Does FCPS have any requirements for instructors regarding posting grades in timely fashion

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Anonymous wrote:This is a long-standing problem in FCPS with terrible consequences for students. But most teachers, particularly those who post here, will be incredibly defensive about it. They, quite frankly, do not seem to think that grading is important enough to prioritize over other tasks. And administrators must agree because there is never any change.

I'd lodge concerns, in writing, to the counselor and principle, but do not expect any change.

Which task should we drop so we can grade? Should I drop planning lessons? That means I won’t be ready when your child shows up in my classroom on Monday. Should I drop logging and analyzing student data? That means I’ll have no idea how well your child is doing over them. Maybe I should drop parking lot duty and cafeteria duty, even though my contract dictates that I am responsible for fulfilling them. Maybe I should drop answering the tsunami of parent and student emails I get each day, or I should refuse to go to IEP meetings.

I get less than an hour of work time each day. I usually have over 5 hours of work to do. There’s the math and that’s the reason grading takes a while.

If you want more timely feedback, then join teachers in the fight for more reasonable workloads. I’ve worked 6 hours already today, on a Saturday. I’m nowhere near done.

The teachers here who refuse to work on weekends have the right idea. They are forcing an appropriate work/life balance while I’ll burn out and quit.

Proving the OPs point. Sorry your job sucks. But that doesn’t change the fact that grading isn’t happening and childrens education is suffering because of it.

If teachers’ jobs suck, if teachers are suffering, then “children’s education suffering” does seem a likely outcome. Do you expect teachers to suffer even more for the “sake of the kids?” Oh no no. This is a job, my friend. Those of us who have been beaten down by the likes of you and yours have no incentive to try and martyr ourselves for ungrateful folks who *expect* us to do sacrifice our own personal lives as a matter of course.

+1, I’m not working more hours than I already am for “the sake of the kids.” If they are suffering that is the parents problem. I’m working 50 hours a week and that’s my limit. No it’s in the parents to find the solution or pressure FCPS to find one.

So you aren't grading work, knowing it adversely affects children, in an effort to pressure admin to do something? You are using the kids to further your efforts to enact change. How did you feel about the asylum seekers being shipped to Martha's Vineyard?

Who said I wasn’t grading work? I am, when I have time. It is not more important than my family on nights and weekends. I’m simply saying if it’s a priority for YOU (since is low in my scale) work with admin to reduce our other priorities.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a long-standing problem in FCPS with terrible consequences for students. But most teachers, particularly those who post here, will be incredibly defensive about it. They, quite frankly, do not seem to think that grading is important enough to prioritize over other tasks. And administrators must agree because there is never any change.

I'd lodge concerns, in writing, to the counselor and principle, but do not expect any change.

Which task should we drop so we can grade? Should I drop planning lessons? That means I won’t be ready when your child shows up in my classroom on Monday. Should I drop logging and analyzing student data? That means I’ll have no idea how well your child is doing over them. Maybe I should drop parking lot duty and cafeteria duty, even though my contract dictates that I am responsible for fulfilling them. Maybe I should drop answering the tsunami of parent and student emails I get each day, or I should refuse to go to IEP meetings.

I get less than an hour of work time each day. I usually have over 5 hours of work to do. There’s the math and that’s the reason grading takes a while.

If you want more timely feedback, then join teachers in the fight for more reasonable workloads. I’ve worked 6 hours already today, on a Saturday. I’m nowhere near done.

The teachers here who refuse to work on weekends have the right idea. They are forcing an appropriate work/life balance while I’ll burn out and quit.

Proving the OPs point. Sorry your job sucks. But that doesn’t change the fact that grading isn’t happening and childrens education is suffering because of it.

If teachers’ jobs suck, if teachers are suffering, then “children’s education suffering” does seem a likely outcome. Do you expect teachers to suffer even more for the “sake of the kids?” Oh no no. This is a job, my friend. Those of us who have been beaten down by the likes of you and yours have no incentive to try and martyr ourselves for ungrateful folks who *expect* us to do sacrifice our own personal lives as a matter of course.

+1, I’m not working more hours than I already am for “the sake of the kids.” If they are suffering that is the parents problem. I’m working 50 hours a week and that’s my limit. No it’s in the parents to find the solution or pressure FCPS to find one.

So you aren't grading work, knowing it adversely affects children, in an effort to pressure admin to do something? You are using the kids to further your efforts to enact change. How did you feel about the asylum seekers being shipped to Martha's Vineyard?

