Jesus had 2 dads?

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Anonymous wrote:I mean he was killed in his 30s for inciting violence against the government but I guess for some value of fine…

No, it was for blasphemy. The Romans didn’t have an issue with him but they executed him to appease the locals. Also the Maccabean War was still a recent memory.

I don't think it was for blasphemy. It was for making trouble at the temple. See, e..g.:


Mark 11:15-19

15 On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves,
16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts.
17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’ ? But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’ ”
18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him, because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.
19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples went out of the city.

I think it is interesting that Mohammed was run out of Mecca for largely the same reason, upsetting the commercial interests with his views of religion.

The Romans were not concerned with quibbles at the temple, none of that mattered to them.

The Romans were, in fact, concerned with trouble makers. And Jesus was deemed a trouble maker obviously by those in the temple he upset.

Pilate was content to flog Jesus and send him on his way. Not sure which historical references you are using.

Pilate ordered Jesus's execution. Not sure what historical references you are using.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean he was killed in his 30s for inciting violence against the government but I guess for some value of fine…

No, it was for blasphemy. The Romans didn’t have an issue with him but they executed him to appease the locals. Also the Maccabean War was still a recent memory.

I don't think it was for blasphemy. It was for making trouble at the temple. See, e..g.:


Mark 11:15-19

15 On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves,
16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts.
17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’ ? But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’ ”
18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him, because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.
19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples went out of the city.

I think it is interesting that Mohammed was run out of Mecca for largely the same reason, upsetting the commercial interests with his views of religion.

The Romans were not concerned with quibbles at the temple, none of that mattered to them.

The Romans were, in fact, concerned with trouble makers. And Jesus was deemed a trouble maker obviously by those in the temple he upset.

Pilate was content to flog Jesus and send him on his way. Not sure which historical references you are using.

Pilate ordered Jesus's execution. Not sure what historical references you are using.

Not pp, but I think I know the biblical passages they’re referencing. All four gospels reference the meeting of Jesus and Pilate. While the different accounts vary in which details are included, they are all very clear that Pilate tried to use the tradition of releasing a prisoner at Passover as an excuse to release Jesus, but he was pressured into crucifying him and releasing another. Here are the references for the account from the four gospels:

Matthew 27:11-26
Mark 15:1-15
Luke 23:1-25
John 18:28-19:16

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Anonymous wrote:I mean he was killed in his 30s for inciting violence against the government but I guess for some value of fine…

No, it was for blasphemy. The Romans didn’t have an issue with him but they executed him to appease the locals. Also the Maccabean War was still a recent memory.

I don't think it was for blasphemy. It was for making trouble at the temple. See, e..g.:


Mark 11:15-19

15 On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves,
16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts.
17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’ ? But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’ ”
18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him, because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.
19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples went out of the city.

I think it is interesting that Mohammed was run out of Mecca for largely the same reason, upsetting the commercial interests with his views of religion.

The Romans were not concerned with quibbles at the temple, none of that mattered to them.

The Romans were, in fact, concerned with trouble makers. And Jesus was deemed a trouble maker obviously by those in the temple he upset.

Pilate was content to flog Jesus and send him on his way. Not sure which historical references you are using.

Pilate ordered Jesus's execution. Not sure what historical references you are using.

Not pp, but I think I know the biblical passages they’re referencing. All four gospels reference the meeting of Jesus and Pilate. While the different accounts vary in which details are included, they are all very clear that Pilate tried to use the tradition of releasing a prisoner at Passover as an excuse to release Jesus, but he was pressured into crucifying him and releasing another. Here are the references for the account from the four gospels:

Matthew 27:11-26
Mark 15:1-15
Luke 23:1-25
John 18:28-19:16

Yes, but what part of "Pilate ordered Jesus's execution" do you not understand? He was the law in Palestine. It's true he wanted to keep the peace, that was the Roman's main concern, so ordering the execution was the easy way out. I agree he was ambivalent about it.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean he was killed in his 30s for inciting violence against the government but I guess for some value of fine…

No, it was for blasphemy. The Romans didn’t have an issue with him but they executed him to appease the locals. Also the Maccabean War was still a recent memory.

I don't think it was for blasphemy. It was for making trouble at the temple. See, e..g.:


Mark 11:15-19

15 On reaching Jerusalem, Jesus entered the temple courts and began driving out those who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves,
16 and would not allow anyone to carry merchandise through the temple courts.
17 And as he taught them, he said, “Is it not written: ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all nations’ ? But you have made it ‘a den of robbers.’ ”
18 The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him, because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.
19 When evening came, Jesus and his disciples went out of the city.

I think it is interesting that Mohammed was run out of Mecca for largely the same reason, upsetting the commercial interests with his views of religion.

The Romans were not concerned with quibbles at the temple, none of that mattered to them.

The Romans were, in fact, concerned with trouble makers. And Jesus was deemed a trouble maker obviously by those in the temple he upset.

Pilate was content to flog Jesus and send him on his way. Not sure which historical references you are using.

Pilate ordered Jesus's execution. Not sure what historical references you are using.

Not pp, but I think I know the biblical passages they’re referencing. All four gospels reference the meeting of Jesus and Pilate. While the different accounts vary in which details are included, they are all very clear that Pilate tried to use the tradition of releasing a prisoner at Passover as an excuse to release Jesus, but he was pressured into crucifying him and releasing another. Here are the references for the account from the four gospels:

Matthew 27:11-26
Mark 15:1-15
Luke 23:1-25
John 18:28-19:16

Yes, but what part of "Pilate ordered Jesus's execution" do you not understand? He was the law in Palestine. It's true he wanted to keep the peace, that was the Roman's main concern, so ordering the execution was the easy way out. I agree he was ambivalent about it.

My mistake, he was the law in Judaea, where Jerusalem is located, not Palestine.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s making reference to God and Joseph. And fyi…..Mary wasn’t a virgin in the sense we use that word today. I’m those days the word virgin meant young unmarried woman. It’s takes a sperm and an egg to make a baby.

Your entire religion says otherwise, lady.

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Anonymous wrote:I saw this in one of those signs that have different ‘words of wisdom’ each week.

It said ‘’Jesus had two dads and he turned out fine’’.

I’m not Christian but know the stories. I’m not getting the two dads bit though. The ‘father’ and the ‘holy spirit’? Mary was a virgin so her husband, Joseph, wasn’t really the dad. Legal dad maybe. So the it’s the Christian God and Joseph?

In other words, a lame attempt to appear “inclusive”.

This. And extremely offensive and sacrilegious, IMO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Christians believe Jesus is God.
Other religions, like Islam, see Jesus as a fully human prophet, which seems to be your mindset, PP.

Not true. They believe he was made by God in a way like Adam, except Mary was his mother. Thus, Quran calls him "son of Mary."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Christians believe Jesus is God.
Other religions, like Islam, see Jesus as a fully human prophet, which seems to be your mindset, PP.

Not true. They believe he was made by God in a way like Adam, except Mary was his mother. Thus, Quran calls him "son of Mary."

And, I'm Christian and don't believe Jesus *is* God. He was with God before coming, and he said God is his father.