Are all the schools like that?

[Anonymous]

Is it the pandemic, or have kids always been so badly behaved? My kids are in lower ES, in a decent school (nothing fancy but ok). I like the school, teachers and staff. But the stuff my kids are telling me is shocking to me. My 1st grader is hearing insults from her peers everyday (not specifically directed to her): F word, middle fingers, mean comments. Boys who used to be her friends now tease her in the school bus, kids ganging up on others, calling them names. Things are even worse in my 3rd grader's class. A handful of badly behaved boys are disrupting class, calling names, N word... They seem to be popular too, which sucks for my son. As a result, the teacher's attention is going to the trouble-makers and the nice kids just go unnoticed. Did the parents just give up? Are the schools not enforcing discipline?

[Anonymous]

It's been that way for yeas. Avoiding behavioral problems is why so many parents try so had to get AAP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it the pandemic, or have kids always been so badly behaved? My kids are in lower ES, in a decent school (nothing fancy but ok). I like the school, teachers and staff. But the stuff my kids are telling me is shocking to me. My 1st grader is hearing insults from her peers everyday (not specifically directed to her): F word, middle fingers, mean comments. Boys who used to be her friends now tease her in the school bus, kids ganging up on others, calling them names. Things are even worse in my 3rd grader's class. A handful of badly behaved boys are disrupting class, calling names, N word... They seem to be popular too, which sucks for my son. As a result, the teacher's attention is going to the trouble-makers and the nice kids just go unnoticed. Did the parents just give up? Are the schools not enforcing discipline?

what is your greatschools rating, FARMS and demographics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's been that way for yeas. Avoiding behavioral problems is why so many parents try so had to get AAP

Yep! That's why AAP is popular. The biggest benefit of AAP is that you'll be around other kids who really enjoy school and want to get good grades. They don't want to be kicked out of AAP.

There's no longer any way to get kicked out of school, so kids in regular don't care anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it the pandemic, or have kids always been so badly behaved? My kids are in lower ES, in a decent school (nothing fancy but ok). I like the school, teachers and staff. But the stuff my kids are telling me is shocking to me. My 1st grader is hearing insults from her peers everyday (not specifically directed to her): F word, middle fingers, mean comments. Boys who used to be her friends now tease her in the school bus, kids ganging up on others, calling them names. Things are even worse in my 3rd grader's class. A handful of badly behaved boys are disrupting class, calling names, N word... They seem to be popular too, which sucks for my son. As a result, the teacher's attention is going to the trouble-makers and the nice kids just go unnoticed. Did the parents just give up? Are the schools not enforcing discipline?

what is your greatschools rating, FARMS and demographics?

PP here, our base has a very high GS score and negligible farms numbers

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it the pandemic, or have kids always been so badly behaved? My kids are in lower ES, in a decent school (nothing fancy but ok). I like the school, teachers and staff. But the stuff my kids are telling me is shocking to me. My 1st grader is hearing insults from her peers everyday (not specifically directed to her): F word, middle fingers, mean comments. Boys who used to be her friends now tease her in the school bus, kids ganging up on others, calling them names. Things are even worse in my 3rd grader's class. A handful of badly behaved boys are disrupting class, calling names, N word... They seem to be popular too, which sucks for my son. As a result, the teacher's attention is going to the trouble-makers and the nice kids just go unnoticed. Did the parents just give up? Are the schools not enforcing discipline?

what is your greatschools rating, FARMS and demographics?

6/10 rating. Small school. Roughly 1/3 white, 1/3 asian, 1/3 latino. What does FARM stand for?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's been that way for yeas. Avoiding behavioral problems is why so many parents try so had to get AAP

I really get it now... Who wants their kids to go to a school where the critical mass and pulling everyone down? They are not gifted but have very good grades and most importantly have respect for others and a sense of discipline. But it doesn't seem to be serving them that well after all. Why can't schools bring back discipline? Instead of this brain drain towards AAP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's been that way for yeas. Avoiding behavioral problems is why so many parents try so had to get AAP

I really get it now... Who wants their kids to go to a school where the critical mass and pulling everyone down? They are not gifted but have very good grades and most importantly have respect for others and a sense of discipline. But it doesn't seem to be serving them that well after all. Why can't schools bring back discipline? Instead of this brain drain towards AAP.

equity

[Anonymous]

The pandemic has made it so much worse and parents aren’t doing the work at home. AAP has plenty of behavioral issues even prepandemic - my 3rd grader had a kid who would routinely hit the teacher, in 4th grade there were a few boys who constantly misbehaved and the teacher had no time for anyone else.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it the pandemic, or have kids always been so badly behaved? My kids are in lower ES, in a decent school (nothing fancy but ok). I like the school, teachers and staff. But the stuff my kids are telling me is shocking to me. My 1st grader is hearing insults from her peers everyday (not specifically directed to her): F word, middle fingers, mean comments. Boys who used to be her friends now tease her in the school bus, kids ganging up on others, calling them names. Things are even worse in my 3rd grader's class. A handful of badly behaved boys are disrupting class, calling names, N word... They seem to be popular too, which sucks for my son. As a result, the teacher's attention is going to the trouble-makers and the nice kids just go unnoticed. Did the parents just give up? Are the schools not enforcing discipline?

what is your greatschools rating, FARMS and demographics?

