Laid off am I obligated to train during transition

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You're taking the lay-off personally, but it had nothing to do with you. Be professional and explain what you do. The company I work for has cut too deep at times and brought people back. If that happens you can go back on your terms - PT, contractor, etc. - while you look for a new job.

No, the company didn't plan well and it turns out employment, especially when tied to healthcare, IS PERSONAL. You don't need to burn any bridges, but no one is expecting you to bust your a** to train your replacement. That's ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Personally, I would write an exit memo, listing projects with contacts for vendors/consultants, deadlines, etc. Something like this:

Project Name
Brief description
Deadline/frequency
Resource needed
Account rep at that resource
Link to folder on sharepoint

An example would look like this:

Economic Impact Report
We update every other year, and execute a public affairs campaign announcing new data.
Deadline: April 1
Vendor: Dogface Economics/Max McDogface/email/phone
Internal partners: Susie from Marketing (Collateral design and production), Josh from Comms (Media Relations for CEO)

Don’t spend too much time on it. Send to the people taking over your projects, and save somewhere on the shared drive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You're taking the lay-off personally, but it had nothing to do with you. Be professional and explain what you do. The company I work for has cut too deep at times and brought people back. If that happens you can go back on your terms - PT, contractor, etc. - while you look for a new job.

No, the company didn't plan well and it turns out employment, especially when tied to healthcare, IS PERSONAL. You don't need to burn any bridges, but no one is expecting you to bust your a** to train your replacement. That's ridiculous.

This. I would do some basic training if you have to be at work anyhow. If you don't, then no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't you? Spite isn't a great reason.

Because I am not obligated to give my knowledge out? And If they need my knowledge why not to keep me?

Did you sign anything? We have our employees sign documents. Your knowledge about our business and products is OUR knowledge.

Ummm no I did not sign anything. My knowledge is not anyone’s property, but my skill set.

If you haven't signed your severance yet (and most companies do not sent it until your last day / after your last day) then you need to be an adult and wrap up your duties at your job. Don't put the severance at jeopardy.

Based on the way you are responding to people in this thread who are just trying to help you, it's a wonder you were selected to be laid off! Grow up.

Really don’t care about severance of 2 weeks.

OP, I understand why you are bitter. I don't think you owe this company anything. If you don't care about severance. Just send them your resignation. I'd stick around and do the bare minimum as others have suggested. You can answer questions (like were to find files, etc.) without giving away your secrets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn't you? Spite isn't a great reason.

Because I am not obligated to give my knowledge out? And If they need my knowledge why not to keep me?

Did you sign anything? We have our employees sign documents. Your knowledge about our business and products is OUR knowledge.

Ummm no I did not sign anything. My knowledge is not anyone’s property, but my skill set.

If you haven't signed your severance yet (and most companies do not sent it until your last day / after your last day) then you need to be an adult and wrap up your duties at your job. Don't put the severance at jeopardy.

Based on the way you are responding to people in this thread who are just trying to help you, it's a wonder you were selected to be laid off! Grow up.

Really don’t care about severance of 2 weeks.

OP, I understand why you are bitter. I don't think you owe this company anything. If you don't care about severance. Just send them your resignation. I'd stick around and do the bare minimum as others have suggested. You can answer questions (like were to find files, etc.) without giving away your secrets.

If OP resigns, then technically the company is off the hook for unemployment.

[Anonymous]

Training can be as basic as what folks here have said - rundown of projects, deadlines, etc. Here is the log in. This is where to find files to reference. That’s all. Let them figure it out.

[Anonymous]

Assuming you can do so in the time they are paying you to work and while you still have your laptop, yes, I would train the replacement. You don't have to do an excellent job, but at least act like you are doing an excellent job and be polite.

I was once watching the Bachelor with my dad and when one of the dissed bachelorettes stormed off in a hissy fit, dad said, "that wasn't very strategic of her because she just confirmed that he was right not to choose her."

Basically, try to conduct yourself well. Don't burn bridges.

[Anonymous]

Is the request to train the new person coming from your boss? If so, then, yes, you need to do it as long as you are employed. If you don't want to do that, then you justified in quitting early. Don't fake being sick or intentionally do a bad job (as others have suggested.

If the request is only coming from the person who is taking on your responsibilities and not from your boss (as it appears in the original post), then, no, there is no obligation to provide the training. You are responsible to your supervisor, not to this random other person. If your boss does not care, then there is no reason why you should.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How long is your transition period? Can you call out sick?

Officially until end of this month, but they will be sending shipping labels by the end of this week to ship our laptops. So I pretty much have 3 days.

Three days?

Bare minimum, high order with generalized recommendations. Thank HR and Offer to consult 1099 if needed, and state your rate for doing so at double your normal rate (to accommodate for loss of benefits etc)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're still being paid, then yes.

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I’m sorry you were laid off, it’s very hard.

This. You are still being paid. Conduct yourself professionally.

One of the saddest things I encountered in my work life was about 10 Indian guys being trained for 4 months
at a facility in Cleveland. Everyone in Cleveland was going to be laid off and all of the production equipment
was being shipped to India. The Americans had to train the Indians for 4 months and the Americans were losing their jobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did they give you any details about what you're supposed to teach her? There's a difference between teaching someone the basics of the job and teaching them your personal strategies.

This. The person is asking you for the basics, not your personal strategy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did they give you any details about what you're supposed to teach her? There's a difference between teaching someone the basics of the job and teaching them your personal strategies.

This. The person is asking you for the basics, not your personal strategy.

Agree. The new person doesn't even realize you have a personal strategy. Do the "transition" but don't go into your own "things you've learned over the years."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is the request to train the new person coming from your boss? If so, then, yes, you need to do it as long as you are employed. If you don't want to do that, then you justified in quitting early. Don't fake being sick or intentionally do a bad job (as others have suggested.

If the request is only coming from the person who is taking on your responsibilities and not from your boss (as it appears in the original post), then, no, there is no obligation to provide the training. You are responsible to your supervisor, not to this random other person. If your boss does not care, then there is no reason why you should.

No, my boss has been laid off as well.
This is someone in different department asking.

[Anonymous]

Offer an hour or two.

Hi Sally,

We have to turn in our computers and my last day is Friday. I can allocate time on Thursday from 2-4 and Friday from 11-12 to answer any questions you have.

[Anonymous]

No, my boss has been laid off as well.
This is someone in different department asking.

Unless you work for said department, you have zero responsibility here. Not sure why anyone would disagree.