How do EOTP middle schoolers get to Deal/Hardy/other WOTP schools?

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Anonymous wrote:while a 20-25 minute drive might not look bad, it turns into 40-50 minutes round trip for a caregiver/family who doesnt work or otherwise have reason to travel in that direction. that adds up quickly.

THIS.

unfortunately, i can also confirm this :-/

A 40 minutes round-trip for drop off turns into 75 minutes round trip at pick up because afternoon traffic is so much worse.

I do this and it’s fine. Has NEVER been 75 minutes. Car time offers great bonding and conversation opportunities. It’s worth it to us. My kid loves their school and we are able to stay in the great house that works for us EOTP. It may not work for everyone, but it is entirely doable and far preferable to moving for us.

Oh round-trip at 4pm doesn't EVER take you 75 minutes? Either you missed the "round-trip" or "4pm" qualifiers, or you're thinking "Hearst to Mount Pleasant" when we're thinking "Key to Shaw".

Nope. We are doing NE to Hardy feeder. Has never taken 75 minutes (round trip). It usually takes 40, can take up to 60 but that is on a REALLY bad day. Have only been a couple of those.

Capitol Hill?

There is just no way you can get from CH to Hardy round trip in 40 minutes at 4pm rush hour. I’m north by H St and during the middle of the day with no traffic, it takes me 25-30 minutes to get to just Wisconsin Ave by M St. Even if you hop on 395, it’s still minimum 25 minutes. Good luck with doing that at 4pm because you can double that time.

PP above needs to tell us exactly what neighborhood to Hardy or whatever school to be believable.

School gets out at 3:15. Why do you keep saying 4pm??

Probably because the thread title says MS, and MS gets out later + ECs.

Hardy gets out at 3:30. OP talked about HA. We commute from Brookland. It is not an issue for us. Has never been 75 minutes. Never. May not work for everyone, but works for a lot of us and it’s temporary. We have been in our house 15 years. Moving would be far more disruptive than commuting for a few years.

What do you mean, it's temporary? W3 MS feeder for 4-7 years, then 3 years of MS, then 4 years of HS don't feel temporary, and the public transit just isn't there for the kids to do it on their own, except Wilson.

DC has a vision of drastically reducing the number of commutes by car - this is a big one. OOB students need school buses or a lot more attention paid to their commute to school, so that parents can get off the roads.

You just described temporary.

If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. OP asked how we do it. For us, it’s fine. The alternative is far worse.

11 to 14 years, temporary. Got it. I understand your travel time claims now.

That IS temporary. We will be in our house for at least 30 years. Commuting for a portion of that time is a way better choice than either moving or paying for private. If you don’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you, but you probably have bigger problems.

That 11 to 14 years is your children’s whole childhood. How can having them spend so much of their free time in a car be better than moving?!

There will be a commute to school regardless of where we live. I would never move to suburbs. Work commute would be way worse (and for 25 years, not 9). Also we would have to drive EVERYWHERE else. This way we have a reasonable east-west route to school, our kid is happy, our house is paid for. We live on a single income and will retire early.

PP you've been arguing with over the "75 minutes round trip afternoon commute". I do it too, but I don't have any alternative, I'm not doing this to retire early. I believe the city is doing a great thing for its economic and racial diversity to allow all students to attend schools out-of-bounds. However, 'kids ride free' cards are not enough, when there's barely anything to ride. By not offering school buses to OOB students, and continuing the trend of reducing WMATA bus service, under the guise of staffing issues, the city may be harming those students and their families and its own goals of replacing car-based commuting with public transit and other commuting options.

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Anonymous wrote:while a 20-25 minute drive might not look bad, it turns into 40-50 minutes round trip for a caregiver/family who doesnt work or otherwise have reason to travel in that direction. that adds up quickly.

THIS.

unfortunately, i can also confirm this :-/

A 40 minutes round-trip for drop off turns into 75 minutes round trip at pick up because afternoon traffic is so much worse.

I do this and it’s fine. Has NEVER been 75 minutes. Car time offers great bonding and conversation opportunities. It’s worth it to us. My kid loves their school and we are able to stay in the great house that works for us EOTP. It may not work for everyone, but it is entirely doable and far preferable to moving for us.

Oh round-trip at 4pm doesn't EVER take you 75 minutes? Either you missed the "round-trip" or "4pm" qualifiers, or you're thinking "Hearst to Mount Pleasant" when we're thinking "Key to Shaw".

Nope. We are doing NE to Hardy feeder. Has never taken 75 minutes (round trip). It usually takes 40, can take up to 60 but that is on a REALLY bad day. Have only been a couple of those.

Capitol Hill?

There is just no way you can get from CH to Hardy round trip in 40 minutes at 4pm rush hour. I’m north by H St and during the middle of the day with no traffic, it takes me 25-30 minutes to get to just Wisconsin Ave by M St. Even if you hop on 395, it’s still minimum 25 minutes. Good luck with doing that at 4pm because you can double that time.

PP above needs to tell us exactly what neighborhood to Hardy or whatever school to be believable.

School gets out at 3:15. Why do you keep saying 4pm??

Probably because the thread title says MS, and MS gets out later + ECs.

Hardy gets out at 3:30. OP talked about HA. We commute from Brookland. It is not an issue for us. Has never been 75 minutes. Never. May not work for everyone, but works for a lot of us and it’s temporary. We have been in our house 15 years. Moving would be far more disruptive than commuting for a few years.

What do you mean, it's temporary? W3 MS feeder for 4-7 years, then 3 years of MS, then 4 years of HS don't feel temporary, and the public transit just isn't there for the kids to do it on their own, except Wilson.

DC has a vision of drastically reducing the number of commutes by car - this is a big one. OOB students need school buses or a lot more attention paid to their commute to school, so that parents can get off the roads.

