Youngkin reduces teacher qualifications

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin didn’t drive away teachers. None of us care about the tip like. The ones I know left because of unrealistic demands from admin and central office staff which led them to not have enough time to do their jobs. Others left because they were sick of dealing with unruly parents or they didn’t like working with kids.

I’m a teacher and get frustrated by new initiatives put in every year that make my job harder and don’t benefit students. I voted for Youngkin.

I’m a teacher who also voted for him, and I DO care about the tip line. That is not what I voted for him to do. By the way- he hasn’t done any of that.

And I also want to say- all these folks that want to throw teaching licenses around don’t get it. It won’t work. This is about money. So many people can work from home now, and make the same or better, don’t have to pack lunch, don’t have to commute, don’t have to pay for gas, don’t have to pay for after school care (my Extended Day fees were $429 for one kid this past month). They’re not working every night and weekend for ten months. They can go to the bathroom, get coffee, or take leave for a doctor’s appointment without it being a huge ordeal. The kids are great, the summer off is nice, but financially, it’s not making up for it. Pay teachers fairly, and maybe people will want to do it.

I agree. It’s all about the pay. Especially in these expensive areas. IMO two married teachers should be able to afford at least a nice 3br townhouse within a reasonable drive of their school. If not, they are always going to be looking for jobs where they make more money. We had two excellent married teachers at our ES. They had a baby and within a year both left for private sector jobs and both were completely honest that they loved teaching and it was all about the money and buying a house/having more kids which they couldn’t do on their current pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If he didn’t do that, there would be no teachers. And no, Youngkin didn’t drive any teachers away. Ask any of them that have left the profession. Not one would have Youngkin on their list of reasons.

They would cite things like the hysteria over the phantom menace CRT, book banning and parents who don’t know their place, all of which are closely aligned with the Youngkin education agenda.

[Anonymous]

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Perhaps your “unqualified” teachers will actually be more successful teachers than your so-called qualified teachers, OP.

Your teaching degree has never been proven to be all that impressive if you look at student outcome of homeschooled students.

Why is that, OP?

??? The vast majority of homeschool children dramatically underperform well-educated students from schools.

[Anonymous]

I still think a far better solution is hiring teachers from other countries, helping them with housing and any professional development to help with cultural adjustment issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still think a far better solution is hiring teachers from other countries, helping them with housing and any professional development to help with cultural adjustment issues.

Wow. Just wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still think a far better solution is hiring teachers from other countries, helping them with housing and any professional development to help with cultural adjustment issues.

Yes, good idea. Start that program then come back and let us know how it goes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still think a far better solution is hiring teachers from other countries, helping them with housing and any professional development to help with cultural adjustment issues.

So basically you want indentured servitude. Thanks for at least being honest, even if you are a monster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still think a far better solution is hiring teachers from other countries, helping them with housing and any professional development to help with cultural adjustment issues.

So basically you want indentured servitude. Thanks for at least being honest, even if you are a monster.

What an ignorant reply. How is that indentured servitude?? People would come here on their own accord/choice, with a contract to earn a paycheck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still think a far better solution is hiring teachers from other countries, helping them with housing and any professional development to help with cultural adjustment issues.

So basically you want indentured servitude. Thanks for at least being honest, even if you are a monster.

What an ignorant reply. How is that indentured servitude?? People would come here on their own accord/choice, with a contract to earn a paycheck.

I’m not the previous poster, but what it sounds like to me is that you would rather find people in other countries that would be willing to accept what we are currently paying teachers now, instead of raising teacher pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still think a far better solution is hiring teachers from other countries, helping them with housing and any professional development to help with cultural adjustment issues.

So basically you want indentured servitude. Thanks for at least being honest, even if you are a monster.

What an ignorant reply. How is that indentured servitude?? People would come here on their own accord/choice, with a contract to earn a paycheck.

I’m not the previous poster, but what it sounds like to me is that you would rather find people in other countries that would be willing to accept what we are currently paying teachers now, instead of raising teacher pay.

And yikes!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still think a far better solution is hiring teachers from other countries, helping them with housing and any professional development to help with cultural adjustment issues.

They have done this in other cities with great results. It’s far better than hiring unqualified teachers to address the shortage. Many teachers in other countries have been happy to have the chance to come here ( not sure America has the same draw it used to, though).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If he didn’t do that, there would be no teachers. And no, Youngkin didn’t drive any teachers away. Ask any of them that have left the profession. Not one would have Youngkin on their list of reasons.

They would cite things like the hysteria over the phantom menace CRT, book banning and parents who don’t know their place, all of which are closely aligned with the Youngkin education agenda.

+1

Youngkin wants to trash public schools and teachers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Expanding the supply of teachers seems like a good idea. Let’s have more teachers assessed based on their performance in the classroom, and not on their taking education classes in college.

I guess it bothers people who see restricting supply as a means to increase wages and bonuses, or have convinced themselves teaching is a profession similar to law or medicine warranting strict licensing requirements. Most would probably draw a distinction between what should be required to teach social studies and what should be required to perform surgeries.

Let’s do the same for doctors and pilots. Why are certifications needed for any profession.

They did a very similar thing during the pandemic. They allowed nurses whose licenses had lapsed to practice and had medical students help too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem is that it’s not just about content knowledge (although most of these “teaching is so easy!” people aren’t as knowledgeable as they think they are, they’re just arrogant), but about being able to impart that content onto an audience of mixed ability to comprehend said material, nevermind the mixed willingness to be there in the first place. They think just because the Associate Southeast Regional Supervisor for Inside Sales praised them for a presentation they did 6 years ago that they can handle a classroom, when in reality they’d be in tears the first time they missed their lunch break because a fire drill ran long, they had to hold their pee for 7 hours, or the kids started roasting their shoes.

Yes that is the problem and brand new teachers who have all the education and credentials don’t know how to do that either. They don’t do a good job of teaching it during college so they have to learn in the job from experienced teachers (and it’s freaking hard so a lot of them never do it well).

And don’t tell me a new teacher has never cried because they were overwhelmed. That is a normal thing to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still think a far better solution is hiring teachers from other countries, helping them with housing and any professional development to help with cultural adjustment issues.

They have done this in other cities with great results. It’s far better than hiring unqualified teachers to address the shortage. Many teachers in other countries have been happy to have the chance to come here ( not sure America has the same draw it used to, though).

The. Shortage. Is. Caused. In. Part. By. Lower. Wages. And. Other. Stressors.

Bringing in foreigners will not solve the problem you think you have. In fact, it will just start the above cycle over again and (probably) followed by xenophobia towards those people.