Who said I wasn’t grading work? I am, when I have time. It is not more important than my family on nights and weekends. I’m simply saying if it’s a priority for YOU (since is low in my scale) work with admin to reduce our other priorities.

Another teacher here. Planning always takes priority over grading. I can’t imagine walking into a room of 30 kids without a plan.

I’m cutting off my work at 55 hours a week this year. Yes, that means grading will be delayed. The only other option is to destroy whatever work/life balance I’m trying to maintain, and I won’t do that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a long-standing problem in FCPS with terrible consequences for students. But most teachers, particularly those who post here, will be incredibly defensive about it. They, quite frankly, do not seem to think that grading is important enough to prioritize over other tasks. And administrators must agree because there is never any change.

I'd lodge concerns, in writing, to the counselor and principle, but do not expect any change.

Which task should we drop so we can grade? Should I drop planning lessons? That means I won’t be ready when your child shows up in my classroom on Monday. Should I drop logging and analyzing student data? That means I’ll have no idea how well your child is doing over them. Maybe I should drop parking lot duty and cafeteria duty, even though my contract dictates that I am responsible for fulfilling them. Maybe I should drop answering the tsunami of parent and student emails I get each day, or I should refuse to go to IEP meetings.

I get less than an hour of work time each day. I usually have over 5 hours of work to do. There’s the math and that’s the reason grading takes a while.

If you want more timely feedback, then join teachers in the fight for more reasonable workloads. I’ve worked 6 hours already today, on a Saturday. I’m nowhere near done.

The teachers here who refuse to work on weekends have the right idea. They are forcing an appropriate work/life balance while I’ll burn out and quit.

Proving the OPs point. Sorry your job sucks. But that doesn’t change the fact that grading isn’t happening and childrens education is suffering because of it.

If teachers’ jobs suck, if teachers are suffering, then “children’s education suffering” does seem a likely outcome. Do you expect teachers to suffer even more for the “sake of the kids?” Oh no no. This is a job, my friend. Those of us who have been beaten down by the likes of you and yours have no incentive to try and martyr ourselves for ungrateful folks who *expect* us to do sacrifice our own personal lives as a matter of course.

+1, I’m not working more hours than I already am for “the sake of the kids.” If they are suffering that is the parents problem. I’m working 50 hours a week and that’s my limit. No it’s in the parents to find the solution or pressure FCPS to find one.

So you aren't grading work, knowing it adversely affects children, in an effort to pressure admin to do something? You are using the kids to further your efforts to enact change. How did you feel about the asylum seekers being shipped to Martha's Vineyard?

Who said I wasn’t grading work? I am, when I have time. It is not more important than my family on nights and weekends. I’m simply saying if it’s a priority for YOU (since is low in my scale) work with admin to reduce our other priorities.

So you're saying it's up to parents to improve your working conditions and until we do, our children aren't going to get timely feedback on their work? That sounds like blackmail.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a long-standing problem in FCPS with terrible consequences for students. But most teachers, particularly those who post here, will be incredibly defensive about it. They, quite frankly, do not seem to think that grading is important enough to prioritize over other tasks. And administrators must agree because there is never any change.

I'd lodge concerns, in writing, to the counselor and principle, but do not expect any change.

Which task should we drop so we can grade? Should I drop planning lessons? That means I won’t be ready when your child shows up in my classroom on Monday. Should I drop logging and analyzing student data? That means I’ll have no idea how well your child is doing over them. Maybe I should drop parking lot duty and cafeteria duty, even though my contract dictates that I am responsible for fulfilling them. Maybe I should drop answering the tsunami of parent and student emails I get each day, or I should refuse to go to IEP meetings.

I get less than an hour of work time each day. I usually have over 5 hours of work to do. There’s the math and that’s the reason grading takes a while.

If you want more timely feedback, then join teachers in the fight for more reasonable workloads. I’ve worked 6 hours already today, on a Saturday. I’m nowhere near done.

The teachers here who refuse to work on weekends have the right idea. They are forcing an appropriate work/life balance while I’ll burn out and quit.

Proving the OPs point. Sorry your job sucks. But that doesn’t change the fact that grading isn’t happening and childrens education is suffering because of it.

