Why do rich women pay lots of money to deform their faces to look like this?

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

Thank God someone is here to defend rich women. The right rich women anyway.

Happy to do it! You can ask me anything about the “right” way to age, my people have very strong opinions.

Please tell me how to age like an NE Yankee, I am curious

OK, I will.

You develop a non-nonsense approach to life -- you get up early, you spend a chunk of the day outside, even in foul weather -- probably with dogs -- you don't mind your skin being weathered b/c it's proof you spent your life skiing, sailing and gardening. Plus your husband and all the women around you are strongly supporting this ethos. You love to walk. You even go on vacations to walk -- like rambling through the Cottwsolds for example. You believe a good brisk walk and a hot cup of tea will fix most any mood.

You don't complai. You don't get waxed, blow-outs, manicures. You don't spend money on yourself as in "self-care" unless buying a new bulb-digger to plant fall bulbs is considered self-care. Maybe you slap on some lipstick for Christmas Vespers at church.

You under no circumstances try to be sexy or trendy. You are practical and timeless in your fashion.

You focus on family, volunteer work in your community -- esp. if it's plants/garden related!, do the NYT crossword puzzle, carry on centuries old traditions like baking weird food no one actually wants, decoating and celebrating all the holidays, and most importantly embracing this stage of life as an adult women who has earned respect and dignity and is not trying to recapture her youth.

Oh and books, always be reading something that someone you respect suggested. Start your sentences with "The other day I heard on NPR . . ."

You join -- church, civic groups, tennis ladders, garden clubs, book clubs etc.

Of course what makes this all possible is that literally all of the people in my mom's social circle are the same! NPR-listening, no-nonsense, dog-loving, gardeners.

Huh. I grew up in New England, my parents still live there, and while I def see some of that "still shoveling the driveway at 90" sort of thing my mother and her friends are a lot artsier, and a lot more vain. My mom hasn't had surgery or fillers but she spends a good fortune on skincare products - and her skin looks great. She's always worn makeup and gotten manicures. She is partially disabled and we are Jewish, and she isn't going to church or spending all day outside. We do love gardening, though - you've got us there.

But wow you sure have a limited view of what "New England" women are like. I'm guessing you're from a wealthy town in Connecticut?

Actually, a wealthy town in Mass! But I am only talking about my mom and her people. Of course NE is filled with all types, but it is striking this sub-culture of NE women like my mom and her friends who seem to totally buck the current trends of long, highlighted hair, botox, fake tans, teddy clothes for older women. They seem to totally own their age.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

Thank God someone is here to defend rich women. The right rich women anyway.

Happy to do it! You can ask me anything about the “right” way to age, my people have very strong opinions.

Please tell me how to age like an NE Yankee, I am curious

OK, I will.

You develop a non-nonsense approach to life -- you get up early, you spend a chunk of the day outside, even in foul weather -- probably with dogs -- you don't mind your skin being weathered b/c it's proof you spent your life skiing, sailing and gardening. Plus your husband and all the women around you are strongly supporting this ethos. You love to walk. You even go on vacations to walk -- like rambling through the Cottwsolds for example. You believe a good brisk walk and a hot cup of tea will fix most any mood.

You don't complai. You don't get waxed, blow-outs, manicures. You don't spend money on yourself as in "self-care" unless buying a new bulb-digger to plant fall bulbs is considered self-care. Maybe you slap on some lipstick for Christmas Vespers at church.

You under no circumstances try to be sexy or trendy. You are practical and timeless in your fashion.

You focus on family, volunteer work in your community -- esp. if it's plants/garden related!, do the NYT crossword puzzle, carry on centuries old traditions like baking weird food no one actually wants, decoating and celebrating all the holidays, and most importantly embracing this stage of life as an adult women who has earned respect and dignity and is not trying to recapture her youth.

Oh and books, always be reading something that someone you respect suggested. Start your sentences with "The other day I heard on NPR . . ."

You join -- church, civic groups, tennis ladders, garden clubs, book clubs etc.

Of course what makes this all possible is that literally all of the people in my mom's social circle are the same! NPR-listening, no-nonsense, dog-loving, gardeners.

This is me and I'm 42. Minus the gardening.

I wear makeup like once a month. I would never get plastic surgery that wasn't corrective. I've never dyed my hair, and I just air dry it. I do take care of my skin - sunscreen since my 20s, tretinoin and growth factors now. I'm self conscious about my chin so I just bought a little exerciser for it. So there are things I do care about, but a lot of lines I won't cross.

