, whete almost every kid lives in a nice, single-family home. Kids are out of control. I attribute it to kids having phones and so much screen time, the pandemic, and poor role models on social media and in the government. Since 2017 it has gotten so bad. It’s sad.

I think screens/phones/social media are a huge problem. Why do kids need social media? I have 6th graders obsessed with Tik Tok and Snap Chat. I personally think that kids under the age of 16 should not be on social media at all.

I've been teaching MS and HS for 19 years. Phones and especially social media are the crux of the issue IMO, and many parents are just as bad on their phones and have sense of what their modeling for their kids. Just a few minutes ago, driving into school, I saw a mom staring at her phone in the lane next to me, while driving, with her kids in the back.