If teachers’ jobs suck, if teachers are suffering, then “children’s education suffering” does seem a likely outcome. Do you expect teachers to suffer even more for the “sake of the kids?” Oh no no. This is a job, my friend. Those of us who have been beaten down by the likes of you and yours have no incentive to try and martyr ourselves for ungrateful folks who *expect* us to do sacrifice our own personal lives as a matter of course.

+1, I’m not working more hours than I already am for “the sake of the kids.” If they are suffering that is the parents problem. I’m working 50 hours a week and that’s my limit. No it’s in the parents to find the solution or pressure FCPS to find one.

So you aren't grading work, knowing it adversely affects children, in an effort to pressure admin to do something? You are using the kids to further your efforts to enact change. How did you feel about the asylum seekers being shipped to Martha's Vineyard?

Who said I wasn’t grading work? I am, when I have time. It is not more important than my family on nights and weekends. I’m simply saying if it’s a priority for YOU (since is low in my scale) work with admin to reduce our other priorities.

So you're saying it's up to parents to improve your working conditions and until we do, our children aren't going to get timely feedback on their work? That sounds like blackmail.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a long-standing problem in FCPS with terrible consequences for students. But most teachers, particularly those who post here, will be incredibly defensive about it. They, quite frankly, do not seem to think that grading is important enough to prioritize over other tasks. And administrators must agree because there is never any change.

I'd lodge concerns, in writing, to the counselor and principle, but do not expect any change.

Which task should we drop so we can grade? Should I drop planning lessons? That means I won’t be ready when your child shows up in my classroom on Monday. Should I drop logging and analyzing student data? That means I’ll have no idea how well your child is doing over them. Maybe I should drop parking lot duty and cafeteria duty, even though my contract dictates that I am responsible for fulfilling them. Maybe I should drop answering the tsunami of parent and student emails I get each day, or I should refuse to go to IEP meetings.

I get less than an hour of work time each day. I usually have over 5 hours of work to do. There’s the math and that’s the reason grading takes a while.

If you want more timely feedback, then join teachers in the fight for more reasonable workloads. I’ve worked 6 hours already today, on a Saturday. I’m nowhere near done.

The teachers here who refuse to work on weekends have the right idea. They are forcing an appropriate work/life balance while I’ll burn out and quit.

Proving the OPs point. Sorry your job sucks. But that doesn’t change the fact that grading isn’t happening and childrens education is suffering because of it.

If teachers’ jobs suck, if teachers are suffering, then “children’s education suffering” does seem a likely outcome. Do you expect teachers to suffer even more for the “sake of the kids?” Oh no no. This is a job, my friend. Those of us who have been beaten down by the likes of you and yours have no incentive to try and martyr ourselves for ungrateful folks who *expect* us to do sacrifice our own personal lives as a matter of course.

+1, I’m not working more hours than I already am for “the sake of the kids.” If they are suffering that is the parents problem. I’m working 50 hours a week and that’s my limit. No it’s in the parents to find the solution or pressure FCPS to find one.

So you aren't grading work, knowing it adversely affects children, in an effort to pressure admin to do something? You are using the kids to further your efforts to enact change. How did you feel about the asylum seekers being shipped to Martha's Vineyard?

Who said I wasn’t grading work? I am, when I have time. It is not more important than my family on nights and weekends. I’m simply saying if it’s a priority for YOU (since is low in my scale) work with admin to reduce our other priorities.

So you're saying it's up to parents to improve your working conditions and until we do, our children aren't going to get timely feedback on their work? That sounds like blackmail.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a long-standing problem in FCPS with terrible consequences for students. But most teachers, particularly those who post here, will be incredibly defensive about it. They, quite frankly, do not seem to think that grading is important enough to prioritize over other tasks. And administrators must agree because there is never any change.

I'd lodge concerns, in writing, to the counselor and principle, but do not expect any change.

Which task should we drop so we can grade? Should I drop planning lessons? That means I won’t be ready when your child shows up in my classroom on Monday. Should I drop logging and analyzing student data? That means I’ll have no idea how well your child is doing over them. Maybe I should drop parking lot duty and cafeteria duty, even though my contract dictates that I am responsible for fulfilling them. Maybe I should drop answering the tsunami of parent and student emails I get each day, or I should refuse to go to IEP meetings.

I get less than an hour of work time each day. I usually have over 5 hours of work to do. There’s the math and that’s the reason grading takes a while.

If you want more timely feedback, then join teachers in the fight for more reasonable workloads. I’ve worked 6 hours already today, on a Saturday. I’m nowhere near done.