I do look at the lizard people and think . . . what the, why? But also, live and let live. To me, it doesn't make sense to spend money on potentially risky surgery just to look worse. But we also get to choose how we spend our money and time and what we want to look like. I just hope people feel empowered and beautiful and they're not imprisoned by some unrealistic body ideal or suffering from dysmorphia.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

Thank God someone is here to defend rich women. The right rich women anyway.

Happy to do it! You can ask me anything about the “right” way to age, my people have very strong opinions.

Please tell me how to age like an NE Yankee, I am curious

OK, I will.

You develop a non-nonsense approach to life -- you get up early, you spend a chunk of the day outside, even in foul weather -- probably with dogs -- you don't mind your skin being weathered b/c it's proof you spent your life skiing, sailing and gardening. Plus your husband and all the women around you are strongly supporting this ethos. You love to walk. You even go on vacations to walk -- like rambling through the Cottwsolds for example. You believe a good brisk walk and a hot cup of tea will fix most any mood.

You don't complai. You don't get waxed, blow-outs, manicures. You don't spend money on yourself as in "self-care" unless buying a new bulb-digger to plant fall bulbs is considered self-care. Maybe you slap on some lipstick for Christmas Vespers at church.

You under no circumstances try to be sexy or trendy. You are practical and timeless in your fashion.

You focus on family, volunteer work in your community -- esp. if it's plants/garden related!, do the NYT crossword puzzle, carry on centuries old traditions like baking weird food no one actually wants, decoating and celebrating all the holidays, and most importantly embracing this stage of life as an adult women who has earned respect and dignity and is not trying to recapture her youth.

Oh and books, always be reading something that someone you respect suggested. Start your sentences with "The other day I heard on NPR . . ."

You join -- church, civic groups, tennis ladders, garden clubs, book clubs etc.

Of course what makes this all possible is that literally all of the people in my mom's social circle are the same! NPR-listening, no-nonsense, dog-loving, gardeners.

Huh. I grew up in New England, my parents still live there, and while I def see some of that "still shoveling the driveway at 90" sort of thing my mother and her friends are a lot artsier, and a lot more vain. My mom hasn't had surgery or fillers but she spends a good fortune on skincare products - and her skin looks great. She's always worn makeup and gotten manicures. She is partially disabled and we are Jewish, and she isn't going to church or spending all day outside. We do love gardening, though - you've got us there.

But wow you sure have a limited view of what "New England" women are like. I'm guessing you're from a wealthy town in Connecticut?

Actually, a wealthy town in Mass! But I am only talking about my mom and her people. Of course NE is filled with all types, but it is striking this sub-culture of NE women like my mom and her friends who seem to totally buck the current trends of long, highlighted hair, botox, fake tans, teddy clothes for older women. They seem to totally own their age.

I am the PP - and I def prefer that look to the spray tan and alien mask thing that others have going on. Luckily my mom and her friends aren't doing that - though I think some have had very tasteful face lifts. Anyway, I raise my warm mug of cider to you.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously. Why is this a thing?

She doesn’t look bad (like it’s not frightening or grotesque) but she doesn’t look like her old self either. She used to be really pretty.

Is Blake much younger than her?

She does look bad, though. Her mouth, her eyes, her cheeks - it all looks painfully (in both senses of the word) wrong. Every part of her face below her eyebrows looks like it hurts.

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Mental illness, insecure, predatory plastic surgeons and dermatologists... and access to millions of dollars.

Not to mention this look is all over reality TV.

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Anonymous wrote:Man that is so sad to see. She was always so beautiful!

She’s ALWAYS had a ton of work done. You liked it until you didn’t.

She had a lot of work done in 1997? I don't think so.

I don't even recognize this Gwen.



- new poster who agrees she was beautiful and insanely cool

She's 53. Of course she was cute and skinny in her 20s and very early 30s.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

I thought the old-eomen-looking-like-men thing only applies to midwestern women? Like Nebraska?

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Anonymous wrote:Man that is so sad to see. She was always so beautiful!

She’s ALWAYS had a ton of work done. You liked it until you didn’t.

She had a lot of work done in 1997? I don't think so.

I don't even recognize this Gwen.



- new poster who agrees she was beautiful and insanely cool

She's 53. Of course she was cute and skinny in her 20s and very early 30s.

Okay, but PP said she's always had work done. That is false.

