New free shuttle service for students in Wards 7 & 8

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Anonymous wrote:I feel conflicted about this. I guess it boils down to whether you think school choice is good or whether it hurt neighborhood schools. The easier it is to go to a "better" school across town the less incentive their is to invest in your community. I know I wouldn't send my kids to many of the schools in Wards 7 & 8 so I don't blame those families for looking for other options. But how will those schools improve and attract more families if everyone bails. Its complicated.

I love this white savior here.

It’s not just that black people and brown people are supposed to survive in a climate of racial prejudice, it’s also our job to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and improve failing schools as well.

The best elementary school in DC is Janney, in Ward 3. Ever given any thought as to why? Parental involvement. Parental involvement with the school, with DCPS, with their community AND WITH THEIR CHILDREN. Doesn't matter who you are, parental involvement - on multiple levels - is required for a school to be successful. You need a sizeable group of parents prioritizing education in their family and their community in order to make a school successful. Janney hasn't always been high performing and it hasn't always been crowded. Same with Deal and Wilson, which, not surprisingly, are the middle and high schools for Janney kids. Again, none of those 3 schools would be worth a damn without the parents involved in that school. That's what the PP is talking about. And, frankly, any parent in Ward 3 would understand exactly what PP was getting at with her comment. Parents investing in their neighborhood schools, community and their kids is the (not so) secret sauce. Not sure what racial prejudice has to do with anything and, in particular, why it would prevent you from reading to your children from the day they are born, filling your house with books, never buying them an electronic device, and taking them to the library and free Smithsonian museums whenever you have time to spend together.

Wow. Fwiw if kids had even a small chance of turning into this kind of racist monster, Janney sucks. Also I find Janney to be unimpressive but I guess I have high standards.

How do you see this as a racial issue? Just curious.

Because this poster is stating that low achievement schools, largely in black areas of the city, are low achieving due to poor parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds promising. Hopefully, it can be expanded to drop off students EOTR to schools in other wards.

https://www.dcschoolconnect.com/

Question - is this supporting public schools, or not supporting public schools? Like, if you say the above are you infavor or charters and voucher access as well? Just curious, though I think overall any trasnportation linking wards is a good.

Charter schools are public schools. Why would the city not support them?

Many people support public and oppose charters (both public). That's fact. And their argument is that the focus should be on "strengthening public schools" (not charters). They also tout the neighborhood connections of pubic schools versus the geographic dynamism of charters in making their arguments. So to provide shuttles to move children away from their neighborhood public school.would seem to undermine them also.

That is such a patronizing argument. No one ever judges the mom in Chevy chase from driving across the park and attending an immersion charter. There are no patronizing people saying “she needs to support her community”. No, somehow people who live in communities with poor schools have an additional obligation to support their local schools and “create neighborhood connections”.

NP but I judge her. She already has access to good schools. Now she is creating traffic and taking a charter spot from a kid who doesn’t have as many options for good IB schools.

I judge you for your response. By your definition the only people who should ethically go to charter schools are those who live nearby. But aren’t charter schools designed to be different? What if you’re a bilingual family and you want to keep that part of your culture. Why isn’t it okay for people further afield to take advantage of charter spots?

Yeah, I love the idea that ultimately charters are neighborhood schools and should only be used by people nearby.

Who has said that? There is a large group of people (and politicians) who are "pro" pubic schools and "against" public charters. Why the Biden administration is undermining the right now. Public charters absolutely stand for mobility and choice.

Many parents at our charter (LAMB PCS) constantly undermine those who drive a long distance to get to lamb. Parents literally attack people via email or on parentsquare for asking for a bus. Parents who drive to the school aren’t allowed to park legally in the neighborhood due to some dubious deal struck by the school with the neighborhood. Just as a reminder, the school moved locations forcing many families to leave the only bilingual montessori school in the city. A bus from the metro or the bus from the old location (which was repeatedly promised then canceled) would have allowed so many families a needed dci path (which is accessible from the metro). Really truly gross how some families treat lamb as a “neighborhood school”. Check the archives here even.