You just described temporary.

If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. OP asked how we do it. For us, it’s fine. The alternative is far worse.

11 to 14 years, temporary. Got it. I understand your travel time claims now.

That IS temporary. We will be in our house for at least 30 years. Commuting for a portion of that time is a way better choice than either moving or paying for private. If you don’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you, but you probably have bigger problems.

That 11 to 14 years is your children’s whole childhood. How can having them spend so much of their free time in a car be better than moving?!

There will be a commute to school regardless of where we live. I would never move to suburbs. Work commute would be way worse (and for 25 years, not 9). Also we would have to drive EVERYWHERE else. This way we have a reasonable east-west route to school, our kid is happy, our house is paid for. We live on a single income and will retire early.

So you have a SAHP. Got it. Most people don't want that.

Also FYI, other places have these things called School Buses.

Who am I to say that this isn't the right choice for you. But the point here is - it is not going to work for most people.

Right so you don’t actually care if the kid has a commute, you just don’t want to have to spend time with them.
We have far different priorities.

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Anonymous wrote:while a 20-25 minute drive might not look bad, it turns into 40-50 minutes round trip for a caregiver/family who doesnt work or otherwise have reason to travel in that direction. that adds up quickly.

THIS.

unfortunately, i can also confirm this :-/

A 40 minutes round-trip for drop off turns into 75 minutes round trip at pick up because afternoon traffic is so much worse.

I do this and it’s fine. Has NEVER been 75 minutes. Car time offers great bonding and conversation opportunities. It’s worth it to us. My kid loves their school and we are able to stay in the great house that works for us EOTP. It may not work for everyone, but it is entirely doable and far preferable to moving for us.

Oh round-trip at 4pm doesn't EVER take you 75 minutes? Either you missed the "round-trip" or "4pm" qualifiers, or you're thinking "Hearst to Mount Pleasant" when we're thinking "Key to Shaw".

Nope. We are doing NE to Hardy feeder. Has never taken 75 minutes (round trip). It usually takes 40, can take up to 60 but that is on a REALLY bad day. Have only been a couple of those.

Capitol Hill?

There is just no way you can get from CH to Hardy round trip in 40 minutes at 4pm rush hour. I’m north by H St and during the middle of the day with no traffic, it takes me 25-30 minutes to get to just Wisconsin Ave by M St. Even if you hop on 395, it’s still minimum 25 minutes. Good luck with doing that at 4pm because you can double that time.

PP above needs to tell us exactly what neighborhood to Hardy or whatever school to be believable.

School gets out at 3:15. Why do you keep saying 4pm??

Probably because the thread title says MS, and MS gets out later + ECs.

Hardy gets out at 3:30. OP talked about HA. We commute from Brookland. It is not an issue for us. Has never been 75 minutes. Never. May not work for everyone, but works for a lot of us and it’s temporary. We have been in our house 15 years. Moving would be far more disruptive than commuting for a few years.

What do you mean, it's temporary? W3 MS feeder for 4-7 years, then 3 years of MS, then 4 years of HS don't feel temporary, and the public transit just isn't there for the kids to do it on their own, except Wilson.

DC has a vision of drastically reducing the number of commutes by car - this is a big one. OOB students need school buses or a lot more attention paid to their commute to school, so that parents can get off the roads.

You just described temporary.

If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. OP asked how we do it. For us, it’s fine. The alternative is far worse.

11 to 14 years, temporary. Got it. I understand your travel time claims now.

That IS temporary. We will be in our house for at least 30 years. Commuting for a portion of that time is a way better choice than either moving or paying for private. If you don’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you, but you probably have bigger problems.

That 11 to 14 years is your children’s whole childhood. How can having them spend so much of their free time in a car be better than moving?!

There will be a commute to school regardless of where we live. I would never move to suburbs. Work commute would be way worse (and for 25 years, not 9). Also we would have to drive EVERYWHERE else. This way we have a reasonable east-west route to school, our kid is happy, our house is paid for. We live on a single income and will retire early.

So you have a SAHP. Got it. Most people don't want that.

Also FYI, other places have these things called School Buses.

Who am I to say that this isn't the right choice for you. But the point here is - it is not going to work for most people.

Right so you don’t actually care if the kid has a commute, you just don’t want to have to spend time with them.
We have far different priorities.

wtf? you're not really convincing anyone that your lifestyle is reasonable ...

but to answer your question -yes, on balance, I consider it better parenting for my kid to ride the bus for 20 minutes with his friends (which is our plan in MoCo relocation) than for me to have to quit my job to drive him to and from school for 2-3 hours/week. (I just checked on google maps - drive time in the morning is up to 35 minutes each way from our Hill house to Hardy.)

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Anonymous wrote:while a 20-25 minute drive might not look bad, it turns into 40-50 minutes round trip for a caregiver/family who doesnt work or otherwise have reason to travel in that direction. that adds up quickly.

THIS.

unfortunately, i can also confirm this :-/

A 40 minutes round-trip for drop off turns into 75 minutes round trip at pick up because afternoon traffic is so much worse.

I do this and it’s fine. Has NEVER been 75 minutes. Car time offers great bonding and conversation opportunities. It’s worth it to us. My kid loves their school and we are able to stay in the great house that works for us EOTP. It may not work for everyone, but it is entirely doable and far preferable to moving for us.

Oh round-trip at 4pm doesn't EVER take you 75 minutes? Either you missed the "round-trip" or "4pm" qualifiers, or you're thinking "Hearst to Mount Pleasant" when we're thinking "Key to Shaw".

Nope. We are doing NE to Hardy feeder. Has never taken 75 minutes (round trip). It usually takes 40, can take up to 60 but that is on a REALLY bad day. Have only been a couple of those.

Capitol Hill?

