Columbia U. Won’t Submit Data to ‘U.S. News’ Rankings After Professor Alleged False Information

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ivy worship on this site is funny. Finally an elite school punished for misdeeds.

University of Chicago is the WORST offender at manipulating their stats.

When I applied, U of C was struggling to fill its classes. The place gamed the system and is now a top-ranked school, with absolutely no change in anything except a huge marketing plan that includes inviting just about anyone to apply. It's a sick organization, even if it's a great school.

lol

[Anonymous]

US news is nonsense. UNC went up in rankings after it got caught giving diplomas to illiterates for 2 decades. There is obvious cheating and probably bribery going on. It wouldn’t even be illegal to bribe so why wouldn’t it happen?

That’s why the world rankings are probably best. They appear dispassionate and more results oriented.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Rankings are just one of the references and factors to consider especially when coming up with an initial list.
It's helpful for the purpose.

Ranking obsessed people want to see it go away.

+1. I’m a Columbia alum and I’m not happy they submitted crappy data but I do think they’re doing the right thing to take some time and figure out what certain metrics do mean and what they can reasonably report rather than sweeping it under the rug. I’m proud the Columbia professor blew the whistle. It takes some balls to bite then hand that feeds you, even if you’re tenured.

[Anonymous]

"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."

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I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.

Not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I would love to see the rankings go away

+ a billion

eff the rankings!!!!

Says someone from a no name school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."

Womp womp womp

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I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.

Not.

probably not for next year but if it continues

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."

Womp womp womp

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768

I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.

Not.

probably not for next year but if it continues

It's an Ivy league school in NYC with great grad schools. They'll be fine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."

Womp womp womp

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768

I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.

Not.

probably not for next year but if it continues

It's an Ivy league school in NYC with great grad schools. They'll be fine

Not what the school thinks, thats why they cheated

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."

Womp womp womp

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768

I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.

Not.

Maybe not. But their reputation as an institution will

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."

Womp womp womp

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768

I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.

Not.

Maybe not. But their reputation as an institution will

Huh whut? Will this hurt them or won't it? My opinion remains that it will not.

There are many other colleges who might be substantively damaged by this, but I do not believe Columbia is among them. I guess we will wait and see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."

Womp womp womp

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768

I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.

Not.

Maybe not. But their reputation as an institution will

Huh whut? Will this hurt them or won't it? My opinion remains that it will not.

There are many other colleges who might be substantively damaged by this, but I do not believe Columbia is among them. I guess we will wait and see.

No need to wait. Columbia will beg to come back in next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"U.S. News said that because Columbia has been unable to provide satisfactory responses to its request, it was moving the university to being "Unranked" in National Universities. The action means Columbia no longer has a numerical rank in the 2022 National Universities, 2022 Best Value Schools, and 2022 Top Performers on Social Mobility because those rankings used data from the university’s submission."

Womp womp womp

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/07/07/the-fallout-continues-us-news-pulls-columbia-university-from-its-2022-rankings/?sh=38f3f0f4a768

I am sure applications will drop precipitously and prestige will plummet.

Not.

Maybe not. But their reputation as an institution will

Huh whut? Will this hurt them or won't it? My opinion remains that it will not.

There are many other colleges who might be substantively damaged by this, but I do not believe Columbia is among them. I guess we will wait and see.

No need to wait. Columbia will beg to come back in next year.

Wouldn't "next year" involve waiting?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rankings are just one of the references and factors to consider especially when coming up with an initial list.
It's helpful for the purpose.

Ranking obsessed people want to see it go away.

+1. I’m a Columbia alum and I’m not happy they submitted crappy data but I do think they’re doing the right thing to take some time and figure out what certain metrics do mean and what they can reasonably report rather than sweeping it under the rug. I’m proud the Columbia professor blew the whistle. It takes some balls to bite then hand that feeds you, even if you’re tenured.

Columbia is not not taking time to think about anything. Columbia refused to submit the more detailed data that USNWR wanted because it would show that the data they submitted earlier was fraudulent. As a result, USNWR kicked Columbia out of the rankings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rankings are just one of the references and factors to consider especially when coming up with an initial list.
It's helpful for the purpose.

Ranking obsessed people want to see it go away.

+1. I’m a Columbia alum and I’m not happy they submitted crappy data but I do think they’re doing the right thing to take some time and figure out what certain metrics do mean and what they can reasonably report rather than sweeping it under the rug. I’m proud the Columbia professor blew the whistle. It takes some balls to bite then hand that feeds you, even if you’re tenured.

Columbia is not not taking time to think about anything. Columbia refused to submit the more detailed data that USNWR wanted because it would show that the data they submitted earlier was fraudulent. As a result, USNWR kicked Columbia out of the rankings.

Does it have to do with General Studies students or is it some other things?