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Anonymous wrote:This sounds promising. Hopefully, it can be expanded to drop off students EOTR to schools in other wards.

https://www.dcschoolconnect.com/

Question - is this supporting public schools, or not supporting public schools? Like, if you say the above are you infavor or charters and voucher access as well? Just curious, though I think overall any trasnportation linking wards is a good.

Charter schools are public schools. Why would the city not support them?

Many people support public and oppose charters (both public). That's fact. And their argument is that the focus should be on "strengthening public schools" (not charters). They also tout the neighborhood connections of pubic schools versus the geographic dynamism of charters in making their arguments. So to provide shuttles to move children away from their neighborhood public school.would seem to undermine them also.

That is such a patronizing argument. No one ever judges the mom in Chevy chase from driving across the park and attending an immersion charter. There are no patronizing people saying “she needs to support her community”. No, somehow people who live in communities with poor schools have an additional obligation to support their local schools and “create neighborhood connections”.

NP but I judge her. She already has access to good schools. Now she is creating traffic and taking a charter spot from a kid who doesn’t have as many options for good IB schools.

I judge you for your response. By your definition the only people who should ethically go to charter schools are those who live nearby. But aren’t charter schools designed to be different? What if you’re a bilingual family and you want to keep that part of your culture. Why isn’t it okay for people further afield to take advantage of charter spots?

Yeah, I love the idea that ultimately charters are neighborhood schools and should only be used by people nearby.

Who has said that? There is a large group of people (and politicians) who are "pro" pubic schools and "against" public charters. Why the Biden administration is undermining the right now. Public charters absolutely stand for mobility and choice.

Many parents at our charter (LAMB PCS) constantly undermine those who drive a long distance to get to lamb. Parents literally attack people via email or on parentsquare for asking for a bus. Parents who drive to the school aren’t allowed to park legally in the neighborhood due to some dubious deal struck by the school with the neighborhood. Just as a reminder, the school moved locations forcing many families to leave the only bilingual montessori school in the city. A bus from the metro or the bus from the old location (which was repeatedly promised then canceled) would have allowed so many families a needed dci path (which is accessible from the metro). Really truly gross how some families treat lamb as a “neighborhood school”. Check the archives here even.

Similar situation is happening at Mundo Verde with the exception that other parents aren’t trying to destroy prospects for a bus.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel conflicted about this. I guess it boils down to whether you think school choice is good or whether it hurt neighborhood schools. The easier it is to go to a "better" school across town the less incentive their is to invest in your community. I know I wouldn't send my kids to many of the schools in Wards 7 & 8 so I don't blame those families for looking for other options. But how will those schools improve and attract more families if everyone bails. Its complicated.

I love this white savior here.

It’s not just that black people and brown people are supposed to survive in a climate of racial prejudice, it’s also our job to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and improve failing schools as well.

The best elementary school in DC is Janney, in Ward 3. Ever given any thought as to why? Parental involvement. Parental involvement with the school, with DCPS, with their community AND WITH THEIR CHILDREN. Doesn't matter who you are, parental involvement - on multiple levels - is required for a school to be successful. You need a sizeable group of parents prioritizing education in their family and their community in order to make a school successful. Janney hasn't always been high performing and it hasn't always been crowded. Same with Deal and Wilson, which, not surprisingly, are the middle and high schools for Janney kids. Again, none of those 3 schools would be worth a damn without the parents involved in that school. That's what the PP is talking about. And, frankly, any parent in Ward 3 would understand exactly what PP was getting at with her comment. Parents investing in their neighborhood schools, community and their kids is the (not so) secret sauce. Not sure what racial prejudice has to do with anything and, in particular, why it would prevent you from reading to your children from the day they are born, filling your house with books, never buying them an electronic device, and taking them to the library and free Smithsonian museums whenever you have time to spend together.

Wow. Fwiw if kids had even a small chance of turning into this kind of racist monster, Janney sucks. Also I find Janney to be unimpressive but I guess I have high standards.

How do you see this as a racial issue? Just curious.

Because this poster is stating that low achievement schools, largely in black areas of the city, are low achieving due to poor parenting.