There is just no way you can get from CH to Hardy round trip in 40 minutes at 4pm rush hour. I’m north by H St and during the middle of the day with no traffic, it takes me 25-30 minutes to get to just Wisconsin Ave by M St. Even if you hop on 395, it’s still minimum 25 minutes. Good luck with doing that at 4pm because you can double that time.

PP above needs to tell us exactly what neighborhood to Hardy or whatever school to be believable.

School gets out at 3:15. Why do you keep saying 4pm??

Probably because the thread title says MS, and MS gets out later + ECs.

Hardy gets out at 3:30. OP talked about HA. We commute from Brookland. It is not an issue for us. Has never been 75 minutes. Never. May not work for everyone, but works for a lot of us and it’s temporary. We have been in our house 15 years. Moving would be far more disruptive than commuting for a few years.

What do you mean, it's temporary? W3 MS feeder for 4-7 years, then 3 years of MS, then 4 years of HS don't feel temporary, and the public transit just isn't there for the kids to do it on their own, except Wilson.

DC has a vision of drastically reducing the number of commutes by car - this is a big one. OOB students need school buses or a lot more attention paid to their commute to school, so that parents can get off the roads.

You just described temporary.

If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. OP asked how we do it. For us, it’s fine. The alternative is far worse.

11 to 14 years, temporary. Got it. I understand your travel time claims now.

That IS temporary. We will be in our house for at least 30 years. Commuting for a portion of that time is a way better choice than either moving or paying for private. If you don’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you, but you probably have bigger problems.

That 11 to 14 years is your children’s whole childhood. How can having them spend so much of their free time in a car be better than moving?!

There will be a commute to school regardless of where we live. I would never move to suburbs. Work commute would be way worse (and for 25 years, not 9). Also we would have to drive EVERYWHERE else. This way we have a reasonable east-west route to school, our kid is happy, our house is paid for. We live on a single income and will retire early.

So you have a SAHP. Got it. Most people don't want that.

Also FYI, other places have these things called School Buses.

Who am I to say that this isn't the right choice for you. But the point here is - it is not going to work for most people.

Right so you don’t actually care if the kid has a commute, you just don’t want to have to spend time with them.
We have far different priorities.

wtf? you're not really convincing anyone that your lifestyle is reasonable ...

but to answer your question -yes, on balance, I consider it better parenting for my kid to ride the bus for 20 minutes with his friends (which is our plan in MoCo relocation) than for me to have to quit my job to drive him to and from school for 2-3 hours/week. (I just checked on google maps - drive time in the morning is up to 35 minutes each way from our Hill house to Hardy.)

You aren’t convincing anyone either. Have a great life in the suburbs. Hope it works out for you. I am very glad not to make such a choice. To each their own, but maybe you should switch boards? Because this one is for people in DC public schools. Bye!!

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Anonymous wrote:while a 20-25 minute drive might not look bad, it turns into 40-50 minutes round trip for a caregiver/family who doesnt work or otherwise have reason to travel in that direction. that adds up quickly.

THIS.

unfortunately, i can also confirm this :-/

A 40 minutes round-trip for drop off turns into 75 minutes round trip at pick up because afternoon traffic is so much worse.

I do this and it’s fine. Has NEVER been 75 minutes. Car time offers great bonding and conversation opportunities. It’s worth it to us. My kid loves their school and we are able to stay in the great house that works for us EOTP. It may not work for everyone, but it is entirely doable and far preferable to moving for us.

Oh round-trip at 4pm doesn't EVER take you 75 minutes? Either you missed the "round-trip" or "4pm" qualifiers, or you're thinking "Hearst to Mount Pleasant" when we're thinking "Key to Shaw".

Nope. We are doing NE to Hardy feeder. Has never taken 75 minutes (round trip). It usually takes 40, can take up to 60 but that is on a REALLY bad day. Have only been a couple of those.

Capitol Hill?

There is just no way you can get from CH to Hardy round trip in 40 minutes at 4pm rush hour. I’m north by H St and during the middle of the day with no traffic, it takes me 25-30 minutes to get to just Wisconsin Ave by M St. Even if you hop on 395, it’s still minimum 25 minutes. Good luck with doing that at 4pm because you can double that time.

PP above needs to tell us exactly what neighborhood to Hardy or whatever school to be believable.

School gets out at 3:15. Why do you keep saying 4pm??

Probably because the thread title says MS, and MS gets out later + ECs.

Hardy gets out at 3:30. OP talked about HA. We commute from Brookland. It is not an issue for us. Has never been 75 minutes. Never. May not work for everyone, but works for a lot of us and it’s temporary. We have been in our house 15 years. Moving would be far more disruptive than commuting for a few years.

What do you mean, it's temporary? W3 MS feeder for 4-7 years, then 3 years of MS, then 4 years of HS don't feel temporary, and the public transit just isn't there for the kids to do it on their own, except Wilson.

DC has a vision of drastically reducing the number of commutes by car - this is a big one. OOB students need school buses or a lot more attention paid to their commute to school, so that parents can get off the roads.

You just described temporary.

If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. OP asked how we do it. For us, it’s fine. The alternative is far worse.

11 to 14 years, temporary. Got it. I understand your travel time claims now.

That IS temporary. We will be in our house for at least 30 years. Commuting for a portion of that time is a way better choice than either moving or paying for private. If you don’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you, but you probably have bigger problems.

That 11 to 14 years is your children’s whole childhood. How can having them spend so much of their free time in a car be better than moving?!

There will be a commute to school regardless of where we live. I would never move to suburbs. Work commute would be way worse (and for 25 years, not 9). Also we would have to drive EVERYWHERE else. This way we have a reasonable east-west route to school, our kid is happy, our house is paid for. We live on a single income and will retire early.

