Why do rich women pay lots of money to deform their faces to look like this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is just sad.

In her prime, Madonna was the epitome of true, natural beauty.
I remember during the mid-/late-eighties…..EVERYone & their Mother we’re trying to emulate Madonna’s beauty + style.
Now she just looks like an old granny.
Her looks have really gone south since she hit forty-five. 😓

Gwen Stefani was always such a beauty too.
She just recently started looking like this.
J Lo is a few months older than her and she looks so much better than her.

Reason being is that if J Lo does get surgery, she only gets mild tweaks.
Gwen looks like she got a totally different face.

J Lo ages the good old-fashioned way.
I.e., working out regularly, eating clean, staying out of the sun and using her own skincare product.

You're hilarious. J. Lo absolutely gets tons of Botox and fillers. I've seen her in person and she can't furrow her brows and her forehead is like glass. That said, it's not overdone like other examples but the "good old-fashioned way" must mean to you LIGHT Botox and fillers.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

Thank God someone is here to defend rich women. The right rich women anyway.

Happy to do it! You can ask me anything about the “right” way to age, my people have very strong opinions.

Please tell me how to age like an NE Yankee, I am curious

OK, I will.

You develop a non-nonsense approach to life -- you get up early, you spend a chunk of the day outside, even in foul weather -- probably with dogs -- you don't mind your skin being weathered b/c it's proof you spent your life skiing, sailing and gardening. Plus your husband and all the women around you are strongly supporting this ethos. You love to walk. You even go on vacations to walk -- like rambling through the Cottwsolds for example. You believe a good brisk walk and a hot cup of tea will fix most any mood.

You don't complai. You don't get waxed, blow-outs, manicures. You don't spend money on yourself as in "self-care" unless buying a new bulb-digger to plant fall bulbs is considered self-care. Maybe you slap on some lipstick for Christmas Vespers at church.

You under no circumstances try to be sexy or trendy. You are practical and timeless in your fashion.

You focus on family, volunteer work in your community -- esp. if it's plants/garden related!, do the NYT crossword puzzle, carry on centuries old traditions like baking weird food no one actually wants, decoating and celebrating all the holidays, and most importantly embracing this stage of life as an adult women who has earned respect and dignity and is not trying to recapture her youth.

Oh and books, always be reading something that someone you respect suggested. Start your sentences with "The other day I heard on NPR . . ."

You join -- church, civic groups, tennis ladders, garden clubs, book clubs etc.

Of course what makes this all possible is that literally all of the people in my mom's social circle are the same! NPR-listening, no-nonsense, dog-loving, gardeners.

This describes A LOT of older women, minus the sailing. Most older ladies in my neighborhood spend their days walking their dogs and tending to their gardens, and don’t wear a stitch of make up!

Yes. And I bet they are not tweaking their faces!

The OP asked "Why do rich women pay lots of money to deform their faces to look like this?" and I responded that none of the rich women I know do anything of the sort.

Such a grounded response. Thank you!

I would rather be around someone comfortable in their own skin than one trying to chase their own fountain of youth with all these extras that make them look bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is just sad.

In her prime, Madonna was the epitome of true, natural beauty.
I remember during the mid-/late-eighties…..EVERYone & their Mother we’re trying to emulate Madonna’s beauty + style.
Now she just looks like an old granny.
Her looks have really gone south since she hit forty-five. 😓

Gwen Stefani was always such a beauty too.
She just recently started looking like this.
J Lo is a few months older than her and she looks so much better than her.

Reason being is that if J Lo does get surgery, she only gets mild tweaks.
Gwen looks like she got a totally different face.

J Lo ages the good old-fashioned way.
I.e., working out regularly, eating clean, staying out of the sun and using her own skincare product.

You're hilarious. J. Lo absolutely gets tons of Botox and fillers. I've seen her in person and she can't furrow her brows and her forehead is like glass. That said, it's not overdone like other examples but the "good old-fashioned way" must mean to you LIGHT Botox and fillers.

And huge fake boobs. Did you see that ridiculous outfit she wore recently to the funeral? Plunging v neck with half her giant boobs showing. To a funeral.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is just sad.

In her prime, Madonna was the epitome of true, natural beauty.
I remember during the mid-/late-eighties…..EVERYone & their Mother we’re trying to emulate Madonna’s beauty + style.
Now she just looks like an old granny.
Her looks have really gone south since she hit forty-five. 😓

Gwen Stefani was always such a beauty too.
She just recently started looking like this.
J Lo is a few months older than her and she looks so much better than her.

Reason being is that if J Lo does get surgery, she only gets mild tweaks.
Gwen looks like she got a totally different face.

J Lo ages the good old-fashioned way.
I.e., working out regularly, eating clean, staying out of the sun and using her own skincare product.

You're hilarious. J. Lo absolutely gets tons of Botox and fillers. I've seen her in person and she can't furrow her brows and her forehead is like glass. That said, it's not overdone like other examples but the "good old-fashioned way" must mean to you LIGHT Botox and fillers.