Your argument appears to be that any criticism of an area that is largely Black is racist. Is that correct? If so, I'm afraid I don't see the connection. If we were to follow your logic then it would never be possible to criticize people or neighborhoods that are Black. Surely that's not what you are suggesting are you? Black people and Black communities are humans, too. Yes, institutional racism is a part of the Black experience in this country but surely you aren't suggesting that they are incapable of making bad decisions for reasons unrelated to their race?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel conflicted about this. I guess it boils down to whether you think school choice is good or whether it hurt neighborhood schools. The easier it is to go to a "better" school across town the less incentive their is to invest in your community. I know I wouldn't send my kids to many of the schools in Wards 7 & 8 so I don't blame those families for looking for other options. But how will those schools improve and attract more families if everyone bails. Its complicated.

I love this white savior here.

It’s not just that black people and brown people are supposed to survive in a climate of racial prejudice, it’s also our job to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and improve failing schools as well.

The best elementary school in DC is Janney, in Ward 3. Ever given any thought as to why? Parental involvement. Parental involvement with the school, with DCPS, with their community AND WITH THEIR CHILDREN. Doesn't matter who you are, parental involvement - on multiple levels - is required for a school to be successful. You need a sizeable group of parents prioritizing education in their family and their community in order to make a school successful. Janney hasn't always been high performing and it hasn't always been crowded. Same with Deal and Wilson, which, not surprisingly, are the middle and high schools for Janney kids. Again, none of those 3 schools would be worth a damn without the parents involved in that school. That's what the PP is talking about. And, frankly, any parent in Ward 3 would understand exactly what PP was getting at with her comment. Parents investing in their neighborhood schools, community and their kids is the (not so) secret sauce. Not sure what racial prejudice has to do with anything and, in particular, why it would prevent you from reading to your children from the day they are born, filling your house with books, never buying them an electronic device, and taking them to the library and free Smithsonian museums whenever you have time to spend together.

Wow. Fwiw if kids had even a small chance of turning into this kind of racist monster, Janney sucks. Also I find Janney to be unimpressive but I guess I have high standards.

How do you see this as a racial issue? Just curious.

Because this poster is stating that low achievement schools, largely in black areas of the city, are low achieving due to poor parenting.

Your argument appears to be that any criticism of an area that is largely Black is racist. Is that correct? If so, I'm afraid I don't see the connection. If we were to follow your logic then it would never be possible to criticize people or neighborhoods that are Black. Surely that's not what you are suggesting are you? Black people and Black communities are humans, too. Yes, institutional racism is a part of the Black experience in this country but surely you aren't suggesting that they are incapable of making bad decisions for reasons unrelated to their race?

DP but that's not the argument being made at all. It's clearly the argument you'd love to respond to, but fourteen leading questions don't make it so.

OP stated that Janney is the best school in the city (citation needed) and that the reason it is the best has nothing to do with parental wealth, only parental involvement (again, uncited assertion). Then she extrapolated from her baseless assertions that parents at other, presumably "bad" schools in the city are not involved parents, don't read to their kids, and use electronics to ignore them.

Then she said "why is everyone saying parental involvement doesn't matter????" This is not a good faith argument, and never was. This is an idiot (based on grammar and spelling at least) who thinks her husband's salary makes her a better parent than people who live in bounds for different schools. It would be embarrassing if she could even see what she was saying, but she only wants to hear herself talk, not listen.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel conflicted about this. I guess it boils down to whether you think school choice is good or whether it hurt neighborhood schools. The easier it is to go to a "better" school across town the less incentive their is to invest in your community. I know I wouldn't send my kids to many of the schools in Wards 7 & 8 so I don't blame those families for looking for other options. But how will those schools improve and attract more families if everyone bails. Its complicated.

I love this white savior here.

It’s not just that black people and brown people are supposed to survive in a climate of racial prejudice, it’s also our job to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and improve failing schools as well.