So you have a SAHP. Got it. Most people don't want that.

Also FYI, other places have these things called School Buses.

Who am I to say that this isn't the right choice for you. But the point here is - it is not going to work for most people.

Right so you don’t actually care if the kid has a commute, you just don’t want to have to spend time with them.
We have far different priorities.

wtf? you're not really convincing anyone that your lifestyle is reasonable ...

but to answer your question -yes, on balance, I consider it better parenting for my kid to ride the bus for 20 minutes with his friends (which is our plan in MoCo relocation) than for me to have to quit my job to drive him to and from school for 2-3 hours/week. (I just checked on google maps - drive time in the morning is up to 35 minutes each way from our Hill house to Hardy.)

You aren’t convincing anyone either. Have a great life in the suburbs. Hope it works out for you. I am very glad not to make such a choice. To each their own, but maybe you should switch boards? Because this one is for people in DC public schools. Bye!!

I mean - I’m chosing to move to MoCo specifically so I can spend less time in the car … It’s pretty bizarre that you’re pinning your identity on being “urban” and DC so much that you’re chosing to make yourself and your child spend extra time driving specifically to avoid your DC school. But whatever.

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Anonymous wrote:while a 20-25 minute drive might not look bad, it turns into 40-50 minutes round trip for a caregiver/family who doesnt work or otherwise have reason to travel in that direction. that adds up quickly.

THIS.

unfortunately, i can also confirm this :-/

A 40 minutes round-trip for drop off turns into 75 minutes round trip at pick up because afternoon traffic is so much worse.

I do this and it’s fine. Has NEVER been 75 minutes. Car time offers great bonding and conversation opportunities. It’s worth it to us. My kid loves their school and we are able to stay in the great house that works for us EOTP. It may not work for everyone, but it is entirely doable and far preferable to moving for us.

Oh round-trip at 4pm doesn't EVER take you 75 minutes? Either you missed the "round-trip" or "4pm" qualifiers, or you're thinking "Hearst to Mount Pleasant" when we're thinking "Key to Shaw".

Nope. We are doing NE to Hardy feeder. Has never taken 75 minutes (round trip). It usually takes 40, can take up to 60 but that is on a REALLY bad day. Have only been a couple of those.

Capitol Hill?

There is just no way you can get from CH to Hardy round trip in 40 minutes at 4pm rush hour. I’m north by H St and during the middle of the day with no traffic, it takes me 25-30 minutes to get to just Wisconsin Ave by M St. Even if you hop on 395, it’s still minimum 25 minutes. Good luck with doing that at 4pm because you can double that time.

PP above needs to tell us exactly what neighborhood to Hardy or whatever school to be believable.

School gets out at 3:15. Why do you keep saying 4pm??

Probably because the thread title says MS, and MS gets out later + ECs.

Hardy gets out at 3:30. OP talked about HA. We commute from Brookland. It is not an issue for us. Has never been 75 minutes. Never. May not work for everyone, but works for a lot of us and it’s temporary. We have been in our house 15 years. Moving would be far more disruptive than commuting for a few years.

What do you mean, it's temporary? W3 MS feeder for 4-7 years, then 3 years of MS, then 4 years of HS don't feel temporary, and the public transit just isn't there for the kids to do it on their own, except Wilson.

DC has a vision of drastically reducing the number of commutes by car - this is a big one. OOB students need school buses or a lot more attention paid to their commute to school, so that parents can get off the roads.

You just described temporary.

If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. OP asked how we do it. For us, it’s fine. The alternative is far worse.

11 to 14 years, temporary. Got it. I understand your travel time claims now.

That IS temporary. We will be in our house for at least 30 years. Commuting for a portion of that time is a way better choice than either moving or paying for private. If you don’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you, but you probably have bigger problems.

That 11 to 14 years is your children’s whole childhood. How can having them spend so much of their free time in a car be better than moving?!

There will be a commute to school regardless of where we live. I would never move to suburbs. Work commute would be way worse (and for 25 years, not 9). Also we would have to drive EVERYWHERE else. This way we have a reasonable east-west route to school, our kid is happy, our house is paid for. We live on a single income and will retire early.

So you have a SAHP. Got it. Most people don't want that.

Also FYI, other places have these things called School Buses.

Who am I to say that this isn't the right choice for you. But the point here is - it is not going to work for most people.

Right so you don’t actually care if the kid has a commute, you just don’t want to have to spend time with them.
We have far different priorities.

wtf? you're not really convincing anyone that your lifestyle is reasonable ...

but to answer your question -yes, on balance, I consider it better parenting for my kid to ride the bus for 20 minutes with his friends (which is our plan in MoCo relocation) than for me to have to quit my job to drive him to and from school for 2-3 hours/week. (I just checked on google maps - drive time in the morning is up to 35 minutes each way from our Hill house to Hardy.)

You aren’t convincing anyone either. Have a great life in the suburbs. Hope it works out for you. I am very glad not to make such a choice. To each their own, but maybe you should switch boards? Because this one is for people in DC public schools. Bye!!

I mean - I’m chosing to move to MoCo specifically so I can spend less time in the car … It’s pretty bizarre that you’re pinning your identity on being “urban” and DC so much that you’re chosing to make yourself and your child spend extra time driving specifically to avoid your DC school. But whatever.

Trust: you will spend way more of your life in a car than I will. Also you can’t spell. There have been so many typos in your post. You must be insufferable IRL. Again, goodbye. You will not be missed.

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Anonymous wrote:while a 20-25 minute drive might not look bad, it turns into 40-50 minutes round trip for a caregiver/family who doesnt work or otherwise have reason to travel in that direction. that adds up quickly.

THIS.

unfortunately, i can also confirm this :-/

A 40 minutes round-trip for drop off turns into 75 minutes round trip at pick up because afternoon traffic is so much worse.

