Class of 22 admissions report

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Look at Wash U. Jeez.

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So many kids with high grades and test scores that don't quite match up.

When I attended HS (several decades ago) you had to be really, really smart to get straight As if you were taking hard classes. Only a few kids managed it and they got academic scholarships and/or went to excellent colleges.

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Anonymous wrote:Seeing some of those low scores (that were surely not submitted) made me feel better in some ways (but worse in others). But at least proof that not every kid has a 1450+ like is seemingly claimed on here.

It also depends on the high school in question. Some high schools have much higher stats.

It pisses me off scores aren’t required. So many kids with every advantage in the world (not the students that taking away scores was supposed to help) are now clogging admissions and applying places they never would have ever considered if they had to submit that low score.

Yah. Bummer your kid blew all of that time and money prepping and studying while others did something more fun/valuable. Tests are done. No one cares anymore. Your little Prep machine will need to find some other formula.

Smart people don’t need prep. His first mock ACT was a 35.

And all the prep in the world isn’t going to bring a 19 up to a 34. Some kids just aren’t intelligent, but their parents can write their papers and do their projects and harass their teachers for that already easy inflated A.

Not true - all 3 of my kids improved their ACT from a 21 baseline to a 32/33/34 with prep. They are "smart" and have high GPAs.

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Anonymous wrote:Seeing some of those low scores (that were surely not submitted) made me feel better in some ways (but worse in others). But at least proof that not every kid has a 1450+ like is seemingly claimed on here.

It also depends on the high school in question. Some high schools have much higher stats.

It pisses me off scores aren’t required. So many kids with every advantage in the world (not the students that taking away scores was supposed to help) are now clogging admissions and applying places they never would have ever considered if they had to submit that low score.

Yah. Bummer your kid blew all of that time and money prepping and studying while others did something more fun/valuable. Tests are done. No one cares anymore. Your little Prep machine will need to find some other formula.

Smart people don’t need prep. His first mock ACT was a 35.

And all the prep in the world isn’t going to bring a 19 up to a 34. Some kids just aren’t intelligent, but their parents can write their papers and do their projects and harass their teachers for that already easy inflated A.

Not true - all 3 of my kids improved their ACT from a 21 baseline to a 32/33/34 with prep. They are "smart" and have high GPAs.

My kid way back when went from a 1080 to a 1430 on the SAT after a prep course. The jump was so great that they withheld the score at first to make sure there wasn't cheating. So, yea, it happens.

[Anonymous]

Its interesting that WL got kids into Harvard, Yale, Stanford and MIT. But they were shut out of lesser Ivies like Cornell, Brown and totally shut out of Williams, Amherst, Wellesley, Northwestern, and nearly shut out of the Claremont colleges. That might be different applicants applying to those schools , but it might also be legacy preference and different schools valuing different hooks.

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Anonymous wrote:So many kids with high grades and test scores that don't quite match up.

When I attended HS (several decades ago) you had to be really, really smart to get straight As if you were taking hard classes. Only a few kids managed it and they got academic scholarships and/or went to excellent colleges.

Oh please. The pressure on today's kids is much more intense and the courses are harder. You sound like an old fuddy duddy.

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Anonymous wrote:So many kids with high grades and test scores that don't quite match up.

When I attended HS (several decades ago) you had to be really, really smart to get straight As if you were taking hard classes. Only a few kids managed it and they got academic scholarships and/or went to excellent colleges.

What you’re reading as “so many kids” are the same 20-30 kids getting into the top schools. As one poster noted above, top 10% for this school os probably about 4.3.

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Anonymous wrote:Look at Wash U. Jeez.

What about that seems surprising? That’s a kid with a top 5% GPA who probably applied test optional. Seems pretty on par right?

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Anonymous wrote:Someone got into UVA with a 3.1???? That should light this board up like crazy.

The lowest GPA of admitted students to UVA was 3.933 according to the link. Not a 3.1. Learn to read.

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Anonymous wrote:So many kids with high grades and test scores that don't quite match up.

When I attended HS (several decades ago) you had to be really, really smart to get straight As if you were taking hard classes. Only a few kids managed it and they got academic scholarships and/or went to excellent colleges.

What you’re reading as “so many kids” are the same 20-30 kids getting into the top schools. As one poster noted above, top 10% for this school os probably about 4.3.

pp here- thanks, got it.