She could still be beautiful and cool in her 50s, but she's not. She didn't stay true to herself. It's truly awful

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Anonymous wrote:It's so crazy, they really are all starting to look the same. Gwen looks almost unrecognizable. At first glance, I thought it was Madonna. Then I looked a little more closely and realized who it was. Yes, that was before I read the caption, LOL!

Exactly. At first I was just looking at the photo and not the caption, and I didn’t know who it was. I thought it was some random woman from Real Housewives or something.

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I don’t know why people do this to themselves voluntarily but THANK YOU to the OP and Madonna picture poster for those photos. I just applied a seaweed mud mask to my face and will apply a mask to my hands later on as well. Of course I confirmed I have no meetings scheduled this morning .

Hand sanitizing etc has done a terrible number on my hands. #40yearoldnoplasticsurgery

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Aging beautifully list

Ellen Barkin - 68

Cindy Crawford - 56

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Anonymous wrote:Man that is so sad to see. She was always so beautiful!

She’s ALWAYS had a ton of work done. You liked it until you didn’t.

She had a lot of work done in 1997? I don't think so.

I don't even recognize this Gwen.



- new poster who agrees she was beautiful and insanely cool

She's 53. Of course she was cute and skinny in her 20s and very early 30s.

Okay, but PP said she's always had work done. That is false.

She could still be beautiful and cool in her 50s, but she's not. She didn't stay true to herself. It's truly awful

I feel like a great counter-example is Marissa Tomei. She's in her late 50s. I assume that she's probably had some work done. But she doesn't look like she is chasing youth and turning herself into an alien while doing it. She looks like a really beautiful women who is in her late 50s.

I of course can't find any good pics to illustrate this right now but use the Google machine. I just think this every time I see her in a movie now - she looks like a woman who has allowed herself to age. Being incredibly beautiful and genetically gifted, I'm sure, helps - you probably don't hate what you see in the mirror when you are Marissa Tomei. But it must be tempting to get a face lift, injections, etc etc etc, and I'm glad she at least looks like she's not doing it.

Maybe this is a New York v California thing?

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Anonymous wrote:Madonna is a mess - all that work on face and her hands show her age

Omg WHAT is that seriously Madonna?!

It's not helping that she has no (bleached?) eyebrows in this pic.

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Anonymous wrote:Aging beautifully list

Ellen Barkin - 68

Cindy Crawford - 56

Not cindy, nope. She has done enough work that it ended up unintentionally masculine. She has said herself that people have compared Caitlin Jenner’s appearance to hers.

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Anonymous wrote:I really don’t think this is a “rich women” thing. Sadly women of all socioeconomic classes do this.

OTOH my mother and her friends are all “rich” women and they are aging old school NE Yankee style, grey men’s hair cuts, no makeup, turtlenecks and pearl studs. So its really more of a class than a wealth thing.

Thank God someone is here to defend rich women. The right rich women anyway.

Happy to do it! You can ask me anything about the “right” way to age, my people have very strong opinions.

Please tell me how to age like an NE Yankee, I am curious

OK, I will.

You develop a non-nonsense approach to life -- you get up early, you spend a chunk of the day outside, even in foul weather -- probably with dogs -- you don't mind your skin being weathered b/c it's proof you spent your life skiing, sailing and gardening. Plus your husband and all the women around you are strongly supporting this ethos. You love to walk. You even go on vacations to walk -- like rambling through the Cottwsolds for example. You believe a good brisk walk and a hot cup of tea will fix most any mood.

You don't complai. You don't get waxed, blow-outs, manicures. You don't spend money on yourself as in "self-care" unless buying a new bulb-digger to plant fall bulbs is considered self-care. Maybe you slap on some lipstick for Christmas Vespers at church.

You under no circumstances try to be sexy or trendy. You are practical and timeless in your fashion.

You focus on family, volunteer work in your community -- esp. if it's plants/garden related!, do the NYT crossword puzzle, carry on centuries old traditions like baking weird food no one actually wants, decoating and celebrating all the holidays, and most importantly embracing this stage of life as an adult women who has earned respect and dignity and is not trying to recapture her youth.

Oh and books, always be reading something that someone you respect suggested. Start your sentences with "The other day I heard on NPR . . ."

You join -- church, civic groups, tennis ladders, garden clubs, book clubs etc.

Of course what makes this all possible is that literally all of the people in my mom's social circle are the same! NPR-listening, no-nonsense, dog-loving, gardeners.

I love all of this but the gardening part. I just can't bring myself to like gardening.