I do this and it’s fine. Has NEVER been 75 minutes. Car time offers great bonding and conversation opportunities. It’s worth it to us. My kid loves their school and we are able to stay in the great house that works for us EOTP. It may not work for everyone, but it is entirely doable and far preferable to moving for us.

Oh round-trip at 4pm doesn't EVER take you 75 minutes? Either you missed the "round-trip" or "4pm" qualifiers, or you're thinking "Hearst to Mount Pleasant" when we're thinking "Key to Shaw".

Nope. We are doing NE to Hardy feeder. Has never taken 75 minutes (round trip). It usually takes 40, can take up to 60 but that is on a REALLY bad day. Have only been a couple of those.

Capitol Hill?

There is just no way you can get from CH to Hardy round trip in 40 minutes at 4pm rush hour. I’m north by H St and during the middle of the day with no traffic, it takes me 25-30 minutes to get to just Wisconsin Ave by M St. Even if you hop on 395, it’s still minimum 25 minutes. Good luck with doing that at 4pm because you can double that time.

PP above needs to tell us exactly what neighborhood to Hardy or whatever school to be believable.

School gets out at 3:15. Why do you keep saying 4pm??

Probably because the thread title says MS, and MS gets out later + ECs.

Hardy gets out at 3:30. OP talked about HA. We commute from Brookland. It is not an issue for us. Has never been 75 minutes. Never. May not work for everyone, but works for a lot of us and it’s temporary. We have been in our house 15 years. Moving would be far more disruptive than commuting for a few years.

What do you mean, it's temporary? W3 MS feeder for 4-7 years, then 3 years of MS, then 4 years of HS don't feel temporary, and the public transit just isn't there for the kids to do it on their own, except Wilson.

DC has a vision of drastically reducing the number of commutes by car - this is a big one. OOB students need school buses or a lot more attention paid to their commute to school, so that parents can get off the roads.

You just described temporary.

If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. OP asked how we do it. For us, it’s fine. The alternative is far worse.

11 to 14 years, temporary. Got it. I understand your travel time claims now.

That IS temporary. We will be in our house for at least 30 years. Commuting for a portion of that time is a way better choice than either moving or paying for private. If you don’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you, but you probably have bigger problems.

That 11 to 14 years is your children’s whole childhood. How can having them spend so much of their free time in a car be better than moving?!

There will be a commute to school regardless of where we live. I would never move to suburbs. Work commute would be way worse (and for 25 years, not 9). Also we would have to drive EVERYWHERE else. This way we have a reasonable east-west route to school, our kid is happy, our house is paid for. We live on a single income and will retire early.

So you have a SAHP. Got it. Most people don't want that.

Also FYI, other places have these things called School Buses.

Who am I to say that this isn't the right choice for you. But the point here is - it is not going to work for most people.

Right so you don’t actually care if the kid has a commute, you just don’t want to have to spend time with them.
We have far different priorities.

wtf? you're not really convincing anyone that your lifestyle is reasonable ...

but to answer your question -yes, on balance, I consider it better parenting for my kid to ride the bus for 20 minutes with his friends (which is our plan in MoCo relocation) than for me to have to quit my job to drive him to and from school for 2-3 hours/week. (I just checked on google maps - drive time in the morning is up to 35 minutes each way from our Hill house to Hardy.)

You aren’t convincing anyone either. Have a great life in the suburbs. Hope it works out for you. I am very glad not to make such a choice. To each their own, but maybe you should switch boards? Because this one is for people in DC public schools. Bye!!

I mean - I’m chosing to move to MoCo specifically so I can spend less time in the car … It’s pretty bizarre that you’re pinning your identity on being “urban” and DC so much that you’re chosing to make yourself and your child spend extra time driving specifically to avoid your DC school. But whatever.

Trust: you will spend way more of your life in a car than I will. Also you can’t spell. There have been so many typos in your post. You must be insufferable IRL. Again, goodbye. You will not be missed.

Ok lady.

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THIS.

unfortunately, i can also confirm this :-/

A 40 minutes round-trip for drop off turns into 75 minutes round trip at pick up because afternoon traffic is so much worse.

I do this and it’s fine. Has NEVER been 75 minutes. Car time offers great bonding and conversation opportunities. It’s worth it to us. My kid loves their school and we are able to stay in the great house that works for us EOTP. It may not work for everyone, but it is entirely doable and far preferable to moving for us.

Oh round-trip at 4pm doesn't EVER take you 75 minutes? Either you missed the "round-trip" or "4pm" qualifiers, or you're thinking "Hearst to Mount Pleasant" when we're thinking "Key to Shaw".

Nope. We are doing NE to Hardy feeder. Has never taken 75 minutes (round trip). It usually takes 40, can take up to 60 but that is on a REALLY bad day. Have only been a couple of those.

Capitol Hill?

There is just no way you can get from CH to Hardy round trip in 40 minutes at 4pm rush hour. I’m north by H St and during the middle of the day with no traffic, it takes me 25-30 minutes to get to just Wisconsin Ave by M St. Even if you hop on 395, it’s still minimum 25 minutes. Good luck with doing that at 4pm because you can double that time.

PP above needs to tell us exactly what neighborhood to Hardy or whatever school to be believable.

School gets out at 3:15. Why do you keep saying 4pm??

Probably because the thread title says MS, and MS gets out later + ECs.

Hardy gets out at 3:30. OP talked about HA. We commute from Brookland. It is not an issue for us. Has never been 75 minutes. Never. May not work for everyone, but works for a lot of us and it’s temporary. We have been in our house 15 years. Moving would be far more disruptive than commuting for a few years.

What do you mean, it's temporary? W3 MS feeder for 4-7 years, then 3 years of MS, then 4 years of HS don't feel temporary, and the public transit just isn't there for the kids to do it on their own, except Wilson.