The best elementary school in DC is Janney, in Ward 3. Ever given any thought as to why? Parental involvement. Parental involvement with the school, with DCPS, with their community AND WITH THEIR CHILDREN. Doesn't matter who you are, parental involvement - on multiple levels - is required for a school to be successful. You need a sizeable group of parents prioritizing education in their family and their community in order to make a school successful. Janney hasn't always been high performing and it hasn't always been crowded. Same with Deal and Wilson, which, not surprisingly, are the middle and high schools for Janney kids. Again, none of those 3 schools would be worth a damn without the parents involved in that school. That's what the PP is talking about. And, frankly, any parent in Ward 3 would understand exactly what PP was getting at with her comment. Parents investing in their neighborhood schools, community and their kids is the (not so) secret sauce. Not sure what racial prejudice has to do with anything and, in particular, why it would prevent you from reading to your children from the day they are born, filling your house with books, never buying them an electronic device, and taking them to the library and free Smithsonian museums whenever you have time to spend together.

are you saying that it is good parenting to "never buy your child an electronic device"? do you live in 1994?

PP here. Yes, I am. Electronic devices exist so parents can ignore their children.

Does that include the electronic device you're using to try to condescend to the world at large on DCUM? Because your kids could use a lesson plan for tomorrow. Why are you ignoring them? Do you want to get kicked out of Janney?

Focusing on an arguably inconsequential detail of my larger point, shows you have nothing.

Your larger point is just pontificating online about how awesome it is to be inbounds for the richest elementary in DC and attributing all the benefits of a high SES cohort to the moral fortitude of the parents. It's all nonsense that's been debunked a million times. It's not an argument, it's public masturbation.

IF all it took to make a school successful was money then please explain why all the millions of dollars that are plowed into the underperforming schools every single year doesn't make a difference. Also, are you really arguing that parental involvement doesn't matter?

High SES cohort and per pupil expenditure are not the same thing. Weird that your focus on education didn't result in any understanding of the issues.

Weird that you keep focusing on ridiculously trivial details. I'm fairly certain most heart surgeons and/or nuclear scientists do NOT understand what "SES cohort" means. Guess they are dumb too, huh? Seriously, why can't you just admit that PARENTING MATTERS? IS there something offensive about this statement?

Different poster. You’re equating good parenting with wealth and bad parenting with poverty and being black. So yeah, you sound racist af and offensive to anyone with shred of decency.

Side note, maybe you want to get off your phone and teach your kids how to be decent human beings so they don’t turn into you? Better yet, hire someone else as you don’t seem to have any decency, human kindness, or tolerance.

Sorry but that is YOUR equation. As I mentioned, my single, immigrant mom, working two jobs with zero support, raised us to value education, over all else. We lived in poverty growing up. It is not about money -- unless you are grasping for ways to defend bad parenting (i.e. parents who live in poverty are "too preoccupied" with the dysfunction around them to buy their kids books and provide incentives for finishing homework.) In any event, your approach isn't doing anyone any favors.. You can keep insulting people who speak the truth but it won't change the truth. Keep on throwing money at the problem and all that means is your tax dollars are being wasted.

And how does your single immigrant mom compare to everyone in the community you were raised in? Like your childhood is not the standard otherwise everyone else would do it. Also please don't compare your immigrant mother to native born people who have been living under systemic racism for generations. It's disingeous AF. Apples to Oranges.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel conflicted about this. I guess it boils down to whether you think school choice is good or whether it hurt neighborhood schools. The easier it is to go to a "better" school across town the less incentive their is to invest in your community. I know I wouldn't send my kids to many of the schools in Wards 7 & 8 so I don't blame those families for looking for other options. But how will those schools improve and attract more families if everyone bails. Its complicated.

I love this white savior here.

It’s not just that black people and brown people are supposed to survive in a climate of racial prejudice, it’s also our job to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and improve failing schools as well.