The teachers here who refuse to work on weekends have the right idea. They are forcing an appropriate work/life balance while I’ll burn out and quit.

Proving the OPs point. Sorry your job sucks. But that doesn’t change the fact that grading isn’t happening and childrens education is suffering because of it.

If teachers’ jobs suck, if teachers are suffering, then “children’s education suffering” does seem a likely outcome. Do you expect teachers to suffer even more for the “sake of the kids?” Oh no no. This is a job, my friend. Those of us who have been beaten down by the likes of you and yours have no incentive to try and martyr ourselves for ungrateful folks who *expect* us to do sacrifice our own personal lives as a matter of course.

+1, I’m not working more hours than I already am for “the sake of the kids.” If they are suffering that is the parents problem. I’m working 50 hours a week and that’s my limit. No it’s in the parents to find the solution or pressure FCPS to find one.

So you aren't grading work, knowing it adversely affects children, in an effort to pressure admin to do something? You are using the kids to further your efforts to enact change. How did you feel about the asylum seekers being shipped to Martha's Vineyard?

Who said I wasn’t grading work? I am, when I have time. It is not more important than my family on nights and weekends. I’m simply saying if it’s a priority for YOU (since is low in my scale) work with admin to reduce our other priorities.

So you're saying it's up to parents to improve your working conditions and until we do, our children aren't going to get timely feedback on their work? That sounds like blackmail.

Grading has been my lowest priority for 12 years. Many, many of my previous students have graduated from college and have jobs - it wasn’t as important as you think.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is an ongoing issue and I'm not a teacher hater, I respect teachers, but this happens consistently in my experience with high school.

Last year, my child received a poor grade for the quarter and the teacher contacted us with concerns about the student's performance -- this was once the quarter was over. I asked how does it get to this point? Shouldn't there have obvious signs the quarter wasn't going well? Teacher didn't know until after the quarter was done as the grades weren't done until the end of the quarter and she assumed everything was okay since the kid did fine the previous quarter.

Grading should happen consistently and timely throughout a quarter so that kids know where they stand, parents can check in and see what's going on, and teachers know if they need to course adjust.

I don't expect grading to happen instantaneously, but it should happen within a week of an assignment being handed in or a test being completed.

You all don’t realize that all teachers would like to focus on teaching. We really would. Unfortunately we are a free and easily used labor source for administration and end up as the duct tape that makes schools which don’t have enough counselors, security guards, substitute teachers, or test administrators — keep running. I have little to no time outside of class to plan and grade and I am unwilling to use my weekends or evenings to do extra work. I’m not paid near enough to be working 70 hour weeks.

In any case, you might try to suck it up and appreciate whatever feedback and attention you get, when you get it. You might feel entitled to certain “services” from your teacher but what are you going to do if you don’t get what you think you should get? If you complain to administration, you can bet that you will not be winning the affection of your kid’s teacher and you are probably hastening the teacher exodus.

I'm the person you quoted.

I don't complain, never said I complained. Your attitude stinks and if you can't understand why not grading in a timely fashion is a problem then you are in the wrong career.

The teachers on this site complain ad nauseum about how parents don't do enough, blah, blah, blah, but if work isn't graded, how am I supposed to know my student isn't doing well or how I can help? You tell us repeatedly we should not email the teachers as they don't have enough time to answer.

So tell me, exactly how do I support my student when I don't know how they are doing in class?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an ongoing issue and I'm not a teacher hater, I respect teachers, but this happens consistently in my experience with high school.

Last year, my child received a poor grade for the quarter and the teacher contacted us with concerns about the student's performance -- this was once the quarter was over. I asked how does it get to this point? Shouldn't there have obvious signs the quarter wasn't going well? Teacher didn't know until after the quarter was done as the grades weren't done until the end of the quarter and she assumed everything was okay since the kid did fine the previous quarter.

Grading should happen consistently and timely throughout a quarter so that kids know where they stand, parents can check in and see what's going on, and teachers know if they need to course adjust.

I don't expect grading to happen instantaneously, but it should happen within a week of an assignment being handed in or a test being completed.

You all don’t realize that all teachers would like to focus on teaching. We really would. Unfortunately we are a free and easily used labor source for administration and end up as the duct tape that makes schools which don’t have enough counselors, security guards, substitute teachers, or test administrators — keep running. I have little to no time outside of class to plan and grade and I am unwilling to use my weekends or evenings to do extra work. I’m not paid near enough to be working 70 hour weeks.