DC has a vision of drastically reducing the number of commutes by car - this is a big one. OOB students need school buses or a lot more attention paid to their commute to school, so that parents can get off the roads.

You just described temporary.

If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. OP asked how we do it. For us, it’s fine. The alternative is far worse.

11 to 14 years, temporary. Got it. I understand your travel time claims now.

That IS temporary. We will be in our house for at least 30 years. Commuting for a portion of that time is a way better choice than either moving or paying for private. If you don’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you, but you probably have bigger problems.

That 11 to 14 years is your children’s whole childhood. How can having them spend so much of their free time in a car be better than moving?!

There will be a commute to school regardless of where we live. I would never move to suburbs. Work commute would be way worse (and for 25 years, not 9). Also we would have to drive EVERYWHERE else. This way we have a reasonable east-west route to school, our kid is happy, our house is paid for. We live on a single income and will retire early.

So you have a SAHP. Got it. Most people don't want that.

Also FYI, other places have these things called School Buses.

Who am I to say that this isn't the right choice for you. But the point here is - it is not going to work for most people.

Right so you don’t actually care if the kid has a commute, you just don’t want to have to spend time with them.
We have far different priorities.

wtf? you're not really convincing anyone that your lifestyle is reasonable ...

but to answer your question -yes, on balance, I consider it better parenting for my kid to ride the bus for 20 minutes with his friends (which is our plan in MoCo relocation) than for me to have to quit my job to drive him to and from school for 2-3 hours/week. (I just checked on google maps - drive time in the morning is up to 35 minutes each way from our Hill house to Hardy.)

You aren’t convincing anyone either. Have a great life in the suburbs. Hope it works out for you. I am very glad not to make such a choice. To each their own, but maybe you should switch boards? Because this one is for people in DC public schools. Bye!!

I mean - I’m chosing to move to MoCo specifically so I can spend less time in the car … It’s pretty bizarre that you’re pinning your identity on being “urban” and DC so much that you’re chosing to make yourself and your child spend extra time driving specifically to avoid your DC school. But whatever.

Trust: you will spend way more of your life in a car than I will. Also you can’t spell. There have been so many typos in your post. You must be insufferable IRL. Again, goodbye. You will not be missed.

Ok lady.

Okay! Bye! Sorry about your life!

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Anonymous wrote:while a 20-25 minute drive might not look bad, it turns into 40-50 minutes round trip for a caregiver/family who doesnt work or otherwise have reason to travel in that direction. that adds up quickly.

THIS.

unfortunately, i can also confirm this :-/

A 40 minutes round-trip for drop off turns into 75 minutes round trip at pick up because afternoon traffic is so much worse.

I do this and it’s fine. Has NEVER been 75 minutes. Car time offers great bonding and conversation opportunities. It’s worth it to us. My kid loves their school and we are able to stay in the great house that works for us EOTP. It may not work for everyone, but it is entirely doable and far preferable to moving for us.

Oh round-trip at 4pm doesn't EVER take you 75 minutes? Either you missed the "round-trip" or "4pm" qualifiers, or you're thinking "Hearst to Mount Pleasant" when we're thinking "Key to Shaw".

Nope. We are doing NE to Hardy feeder. Has never taken 75 minutes (round trip). It usually takes 40, can take up to 60 but that is on a REALLY bad day. Have only been a couple of those.

Capitol Hill?

There is just no way you can get from CH to Hardy round trip in 40 minutes at 4pm rush hour. I’m north by H St and during the middle of the day with no traffic, it takes me 25-30 minutes to get to just Wisconsin Ave by M St. Even if you hop on 395, it’s still minimum 25 minutes. Good luck with doing that at 4pm because you can double that time.

PP above needs to tell us exactly what neighborhood to Hardy or whatever school to be believable.

School gets out at 3:15. Why do you keep saying 4pm??

Probably because the thread title says MS, and MS gets out later + ECs.

Hardy gets out at 3:30. OP talked about HA. We commute from Brookland. It is not an issue for us. Has never been 75 minutes. Never. May not work for everyone, but works for a lot of us and it’s temporary. We have been in our house 15 years. Moving would be far more disruptive than commuting for a few years.

What do you mean, it's temporary? W3 MS feeder for 4-7 years, then 3 years of MS, then 4 years of HS don't feel temporary, and the public transit just isn't there for the kids to do it on their own, except Wilson.

DC has a vision of drastically reducing the number of commutes by car - this is a big one. OOB students need school buses or a lot more attention paid to their commute to school, so that parents can get off the roads.

You just described temporary.

If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. OP asked how we do it. For us, it’s fine. The alternative is far worse.

11 to 14 years, temporary. Got it. I understand your travel time claims now.

That IS temporary. We will be in our house for at least 30 years. Commuting for a portion of that time is a way better choice than either moving or paying for private. If you don’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you, but you probably have bigger problems.

That 11 to 14 years is your children’s whole childhood. How can having them spend so much of their free time in a car be better than moving?!

There will be a commute to school regardless of where we live. I would never move to suburbs. Work commute would be way worse (and for 25 years, not 9). Also we would have to drive EVERYWHERE else. This way we have a reasonable east-west route to school, our kid is happy, our house is paid for. We live on a single income and will retire early.

So you have a SAHP. Got it. Most people don't want that.

Also FYI, other places have these things called School Buses.

Who am I to say that this isn't the right choice for you. But the point here is - it is not going to work for most people.

Right so you don’t actually care if the kid has a commute, you just don’t want to have to spend time with them.
We have far different priorities.

wtf? you're not really convincing anyone that your lifestyle is reasonable ...

but to answer your question -yes, on balance, I consider it better parenting for my kid to ride the bus for 20 minutes with his friends (which is our plan in MoCo relocation) than for me to have to quit my job to drive him to and from school for 2-3 hours/week. (I just checked on google maps - drive time in the morning is up to 35 minutes each way from our Hill house to Hardy.)

