Teacher resignation in Arlington Schools very high this year?

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Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.


Schools were safe. It was shown in Europe in the spring 2020, and throughout the US (including in Arlington in private schools in Fall 2020). Many APS teachers did not care at all.

There was no disregard for the safety of our teachers, only a blatant disregard for the safety and development of students by those teachers who refused to work. So when I hear APS teachers complaining about pay, I have 0 sympathy. Private school teachers in this area deserve a raise though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


This is balanced and well said. I will just add that with suicide and depression among kids at alarming levels, I don't understand the vilification of desperate parents. It's pretty clear that the long school closures played a role in the mental health issues. Why deny this and attack the parents?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


This is balanced and well said. I will just add that with suicide and depression among kids at alarming levels, I don't understand the vilification of desperate parents. It's pretty clear that the long school closures played a role in the mental health issues. Why deny this and attack the parents?


Let's put the shoe back on the correct foot: why didn't you do a better job managing your kid's mental health issues? Your kid's mental health problems are your problem, not for a bunch of teachers. If you saw that your kid was struggling mentally, then you had a responsibility to get him or her into therapy. School is not therapy, school is for education. Your failure to do your job as a parent is not a teacher's responsibility. I am so sick of people like you refusing to take ownership of problems you let fester. You didn't do your job as a parent. Take your own blame.
-Signed, A Parent
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


This is balanced and well said. I will just add that with suicide and depression among kids at alarming levels, I don't understand the vilification of desperate parents. It's pretty clear that the long school closures played a role in the mental health issues. Why deny this and attack the parents?


The schools are now responsible for mental health, obesity, teaching manners. Everything. Don’t you think we’re asking too much? The parents have to have SOME responsibility.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


This is balanced and well said. I will just add that with suicide and depression among kids at alarming levels, I don't understand the vilification of desperate parents. It's pretty clear that the long school closures played a role in the mental health issues. Why deny this and attack the parents?


The schools are now responsible for mental health, obesity, teaching manners. Everything. Don’t you think we’re asking too much? The parents have to have SOME responsibility.

Would you hold schools responsible for anything? A lot of the complaints from teachers this year included things like a 2nd grade class that didn't know how to function in a classroom. Why do you think that is? Could it have anything to do with schools closing down for 1.5 years?

Other complaints are kids not being properly socialized or not at grade level. It's crazy to me teachers would point to parents for these issues. This is all stuff that was typcially done by schools. It's no surprise kids are playing catch up on academics or behavior when schools were closed for so long.

Of course if the complaint is about Syphax, I'll join teachers there. They were awful all pandemic and I agree.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


[
choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


This is balanced and well said. I will just add that with suicide and depression among kids at alarming levels, I don't understand the vilification of desperate parents. It's pretty clear that the long school closures played a role in the mental health issues. Why deny this and attack the parents?


The schools are now responsible for mental health, obesity, teaching manners. Everything. Don’t you think we’re asking too much? The parents have to have SOME responsibility.

Would you hold schools responsible for anything? A lot of the complaints from teachers this year included things like a 2nd grade class that didn't know how to function in a classroom. Why do you think that is? Could it have anything to do with schools closing down for 1.5 years?

Other complaints are kids not being properly socialized or not at grade level. It's crazy to me teachers would point to parents for these issues. This is all stuff that was typcially done by schools. It's no surprise kids are playing catch up on academics or behavior when schools were closed for so long.

Of course if the complaint is about Syphax, I'll join teachers there. They were awful all pandemic and I agree.


Silly me. I thought schools were responsible for education.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.


+1

It was truly disturbing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


[
choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.

As a counterpoint, there were some teachers in APS and teacher who didnt do their job during the pandemic. The parent angst isn't entirely misplaced. Two examples:

My daughter's teacher refused to return to the classroom in Spring 2021 after she was fully vaccinated. My daughter would go in 2 days a week for hybrid and be taught by iPad because her teacher "felt unsafe." Basically she didn't believe that the vaccine worked. For a little kid who couldn't learn virtually, it was a super tough blow not to get in person instruction even after APS "reopened."

We also had issues during virtual. There would be a full class of 7 yos on Teams and the specials teacher literally wouldn't sign in some days. She would "forget' she had class. It happened many times over the year and was never addressed by the administration despite complaints.

I could go on with more examples of significant issues, but will stop.

Did some teachers work really hard and do their best? Yes, absolutely. Did some take advantage of the lack of supervision and chaos? Yes. We're some irrational about returning to the classroom to the detriment of students? Yes.

Were there issues with shitty parents? Yes, but there were also issues with shitty teachers. If you were lucky enough not to run into issues, then great for you. For those who had issues, they were likely never addressed by the administration and those parents are still likely peeved. Myself included. I lost a lot of faith in APS.