In any case, you might try to suck it up and appreciate whatever feedback and attention you get, when you get it. You might feel entitled to certain “services” from your teacher but what are you going to do if you don’t get what you think you should get? If you complain to administration, you can bet that you will not be winning the affection of your kid’s teacher and you are probably hastening the teacher exodus.

I'm the person you quoted.

I don't complain, never said I complained. Your attitude stinks and if you can't understand why not grading in a timely fashion is a problem then you are in the wrong career.

The teachers on this site complain ad nauseum about how parents don't do enough, blah, blah, blah, but if work isn't graded, how am I supposed to know my student isn't doing well or how I can help? You tell us repeatedly we should not email the teachers as they don't have enough time to answer.

So tell me, exactly how do I support my student when I don't know how they are doing in class?

Teachers don't really want us to support our students. Teachers want us to support THEM, the teachers, with the vague promise that they can then help our students. It feels like a racket: "You got a nice kid here, would be shame if they didn't get properly educated..."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an ongoing issue and I'm not a teacher hater, I respect teachers, but this happens consistently in my experience with high school.

Last year, my child received a poor grade for the quarter and the teacher contacted us with concerns about the student's performance -- this was once the quarter was over. I asked how does it get to this point? Shouldn't there have obvious signs the quarter wasn't going well? Teacher didn't know until after the quarter was done as the grades weren't done until the end of the quarter and she assumed everything was okay since the kid did fine the previous quarter.

Grading should happen consistently and timely throughout a quarter so that kids know where they stand, parents can check in and see what's going on, and teachers know if they need to course adjust.

I don't expect grading to happen instantaneously, but it should happen within a week of an assignment being handed in or a test being completed.

You all don’t realize that all teachers would like to focus on teaching. We really would. Unfortunately we are a free and easily used labor source for administration and end up as the duct tape that makes schools which don’t have enough counselors, security guards, substitute teachers, or test administrators — keep running. I have little to no time outside of class to plan and grade and I am unwilling to use my weekends or evenings to do extra work. I’m not paid near enough to be working 70 hour weeks.

In any case, you might try to suck it up and appreciate whatever feedback and attention you get, when you get it. You might feel entitled to certain “services” from your teacher but what are you going to do if you don’t get what you think you should get? If you complain to administration, you can bet that you will not be winning the affection of your kid’s teacher and you are probably hastening the teacher exodus.

I'm the person you quoted.

I don't complain, never said I complained. Your attitude stinks and if you can't understand why not grading in a timely fashion is a problem then you are in the wrong career.

The teachers on this site complain ad nauseum about how parents don't do enough, blah, blah, blah, but if work isn't graded, how am I supposed to know my student isn't doing well or how I can help? You tell us repeatedly we should not email the teachers as they don't have enough time to answer.

So tell me, exactly how do I support my student when I don't know how they are doing in class?

Teachers don't really want us to support our students. Teachers want us to support THEM, the teachers, with the vague promise that they can then help our students. It feels like a racket: "You got a nice kid here, would be shame if they didn't get properly educated..."

Sigh. Teachers don’t want you to support your students? You don’t have students. You have children. We absolutely do want you to support your children - the more support you give them, the more likely they are to realize their potential.

The emphasis on *constant* evaluation and grading of individual student work is not healthy for students and not feasible for some teachers with their class loads. I imagine math teachers churn out the grades quickly, but grading is a more time consuming and subjective process for humanities teachers whose main goal is to keep the students reading, writing, and learning.

You seem like a very young parent or a not well educated one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an ongoing issue and I'm not a teacher hater, I respect teachers, but this happens consistently in my experience with high school.

Last year, my child received a poor grade for the quarter and the teacher contacted us with concerns about the student's performance -- this was once the quarter was over. I asked how does it get to this point? Shouldn't there have obvious signs the quarter wasn't going well? Teacher didn't know until after the quarter was done as the grades weren't done until the end of the quarter and she assumed everything was okay since the kid did fine the previous quarter.

Grading should happen consistently and timely throughout a quarter so that kids know where they stand, parents can check in and see what's going on, and teachers know if they need to course adjust.

I don't expect grading to happen instantaneously, but it should happen within a week of an assignment being handed in or a test being completed.