You aren’t convincing anyone either. Have a great life in the suburbs. Hope it works out for you. I am very glad not to make such a choice. To each their own, but maybe you should switch boards? Because this one is for people in DC public schools. Bye!!

I mean - I’m chosing to move to MoCo specifically so I can spend less time in the car … It’s pretty bizarre that you’re pinning your identity on being “urban” and DC so much that you’re chosing to make yourself and your child spend extra time driving specifically to avoid your DC school. But whatever.

Trust: you will spend way more of your life in a car than I will. Also you can’t spell. There have been so many typos in your post. You must be insufferable IRL. Again, goodbye. You will not be missed.

Ok lady.

Okay! Bye! Sorry about your life!

thanks for confirming that the sane decision is moving.

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i increasingly think the most sane choice is just going to one of the obviously imperfect relatively local eotp middle schools

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yes, I think that’s true. not going to work for our particular situation but I think it’s likely the best one for more people.

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Anonymous wrote:while a 20-25 minute drive might not look bad, it turns into 40-50 minutes round trip for a caregiver/family who doesnt work or otherwise have reason to travel in that direction. that adds up quickly.

THIS.

unfortunately, i can also confirm this :-/

A 40 minutes round-trip for drop off turns into 75 minutes round trip at pick up because afternoon traffic is so much worse.

I do this and it’s fine. Has NEVER been 75 minutes. Car time offers great bonding and conversation opportunities. It’s worth it to us. My kid loves their school and we are able to stay in the great house that works for us EOTP. It may not work for everyone, but it is entirely doable and far preferable to moving for us.

Oh round-trip at 4pm doesn't EVER take you 75 minutes? Either you missed the "round-trip" or "4pm" qualifiers, or you're thinking "Hearst to Mount Pleasant" when we're thinking "Key to Shaw".

Nope. We are doing NE to Hardy feeder. Has never taken 75 minutes (round trip). It usually takes 40, can take up to 60 but that is on a REALLY bad day. Have only been a couple of those.

Capitol Hill?

There is just no way you can get from CH to Hardy round trip in 40 minutes at 4pm rush hour. I’m north by H St and during the middle of the day with no traffic, it takes me 25-30 minutes to get to just Wisconsin Ave by M St. Even if you hop on 395, it’s still minimum 25 minutes. Good luck with doing that at 4pm because you can double that time.

PP above needs to tell us exactly what neighborhood to Hardy or whatever school to be believable.

School gets out at 3:15. Why do you keep saying 4pm??

Probably because the thread title says MS, and MS gets out later + ECs.

Hardy gets out at 3:30. OP talked about HA. We commute from Brookland. It is not an issue for us. Has never been 75 minutes. Never. May not work for everyone, but works for a lot of us and it’s temporary. We have been in our house 15 years. Moving would be far more disruptive than commuting for a few years.

What do you mean, it's temporary? W3 MS feeder for 4-7 years, then 3 years of MS, then 4 years of HS don't feel temporary, and the public transit just isn't there for the kids to do it on their own, except Wilson.

DC has a vision of drastically reducing the number of commutes by car - this is a big one. OOB students need school buses or a lot more attention paid to their commute to school, so that parents can get off the roads.

You just described temporary.

If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. OP asked how we do it. For us, it’s fine. The alternative is far worse.

11 to 14 years, temporary. Got it. I understand your travel time claims now.

That IS temporary. We will be in our house for at least 30 years. Commuting for a portion of that time is a way better choice than either moving or paying for private. If you don’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you, but you probably have bigger problems.

That 11 to 14 years is your children’s whole childhood. How can having them spend so much of their free time in a car be better than moving?!

There will be a commute to school regardless of where we live. I would never move to suburbs. Work commute would be way worse (and for 25 years, not 9). Also we would have to drive EVERYWHERE else. This way we have a reasonable east-west route to school, our kid is happy, our house is paid for. We live on a single income and will retire early.

So you have a SAHP. Got it. Most people don't want that.

Also FYI, other places have these things called School Buses.

Who am I to say that this isn't the right choice for you. But the point here is - it is not going to work for most people.

Right so you don’t actually care if the kid has a commute, you just don’t want to have to spend time with them.
We have far different priorities.

wtf? you're not really convincing anyone that your lifestyle is reasonable ...

but to answer your question -yes, on balance, I consider it better parenting for my kid to ride the bus for 20 minutes with his friends (which is our plan in MoCo relocation) than for me to have to quit my job to drive him to and from school for 2-3 hours/week. (I just checked on google maps - drive time in the morning is up to 35 minutes each way from our Hill house to Hardy.)

You aren’t convincing anyone either. Have a great life in the suburbs. Hope it works out for you. I am very glad not to make such a choice. To each their own, but maybe you should switch boards? Because this one is for people in DC public schools. Bye!!

I mean - I’m chosing to move to MoCo specifically so I can spend less time in the car … It’s pretty bizarre that you’re pinning your identity on being “urban” and DC so much that you’re chosing to make yourself and your child spend extra time driving specifically to avoid your DC school. But whatever.

Trust: you will spend way more of your life in a car than I will. Also you can’t spell. There have been so many typos in your post. You must be insufferable IRL. Again, goodbye. You will not be missed.

Ok lady.

Okay! Bye! Sorry about your life!

thanks for confirming that the sane decision is moving.

You’re still here?

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Anonymous wrote:while a 20-25 minute drive might not look bad, it turns into 40-50 minutes round trip for a caregiver/family who doesnt work or otherwise have reason to travel in that direction. that adds up quickly.