The best elementary school in DC is Janney, in Ward 3. Ever given any thought as to why? Parental involvement. Parental involvement with the school, with DCPS, with their community AND WITH THEIR CHILDREN. Doesn't matter who you are, parental involvement - on multiple levels - is required for a school to be successful. You need a sizeable group of parents prioritizing education in their family and their community in order to make a school successful. Janney hasn't always been high performing and it hasn't always been crowded. Same with Deal and Wilson, which, not surprisingly, are the middle and high schools for Janney kids. Again, none of those 3 schools would be worth a damn without the parents involved in that school. That's what the PP is talking about. And, frankly, any parent in Ward 3 would understand exactly what PP was getting at with her comment. Parents investing in their neighborhood schools, community and their kids is the (not so) secret sauce. Not sure what racial prejudice has to do with anything and, in particular, why it would prevent you from reading to your children from the day they are born, filling your house with books, never buying them an electronic device, and taking them to the library and free Smithsonian museums whenever you have time to spend together.

Wow. Fwiw if kids had even a small chance of turning into this kind of racist monster, Janney sucks. Also I find Janney to be unimpressive but I guess I have high standards.

How do you see this as a racial issue? Just curious.

Because this poster is stating that low achievement schools, largely in black areas of the city, are low achieving due to poor parenting.

Your argument appears to be that any criticism of an area that is largely Black is racist. Is that correct? If so, I'm afraid I don't see the connection. If we were to follow your logic then it would never be possible to criticize people or neighborhoods that are Black. Surely that's not what you are suggesting are you? Black people and Black communities are humans, too. Yes, institutional racism is a part of the Black experience in this country but surely you aren't suggesting that they are incapable of making bad decisions for reasons unrelated to their race?

DP but that's not the argument being made at all. It's clearly the argument you'd love to respond to, but fourteen leading questions don't make it so.

OP stated that Janney is the best school in the city (citation needed) and that the reason it is the best has nothing to do with parental wealth, only parental involvement (again, uncited assertion). Then she extrapolated from her baseless assertions that parents at other, presumably "bad" schools in the city are not involved parents, don't read to their kids, and use electronics to ignore them.

Then she said "why is everyone saying parental involvement doesn't matter????" This is not a good faith argument, and never was. This is an idiot (based on grammar and spelling at least) who thinks her husband's salary makes her a better parent than people who live in bounds for different schools. It would be embarrassing if she could even see what she was saying, but she only wants to hear herself talk, not listen.

Interesting. Instead of answering the question, you change the subject and resort to insults. That's, um, a great way to convince people you know what you are talking about. Moving along now .....

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Anonymous wrote:I feel conflicted about this. I guess it boils down to whether you think school choice is good or whether it hurt neighborhood schools. The easier it is to go to a "better" school across town the less incentive their is to invest in your community. I know I wouldn't send my kids to many of the schools in Wards 7 & 8 so I don't blame those families for looking for other options. But how will those schools improve and attract more families if everyone bails. Its complicated.

I love this white savior here.

It’s not just that black people and brown people are supposed to survive in a climate of racial prejudice, it’s also our job to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and improve failing schools as well.

The best elementary school in DC is Janney, in Ward 3. Ever given any thought as to why? Parental involvement. Parental involvement with the school, with DCPS, with their community AND WITH THEIR CHILDREN. Doesn't matter who you are, parental involvement - on multiple levels - is required for a school to be successful. You need a sizeable group of parents prioritizing education in their family and their community in order to make a school successful. Janney hasn't always been high performing and it hasn't always been crowded. Same with Deal and Wilson, which, not surprisingly, are the middle and high schools for Janney kids. Again, none of those 3 schools would be worth a damn without the parents involved in that school. That's what the PP is talking about. And, frankly, any parent in Ward 3 would understand exactly what PP was getting at with her comment. Parents investing in their neighborhood schools, community and their kids is the (not so) secret sauce. Not sure what racial prejudice has to do with anything and, in particular, why it would prevent you from reading to your children from the day they are born, filling your house with books, never buying them an electronic device, and taking them to the library and free Smithsonian museums whenever you have time to spend together.

are you saying that it is good parenting to "never buy your child an electronic device"? do you live in 1994?

PP here. Yes, I am. Electronic devices exist so parents can ignore their children.

Does that include the electronic device you're using to try to condescend to the world at large on DCUM? Because your kids could use a lesson plan for tomorrow. Why are you ignoring them? Do you want to get kicked out of Janney?