Well, there are your expectations and there is reality. That you don’t know the often vast distance between the two concerns me. At some point your children will face disappointment, and if they deal with it the way you do - blaming other people and insisting they live up to what you think “should be,” they are going to lead difficult, angry, unproductive lives.

You all don’t realize that all teachers would like to focus on teaching. We really would. Unfortunately we are a free and easily used labor source for administration and end up as the duct tape that makes schools which don’t have enough counselors, security guards, substitute teachers, or test administrators — keep running. I have little to no time outside of class to plan and grade and I am unwilling to use my weekends or evenings to do extra work. I’m not paid near enough to be working 70 hour weeks.

In any case, you might try to suck it up and appreciate whatever feedback and attention you get, when you get it. You might feel entitled to certain “services” from your teacher but what are you going to do if you don’t get what you think you should get? If you complain to administration, you can bet that you will not be winning the affection of your kid’s teacher and you are probably hastening the teacher exodus.

I'm the person you quoted.

I don't complain, never said I complained. Your attitude stinks and if you can't understand why not grading in a timely fashion is a problem then you are in the wrong career.

The teachers on this site complain ad nauseum about how parents don't do enough, blah, blah, blah, but if work isn't graded, how am I supposed to know my student isn't doing well or how I can help? You tell us repeatedly we should not email the teachers as they don't have enough time to answer.

So tell me, exactly how do I support my student when I don't know how they are doing in class?

[Anonymous]

These posts are so exhausting but I don’t think I can get any grading done tonight

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is an ongoing issue and I'm not a teacher hater, I respect teachers, but this happens consistently in my experience with high school.

Last year, my child received a poor grade for the quarter and the teacher contacted us with concerns about the student's performance -- this was once the quarter was over. I asked how does it get to this point? Shouldn't there have obvious signs the quarter wasn't going well? Teacher didn't know until after the quarter was done as the grades weren't done until the end of the quarter and she assumed everything was okay since the kid did fine the previous quarter.

Grading should happen consistently and timely throughout a quarter so that kids know where they stand, parents can check in and see what's going on, and teachers know if they need to course adjust.

I don't expect grading to happen instantaneously, but it should happen within a week of an assignment being handed in or a test being completed.

You all don’t realize that all teachers would like to focus on teaching. We really would. Unfortunately we are a free and easily used labor source for administration and end up as the duct tape that makes schools which don’t have enough counselors, security guards, substitute teachers, or test administrators — keep running. I have little to no time outside of class to plan and grade and I am unwilling to use my weekends or evenings to do extra work. I’m not paid near enough to be working 70 hour weeks.

In any case, you might try to suck it up and appreciate whatever feedback and attention you get, when you get it. You might feel entitled to certain “services” from your teacher but what are you going to do if you don’t get what you think you should get? If you complain to administration, you can bet that you will not be winning the affection of your kid’s teacher and you are probably hastening the teacher exodus.

I'm the person you quoted.

I don't complain, never said I complained. Your attitude stinks and if you can't understand why not grading in a timely fashion is a problem then you are in the wrong career.

The teachers on this site complain ad nauseum about how parents don't do enough, blah, blah, blah, but if work isn't graded, how am I supposed to know my student isn't doing well or how I can help? You tell us repeatedly we should not email the teachers as they don't have enough time to answer.

So tell me, exactly how do I support my student when I don't know how they are doing in class?

Teachers don't really want us to support our students. Teachers want us to support THEM, the teachers, with the vague promise that they can then help our students. It feels like a racket: "You got a nice kid here, would be shame if they didn't get properly educated..."

Sigh. Teachers don’t want you to support your students? You don’t have students. You have children. We absolutely do want you to support your children - the more support you give them, the more likely they are to realize their potential.

The emphasis on *constant* evaluation and grading of individual student work is not healthy for students and not feasible for some teachers with their class loads. I imagine math teachers churn out the grades quickly, but grading is a more time consuming and subjective process for humanities teachers whose main goal is to keep the students reading, writing, and learning.

You seem like a very young parent or a not well educated one.

I have two adult children who went through FCPS K-12. I have a graduate degree. Stop insulting parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These posts are so exhausting but I don’t think I can get any grading done tonight

What’s new?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a long-standing problem in FCPS with terrible consequences for students. But most teachers, particularly those who post here, will be incredibly defensive about it. They, quite frankly, do not seem to think that grading is important enough to prioritize over other tasks. And administrators must agree because there is never any change.