And huge fake boobs. Did you see that ridiculous outfit she wore recently to the funeral? Plunging v neck with half her giant boobs showing. To a funeral.

And this is the thing. Ppl will post on this board of women "gracefully aging" and almost all the women mentioned have had some form of enhancement. Helen Mirren is often brought up and she's had a full face lift!! And that's perfectly okay. You all just use examples of women who overdo it as the reason that no woman should ever get any procedure and it's ridiculous. Embracing your age and deciding to have botox or whatever isn't in opposition of each other. You can do both - embrace your age, but do some cosmetic procedure that is reasonable to make yourself feel better. And at the end of the day, even if it's over the top - these women are actively choosing the look - for whatever reason and it's not always insecurity. We really judge each other very harshly and it's weird.

[Anonymous]

Here's J. Lo's funeral look that someone mentioned. I am sure she has had work done, but I appreciate that she still looks like herself and not everyone else. I have said in other threads that when you see non-airbrushed photos of her, she looks closer to her real age than in airbrushed photos. I am 45 and I think she looks around my age (yes I know she's 50+). I also think her chest looks old in this photo - you can see it above her boobs (which are so awfully pushed up, it looks terrible).

[Anonymous]

Jane Fonda has had multiple surgeries but has never looked lizard or cat-like. I really don't understand how Priscilla Presley, Meg Ryan, Madonna, and Gwen Stefani have had work that looks so bad. Makes me sad to see it. They apparently don't really have the underlying self-confidence they say they have.

[Anonymous]

Here's another J. Lo photo from that funeral. I think she looks like a lot of rich middle aged women I know in big cities (they've had light cosmetic work, are in really, really good shape, spend a ton of money on skincare products and wear a lot of makeup).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jane Fonda has had multiple surgeries but has never looked lizard or cat-like. I really don't understand how Priscilla Presley, Meg Ryan, Madonna, and Gwen Stefani have had work that looks so bad. Makes me sad to see it. They apparently don't really have the underlying self-confidence they say they have.

It does seem odd that someone so rich couldn't get better plastic surgery.

Of course, as a society we literally told them their value was in their youthful good looks so now we're hypocrites if we blame them for trying to hold onto them.

[Anonymous]

I find it even more shocking that so many young women look bizarrely puffy--giant lips, fillers, etc--when they are in their 20s. But I think that the more celebrities do this the more this weird exaggerated look seems "ok" and not freaky.

Plastic surgery can be an amazing antitode to aging--mostly in good neck/facelists, skin resurfacing and maybe some very well placed subtle filler. It can also ruin your looks completely.

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I mean, the answer to the question is that it's a choice between looking weird and looking old. Women who age naturally are told they look terrible and are letting themselves go. If Gwen did that she probably would never work again. No one wakes up and is like "I want my face to look crazy" but they go too far with the fillers and injections bc to them (and society) it's still better than looking old

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Man that is so sad to see. She was always so beautiful!

I always see responses like this - why did she ruin her looks! She was so beautiful!

Sure she was. In her 20s. She doesn't look like that now. She is old, and her choices are looking old, or having surgery. Keeping the same face she had in her 20s is not an option

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Jane Fonda has had multiple surgeries but has never looked lizard or cat-like. I really don't understand how Priscilla Presley, Meg Ryan, Madonna, and Gwen Stefani have had work that looks so bad. Makes me sad to see it. They apparently don't really have the underlying self-confidence they say they have.

It does seem odd that someone so rich couldn't get better plastic surgery.

Of course, as a society we literally told them their value was in their youthful good looks so now we're hypocrites if we blame them for trying to hold onto them.

+1. Also, if she didn't get any surgery/work people would say she looks so old and is aging terribly

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. Why is this a thing?

She doesn’t look bad (like it’s not frightening or grotesque) but she doesn’t look like her old self either. She used to be really pretty.

Is Blake much younger than her?

It's also that contouring makeup and weird gigantic eyelashes. It's like they are all aliens wearing flesh masks trying to pass as human.

This look reminds me of the descriptions of the people from the Capitol in the Hunger Games books.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. Why is this a thing?

She doesn’t look bad (like it’s not frightening or grotesque) but she doesn’t look like her old self either. She used to be really pretty.

Is Blake much younger than her?

It's also that contouring makeup and weird gigantic eyelashes. It's like they are all aliens wearing flesh masks trying to pass as human.

This look reminds me of the descriptions of the people from the Capitol in the Hunger Games books.

This is exactly what I have always thought as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's another J. Lo photo from that funeral. I think she looks like a lot of rich middle aged women I know in big cities (they've had light cosmetic work, are in really, really good shape, spend a ton of money on skincare products and wear a lot of makeup).

I think some of this is also genetics and having skin that does not age as quickly/noticeably. A subset of people that tends to age really poorly is super pale skinned people who didn't stay out of the sun...