Focusing on an arguably inconsequential detail of my larger point, shows you have nothing.

Your larger point is just pontificating online about how awesome it is to be inbounds for the richest elementary in DC and attributing all the benefits of a high SES cohort to the moral fortitude of the parents. It's all nonsense that's been debunked a million times. It's not an argument, it's public masturbation.

IF all it took to make a school successful was money then please explain why all the millions of dollars that are plowed into the underperforming schools every single year doesn't make a difference. Also, are you really arguing that parental involvement doesn't matter?

High SES cohort and per pupil expenditure are not the same thing. Weird that your focus on education didn't result in any understanding of the issues.

Weird that you keep focusing on ridiculously trivial details. I'm fairly certain most heart surgeons and/or nuclear scientists do NOT understand what "SES cohort" means. Guess they are dumb too, huh? Seriously, why can't you just admit that PARENTING MATTERS? IS there something offensive about this statement?

Different poster. You’re equating good parenting with wealth and bad parenting with poverty and being black. So yeah, you sound racist af and offensive to anyone with shred of decency.

Side note, maybe you want to get off your phone and teach your kids how to be decent human beings so they don’t turn into you? Better yet, hire someone else as you don’t seem to have any decency, human kindness, or tolerance.

Sorry but that is YOUR equation. As I mentioned, my single, immigrant mom, working two jobs with zero support, raised us to value education, over all else. We lived in poverty growing up. It is not about money -- unless you are grasping for ways to defend bad parenting (i.e. parents who live in poverty are "too preoccupied" with the dysfunction around them to buy their kids books and provide incentives for finishing homework.) In any event, your approach isn't doing anyone any favors.. You can keep insulting people who speak the truth but it won't change the truth. Keep on throwing money at the problem and all that means is your tax dollars are being wasted.

And how does your single immigrant mom compare to everyone in the community you were raised in? Like your childhood is not the standard otherwise everyone else would do it. Also please don't compare your immigrant mother to native born people who have been living under systemic racism for generations. It's disingeous AF. Apples to Oranges.

Most of our neighbors were Black. Why does that matter? What "standard" are you talking about?? And why would systemic racism prevent anyone from being an attentive parent?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel conflicted about this. I guess it boils down to whether you think school choice is good or whether it hurt neighborhood schools. The easier it is to go to a "better" school across town the less incentive their is to invest in your community. I know I wouldn't send my kids to many of the schools in Wards 7 & 8 so I don't blame those families for looking for other options. But how will those schools improve and attract more families if everyone bails. Its complicated.

I love this white savior here.

It’s not just that black people and brown people are supposed to survive in a climate of racial prejudice, it’s also our job to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and improve failing schools as well.

The best elementary school in DC is Janney, in Ward 3. Ever given any thought as to why? Parental involvement. Parental involvement with the school, with DCPS, with their community AND WITH THEIR CHILDREN. Doesn't matter who you are, parental involvement - on multiple levels - is required for a school to be successful. You need a sizeable group of parents prioritizing education in their family and their community in order to make a school successful. Janney hasn't always been high performing and it hasn't always been crowded. Same with Deal and Wilson, which, not surprisingly, are the middle and high schools for Janney kids. Again, none of those 3 schools would be worth a damn without the parents involved in that school. That's what the PP is talking about. And, frankly, any parent in Ward 3 would understand exactly what PP was getting at with her comment. Parents investing in their neighborhood schools, community and their kids is the (not so) secret sauce. Not sure what racial prejudice has to do with anything and, in particular, why it would prevent you from reading to your children from the day they are born, filling your house with books, never buying them an electronic device, and taking them to the library and free Smithsonian museums whenever you have time to spend together.

Wow. Fwiw if kids had even a small chance of turning into this kind of racist monster, Janney sucks. Also I find Janney to be unimpressive but I guess I have high standards.

How do you see this as a racial issue? Just curious.

Because this poster is stating that low achievement schools, largely in black areas of the city, are low achieving due to poor parenting.