I'd lodge concerns, in writing, to the counselor and principle, but do not expect any change.

Which task should we drop so we can grade? Should I drop planning lessons? That means I won’t be ready when your child shows up in my classroom on Monday. Should I drop logging and analyzing student data? That means I’ll have no idea how well your child is doing over them. Maybe I should drop parking lot duty and cafeteria duty, even though my contract dictates that I am responsible for fulfilling them. Maybe I should drop answering the tsunami of parent and student emails I get each day, or I should refuse to go to IEP meetings.

I get less than an hour of work time each day. I usually have over 5 hours of work to do. There’s the math and that’s the reason grading takes a while.

If you want more timely feedback, then join teachers in the fight for more reasonable workloads. I’ve worked 6 hours already today, on a Saturday. I’m nowhere near done.

The teachers here who refuse to work on weekends have the right idea. They are forcing an appropriate work/life balance while I’ll burn out and quit.

Proving the OPs point. Sorry your job sucks. But that doesn’t change the fact that grading isn’t happening and childrens education is suffering because of it.

If teachers’ jobs suck, if teachers are suffering, then “children’s education suffering” does seem a likely outcome. Do you expect teachers to suffer even more for the “sake of the kids?” Oh no no. This is a job, my friend. Those of us who have been beaten down by the likes of you and yours have no incentive to try and martyr ourselves for ungrateful folks who *expect* us to do sacrifice our own personal lives as a matter of course.

+1, I’m not working more hours than I already am for “the sake of the kids.” If they are suffering that is the parents problem. I’m working 50 hours a week and that’s my limit. No it’s in the parents to find the solution or pressure FCPS to find one.

So you aren't grading work, knowing it adversely affects children, in an effort to pressure admin to do something? You are using the kids to further your efforts to enact change. How did you feel about the asylum seekers being shipped to Martha's Vineyard?

They aren’t going to give hours and hours (yes, it takes that long) of their unpaid personal time to grade “for the chiiiiiiildrrreeeeen.” Deal with it.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a long-standing problem in FCPS with terrible consequences for students. But most teachers, particularly those who post here, will be incredibly defensive about it. They, quite frankly, do not seem to think that grading is important enough to prioritize over other tasks. And administrators must agree because there is never any change.

I'd lodge concerns, in writing, to the counselor and principle, but do not expect any change.

Which task should we drop so we can grade? Should I drop planning lessons? That means I won’t be ready when your child shows up in my classroom on Monday. Should I drop logging and analyzing student data? That means I’ll have no idea how well your child is doing over them. Maybe I should drop parking lot duty and cafeteria duty, even though my contract dictates that I am responsible for fulfilling them. Maybe I should drop answering the tsunami of parent and student emails I get each day, or I should refuse to go to IEP meetings.

I get less than an hour of work time each day. I usually have over 5 hours of work to do. There’s the math and that’s the reason grading takes a while.

If you want more timely feedback, then join teachers in the fight for more reasonable workloads. I’ve worked 6 hours already today, on a Saturday. I’m nowhere near done.

The teachers here who refuse to work on weekends have the right idea. They are forcing an appropriate work/life balance while I’ll burn out and quit.

Proving the OPs point. Sorry your job sucks. But that doesn’t change the fact that grading isn’t happening and childrens education is suffering because of it.

If teachers’ jobs suck, if teachers are suffering, then “children’s education suffering” does seem a likely outcome. Do you expect teachers to suffer even more for the “sake of the kids?” Oh no no. This is a job, my friend. Those of us who have been beaten down by the likes of you and yours have no incentive to try and martyr ourselves for ungrateful folks who *expect* us to do sacrifice our own personal lives as a matter of course.

+1, I’m not working more hours than I already am for “the sake of the kids.” If they are suffering that is the parents problem. I’m working 50 hours a week and that’s my limit. No it’s in the parents to find the solution or pressure FCPS to find one.

So you aren't grading work, knowing it adversely affects children, in an effort to pressure admin to do something? You are using the kids to further your efforts to enact change. How did you feel about the asylum seekers being shipped to Martha's Vineyard?

Who said I wasn’t grading work? I am, when I have time. It is not more important than my family on nights and weekends. I’m simply saying if it’s a priority for YOU (since is low in my scale) work with admin to reduce our other priorities.

So you're saying it's up to parents to improve your working conditions and until we do, our children aren't going to get timely feedback on their work? That sounds like blackmail.

Grow up.