6/10 rating. Small school. Roughly 1/3 white, 1/3 asian, 1/3 latino. What does FARM stand for?

Free And Reduced Meals

6 is not a good rating, look for 8 or higher, we left a 6 when the 2nd graders started wearing miniskirts and crop tops and asking our child about dating / kissing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it the pandemic, or have kids always been so badly behaved? My kids are in lower ES, in a decent school (nothing fancy but ok). I like the school, teachers and staff. But the stuff my kids are telling me is shocking to me. My 1st grader is hearing insults from her peers everyday (not specifically directed to her): F word, middle fingers, mean comments. Boys who used to be her friends now tease her in the school bus, kids ganging up on others, calling them names. Things are even worse in my 3rd grader's class. A handful of badly behaved boys are disrupting class, calling names, N word... They seem to be popular too, which sucks for my son. As a result, the teacher's attention is going to the trouble-makers and the nice kids just go unnoticed. Did the parents just give up? Are the schools not enforcing discipline?

what is your greatschools rating, FARMS and demographics?

6/10 rating. Small school. Roughly 1/3 white, 1/3 asian, 1/3 latino. What does FARM stand for?

Free And Reduced Meals

6 is not a good rating, look for 8 or higher, we left a 6 when the 2nd graders started wearing miniskirts and crop tops and asking our child about dating / kissing.

I hear you. When the kids are babies / toddlers, you don't really see the issues. They are becoming visible now. I know a 6 year old with make up and crop tops. Sweet kid but I just can't understand the parenting there. Also most parents are totally detached from school and not at all interested in play dates or anything like that. At the same time, I like our little house and have no urge to move to Mc Lean.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's been that way for yeas. Avoiding behavioral problems is why so many parents try so had to get AAP

um, there are kids with behavioral problems in AAP.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's been that way for yeas. Avoiding behavioral problems is why so many parents try so had to get AAP

um, there are kids with behavioral problems in AAP.

not in the same numbers, especially if your base is a high farms or high esl school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's been that way for yeas. Avoiding behavioral problems is why so many parents try so had to get AAP

Yep! That's why AAP is popular. The biggest benefit of AAP is that you'll be around other kids who really enjoy school and want to get good grades. They don't want to be kicked out of AAP.

There's no longer any way to get kicked out of school, so kids in regular don't care anymore.

My kid is an AAP classroom and she says the boys are constantly disruptive. It’s 1-2 main ones but then bring the other ones along for the misbehavior. It’s disruptive for the whole class. My oldest also in AAP didn’t have same issue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is it the pandemic, or have kids always been so badly behaved? My kids are in lower ES, in a decent school (nothing fancy but ok). I like the school, teachers and staff. But the stuff my kids are telling me is shocking to me. My 1st grader is hearing insults from her peers everyday (not specifically directed to her): F word, middle fingers, mean comments. Boys who used to be her friends now tease her in the school bus, kids ganging up on others, calling them names. Things are even worse in my 3rd grader's class. A handful of badly behaved boys are disrupting class, calling names, N word... They seem to be popular too, which sucks for my son. As a result, the teacher's attention is going to the trouble-makers and the nice kids just go unnoticed. Did the parents just give up? Are the schools not enforcing discipline?

what is your greatschools rating, FARMS and demographics?

6/10 rating. Small school. Roughly 1/3 white, 1/3 asian, 1/3 latino. What does FARM stand for?

Free And Reduced Meals

6 is not a good rating, look for 8 or higher, we left a 6 when the 2nd graders started wearing miniskirts and crop tops and asking our child about dating / kissing.

Our ES is not a 8/10 school and never heard of kids wearing mini skirts and kissing. I get that there are issues in poorer schools. But the whole only attend a GS of 8/10 above (which is code for avoid poor and/or brown people) to avoid any bad influences is a bit misguided. One of the kids in my kids’ AAP room is who is very disruptive is in AAP from a solid UMC family. I understand kids can be 2e (my kid is) but I wish there was a better mechanism to deal with disruptive kids in Gen Ed and AAP.