This is balanced and well said. I will just add that with suicide and depression among kids at alarming levels, I don't understand the vilification of desperate parents. It's pretty clear that the long school closures played a role in the mental health issues. Why deny this and attack the parents?


The schools are now responsible for mental health, obesity, teaching manners. Everything. Don’t you think we’re asking too much? The parents have to have SOME responsibility.

Would you hold schools responsible for anything? A lot of the complaints from teachers this year included things like a 2nd grade class that didn't know how to function in a classroom. Why do you think that is? Could it have anything to do with schools closing down for 1.5 years?

Other complaints are kids not being properly socialized or not at grade level. It's crazy to me teachers would point to parents for these issues. This is all stuff that was typcially done by schools. It's no surprise kids are playing catch up on academics or behavior when schools were closed for so long.

Of course if the complaint is about Syphax, I'll join teachers there. They were awful all pandemic and I agree.


Silly me. I thought schools were responsible for education.

How to behave in a classroom is part of education. Heck, it's about half the point of kindergarten.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.


Schools were safe. It was shown in Europe in the spring 2020, and throughout the US (including in Arlington in private schools in Fall 2020). Many APS teachers did not care at all.

There was no disregard for the safety of our teachers, only a blatant disregard for the safety and development of students by those teachers who refused to work. So when I hear APS teachers complaining about pay, I have 0 sympathy. Private school teachers in this area deserve a raise though.


Lies. We didn't have substantial studies in spring of 2020. Or the summer. Or the fall.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Have you been living in a cave? In a news blackout?

There is a national teacher shortage CRISIS. Right now, Fairfax County has about 850 vacancies. Compare that to a year ago this time when they had 550. And four years ago, there were 350 vacancies at this time.

There is not one single solution. But parents have to get engaged and demand higher pay and more respect. Colleges are seeing fewer and fewer students enter teacher prep programs. We need to raise the status of being a teacher.

Teachers AND parents are fed up with the unions. Duh.


VA teachers aren’t unionized.


Huh. What about the AEA and how the state chapter had to take over Arlington’s version because of financial misadventure.


My understanding was that VA teachers had "work associations" that were affiliated with unions, but did not have the right to collective bargaining.

However I am reading now that some school districts have agreed to collective bargaining?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


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choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.


Schools were safe. It was shown in Europe in the spring 2020, and throughout the US (including in Arlington in private schools in Fall 2020). Many APS teachers did not care at all.

There was no disregard for the safety of our teachers, only a blatant disregard for the safety and development of students by those teachers who refused to work. So when I hear APS teachers complaining about pay, I have 0 sympathy. Private school teachers in this area deserve a raise though.


Lies. We didn't have substantial studies in spring of 2020. Or the summer. Or the fall.
Red state schools opened in early August 2020. By October 2020 it was pretty clear that US schools weren't a significant source of transmission. This only got clearer as time went on.
Anonymous
All of these angry posts are the same guy. I feel a little sorry for him. This isn’t healthy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Remember when a majority of teachers refused to go to work in the fall 2020?

These are not model employees. They've shown 0 regrets about the damage they caused kids, especially the most disadvantaged.

I wish all who refused to work leave and don't let the door hit them on the way out. They've done enough damage to our public school system and should retire or find a new career.


[
choose a number between 1 and 6


Parent here. This comic is SO accurate. Parents, seriously, this is how you came off. So many parents had such a disturbing response during the crisis and an absolute disregard for the safety of our teachers.


Schools were safe. It was shown in Europe in the spring 2020, and throughout the US (including in Arlington in private schools in Fall 2020). Many APS teachers did not care at all.

There was no disregard for the safety of our teachers, only a blatant disregard for the safety and development of students by those teachers who refused to work. So when I hear APS teachers complaining about pay, I have 0 sympathy. Private school teachers in this area deserve a raise though.


Lies. We didn't have substantial studies in spring of 2020. Or the summer. Or the fall.
Red state schools opened in early August 2020. By October 2020 it was pretty clear that US schools weren't a significant source of transmission. This only got clearer as time went on.


PP said "spring 2020".

We definitely knew a lot more heading into winter 2020. The first batch of kids in APS went back in person in November 2020.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:All of these angry posts are the same guy. I feel a little sorry for him. This isn’t healthy.


I wonder if it is one of the angry dad bros who threw temper tantrums at the board meetings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All of these angry posts are the same guy. I feel a little sorry for him. This isn’t healthy.


I wonder if it is one of the angry dad bros who threw temper tantrums at the board meetings.


Yea. Pretty sure it is.
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