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Anonymous wrote:Seeing some of those low scores (that were surely not submitted) made me feel better in some ways (but worse in others). But at least proof that not every kid has a 1450+ like is seemingly claimed on here.

It also depends on the high school in question. Some high schools have much higher stats.

It pisses me off scores aren’t required. So many kids with every advantage in the world (not the students that taking away scores was supposed to help) are now clogging admissions and applying places they never would have ever considered if they had to submit that low score.

Yah. Bummer your kid blew all of that time and money prepping and studying while others did something more fun/valuable. Tests are done. No one cares anymore. Your little Prep machine will need to find some other formula.

Smart people don’t need prep. His first mock ACT was a 35.

The SAT and ACT are NOT intelligences tests. Your kid is obviously very smart, but I bet you're UMC and that has a big impact on scores. Kids who are just as naturally smart as your kid but raised in a moderate or lower middle class home, attend a non-rigorous school, have non-English speaking parents, etc. will score lower.

What I've seen is in schools in wealthy areas the URMs come from an identical background, some even wealthier than many of the non-represented families. Their kids greatly benefit from this and will gain admission with lower scores/gpa. It is really frustrating for kids that worked right alongside these peers their entire childhood to see kids with at times a full point lower GPA and lower scores gain admission.

It's just the way it is. It would be admirable if the system worked and benefited those that really were at risk and disadvantaged, but it doesn't. Those kids are in areas where people aren't even applying to college, much less top colleges. Then, you have the issue if these kids get in they are not prepared at all for the rigors of the university because of their dismal public schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone got into UVA with a 3.1???? That should light this board up like crazy.

The lowest GPA of admitted students to UVA was 3.933 according to the link. Not a 3.1. Learn to read.

My kids went through public APS. They literally did nothing and received all As. It was a joke. There is serious grade inflation. However, I hear UVA has the same so they might be okay. lol

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Anonymous wrote:Seeing some of those low scores (that were surely not submitted) made me feel better in some ways (but worse in others). But at least proof that not every kid has a 1450+ like is seemingly claimed on here.

It also depends on the high school in question. Some high schools have much higher stats.

It pisses me off scores aren’t required. So many kids with every advantage in the world (not the students that taking away scores was supposed to help) are now clogging admissions and applying places they never would have ever considered if they had to submit that low score.

Yah. Bummer your kid blew all of that time and money prepping and studying while others did something more fun/valuable. Tests are done. No one cares anymore. Your little Prep machine will need to find some other formula.

Smart people don’t need prep. His first mock ACT was a 35.

The SAT and ACT are NOT intelligences tests. Your kid is obviously very smart, but I bet you're UMC and that has a big impact on scores. Kids who are just as naturally smart as your kid but raised in a moderate or lower middle class home, attend a non-rigorous school, have non-English speaking parents, etc. will score lower.

What I've seen is in schools in wealthy areas the URMs come from an identical background, some even wealthier than many of the non-represented families. Their kids greatly benefit from this and will gain admission with lower scores/gpa. It is really frustrating for kids that worked right alongside these peers their entire childhood to see kids with at times a full point lower GPA and lower scores gain admission.

It's just the way it is. It would be admirable if the system worked and benefited those that really were at risk and disadvantaged, but it doesn't. Those kids are in areas where people aren't even applying to college, much less top colleges. Then, you have the issue if these kids get in they are not prepared at all for the rigors of the university because of their dismal public schools.

Well, I don't know where you've "seen" but by and large what you've described isn't the case. Certainly not at this high school, where it is definitely not the case that the URMs here come from "identical" backgrounds as the white kids. The white kids here are definitely wealthier on average.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone got into UVA with a 3.1???? That should light this board up like crazy.

The lowest GPA of admitted students to UVA was 3.933 according to the link. Not a 3.1. Learn to read.

My kids went through public APS. They literally did nothing and received all As. It was a joke. There is serious grade inflation. However, I hear UVA has the same so they might be okay. lol

Were your kids admitted to UVA?

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Anonymous wrote:Someone got into UVA with a 3.1???? That should light this board up like crazy.

The lowest GPA of admitted students to UVA was 3.933 according to the link. Not a 3.1. Learn to read.

My kids went through public APS. They literally did nothing and received all As. It was a joke. There is serious grade inflation. However, I hear UVA has the same so they might be okay. lol

My WL kid works her tail off for her As in the full IB program. Not all kids can get those results by doing nothing. I imagine your kids coasters into a top university.