THIS.

unfortunately, i can also confirm this :-/

A 40 minutes round-trip for drop off turns into 75 minutes round trip at pick up because afternoon traffic is so much worse.

I do this and it’s fine. Has NEVER been 75 minutes. Car time offers great bonding and conversation opportunities. It’s worth it to us. My kid loves their school and we are able to stay in the great house that works for us EOTP. It may not work for everyone, but it is entirely doable and far preferable to moving for us.

Oh round-trip at 4pm doesn't EVER take you 75 minutes? Either you missed the "round-trip" or "4pm" qualifiers, or you're thinking "Hearst to Mount Pleasant" when we're thinking "Key to Shaw".

Nope. We are doing NE to Hardy feeder. Has never taken 75 minutes (round trip). It usually takes 40, can take up to 60 but that is on a REALLY bad day. Have only been a couple of those.

Capitol Hill?

There is just no way you can get from CH to Hardy round trip in 40 minutes at 4pm rush hour. I’m north by H St and during the middle of the day with no traffic, it takes me 25-30 minutes to get to just Wisconsin Ave by M St. Even if you hop on 395, it’s still minimum 25 minutes. Good luck with doing that at 4pm because you can double that time.

PP above needs to tell us exactly what neighborhood to Hardy or whatever school to be believable.

School gets out at 3:15. Why do you keep saying 4pm??

Probably because the thread title says MS, and MS gets out later + ECs.

Hardy gets out at 3:30. OP talked about HA. We commute from Brookland. It is not an issue for us. Has never been 75 minutes. Never. May not work for everyone, but works for a lot of us and it’s temporary. We have been in our house 15 years. Moving would be far more disruptive than commuting for a few years.

What do you mean, it's temporary? W3 MS feeder for 4-7 years, then 3 years of MS, then 4 years of HS don't feel temporary, and the public transit just isn't there for the kids to do it on their own, except Wilson.

DC has a vision of drastically reducing the number of commutes by car - this is a big one. OOB students need school buses or a lot more attention paid to their commute to school, so that parents can get off the roads.

You just described temporary.

If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. OP asked how we do it. For us, it’s fine. The alternative is far worse.

11 to 14 years, temporary. Got it. I understand your travel time claims now.

That IS temporary. We will be in our house for at least 30 years. Commuting for a portion of that time is a way better choice than either moving or paying for private. If you don’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you, but you probably have bigger problems.

It never cease to amaze me the way DCUM people rationalize things.

+1 million. This is insane doing it for over a decade. Yes no. PP above is crazy and an outlier.

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Anonymous wrote:while a 20-25 minute drive might not look bad, it turns into 40-50 minutes round trip for a caregiver/family who doesnt work or otherwise have reason to travel in that direction. that adds up quickly.

THIS.

unfortunately, i can also confirm this :-/

A 40 minutes round-trip for drop off turns into 75 minutes round trip at pick up because afternoon traffic is so much worse.

I do this and it’s fine. Has NEVER been 75 minutes. Car time offers great bonding and conversation opportunities. It’s worth it to us. My kid loves their school and we are able to stay in the great house that works for us EOTP. It may not work for everyone, but it is entirely doable and far preferable to moving for us.

Oh round-trip at 4pm doesn't EVER take you 75 minutes? Either you missed the "round-trip" or "4pm" qualifiers, or you're thinking "Hearst to Mount Pleasant" when we're thinking "Key to Shaw".

Nope. We are doing NE to Hardy feeder. Has never taken 75 minutes (round trip). It usually takes 40, can take up to 60 but that is on a REALLY bad day. Have only been a couple of those.

Capitol Hill?

There is just no way you can get from CH to Hardy round trip in 40 minutes at 4pm rush hour. I’m north by H St and during the middle of the day with no traffic, it takes me 25-30 minutes to get to just Wisconsin Ave by M St. Even if you hop on 395, it’s still minimum 25 minutes. Good luck with doing that at 4pm because you can double that time.

PP above needs to tell us exactly what neighborhood to Hardy or whatever school to be believable.

School gets out at 3:15. Why do you keep saying 4pm??

Probably because the thread title says MS, and MS gets out later + ECs.

Hardy gets out at 3:30. OP talked about HA. We commute from Brookland. It is not an issue for us. Has never been 75 minutes. Never. May not work for everyone, but works for a lot of us and it’s temporary. We have been in our house 15 years. Moving would be far more disruptive than commuting for a few years.

What do you mean, it's temporary? W3 MS feeder for 4-7 years, then 3 years of MS, then 4 years of HS don't feel temporary, and the public transit just isn't there for the kids to do it on their own, except Wilson.

DC has a vision of drastically reducing the number of commutes by car - this is a big one. OOB students need school buses or a lot more attention paid to their commute to school, so that parents can get off the roads.

You just described temporary.

If you don’t want to do it, don’t do it. OP asked how we do it. For us, it’s fine. The alternative is far worse.

11 to 14 years, temporary. Got it. I understand your travel time claims now.

That IS temporary. We will be in our house for at least 30 years. Commuting for a portion of that time is a way better choice than either moving or paying for private. If you don’t see that, I don’t know what to tell you, but you probably have bigger problems.

It never cease to amaze me the way DCUM people rationalize things.

+1 million. This is insane doing it for over a decade. Yes no. PP above is crazy and an outlier.

well I suppose if you’re a SAHM and don’t mind driving a lot, it would be ok. But certainly not most people’s choice. And if you live near the red line then eventually you can have them take the metro to Deal/Wilson.

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Anonymous wrote:i increasingly think the most sane choice is just going to one of the obviously imperfect relatively local eotp middle schools

yes, I think that’s true. not going to work for our particular situation but I think it’s likely the best one for more people.

Dying. Good for thee but not for me.

This is peak DCUM.