Your argument appears to be that any criticism of an area that is largely Black is racist. Is that correct? If so, I'm afraid I don't see the connection. If we were to follow your logic then it would never be possible to criticize people or neighborhoods that are Black. Surely that's not what you are suggesting are you? Black people and Black communities are humans, too. Yes, institutional racism is a part of the Black experience in this country but surely you aren't suggesting that they are incapable of making bad decisions for reasons unrelated to their race?

DP but that's not the argument being made at all. It's clearly the argument you'd love to respond to, but fourteen leading questions don't make it so.

OP stated that Janney is the best school in the city (citation needed) and that the reason it is the best has nothing to do with parental wealth, only parental involvement (again, uncited assertion). Then she extrapolated from her baseless assertions that parents at other, presumably "bad" schools in the city are not involved parents, don't read to their kids, and use electronics to ignore them.

Then she said "why is everyone saying parental involvement doesn't matter????" This is not a good faith argument, and never was. This is an idiot (based on grammar and spelling at least) who thinks her husband's salary makes her a better parent than people who live in bounds for different schools. It would be embarrassing if she could even see what she was saying, but she only wants to hear herself talk, not listen.

Interesting. Instead of answering the question, you change the subject and resort to insults. That's, um, a great way to convince people you know what you are talking about. Moving along now .....

Any time someone engages you, you accuse them of focusing on a trivial point (that you made) or changing the subject, and then try to handwave away the fact that your arguments are just a collection of braggadocious assertions that are not in any way supported or persuasive. Please do us all a favor and move along.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel conflicted about this. I guess it boils down to whether you think school choice is good or whether it hurt neighborhood schools. The easier it is to go to a "better" school across town the less incentive their is to invest in your community. I know I wouldn't send my kids to many of the schools in Wards 7 & 8 so I don't blame those families for looking for other options. But how will those schools improve and attract more families if everyone bails. Its complicated.

I love this white savior here.

It’s not just that black people and brown people are supposed to survive in a climate of racial prejudice, it’s also our job to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and improve failing schools as well.

The best elementary school in DC is Janney, in Ward 3. Ever given any thought as to why? Parental involvement. Parental involvement with the school, with DCPS, with their community AND WITH THEIR CHILDREN. Doesn't matter who you are, parental involvement - on multiple levels - is required for a school to be successful. You need a sizeable group of parents prioritizing education in their family and their community in order to make a school successful. Janney hasn't always been high performing and it hasn't always been crowded. Same with Deal and Wilson, which, not surprisingly, are the middle and high schools for Janney kids. Again, none of those 3 schools would be worth a damn without the parents involved in that school. That's what the PP is talking about. And, frankly, any parent in Ward 3 would understand exactly what PP was getting at with her comment. Parents investing in their neighborhood schools, community and their kids is the (not so) secret sauce. Not sure what racial prejudice has to do with anything and, in particular, why it would prevent you from reading to your children from the day they are born, filling your house with books, never buying them an electronic device, and taking them to the library and free Smithsonian museums whenever you have time to spend together.

Wow. Fwiw if kids had even a small chance of turning into this kind of racist monster, Janney sucks. Also I find Janney to be unimpressive but I guess I have high standards.

How do you see this as a racial issue? Just curious.

Because this poster is stating that low achievement schools, largely in black areas of the city, are low achieving due to poor parenting.

Your argument appears to be that any criticism of an area that is largely Black is racist. Is that correct? If so, I'm afraid I don't see the connection. If we were to follow your logic then it would never be possible to criticize people or neighborhoods that are Black. Surely that's not what you are suggesting are you? Black people and Black communities are humans, too. Yes, institutional racism is a part of the Black experience in this country but surely you aren't suggesting that they are incapable of making bad decisions for reasons unrelated to their race?

DP but that's not the argument being made at all. It's clearly the argument you'd love to respond to, but fourteen leading questions don't make it so.

OP stated that Janney is the best school in the city (citation needed) and that the reason it is the best has nothing to do with parental wealth, only parental involvement (again, uncited assertion). Then she extrapolated from her baseless assertions that parents at other, presumably "bad" schools in the city are not involved parents, don't read to their kids, and use electronics to ignore them.

Then she said "why is everyone saying parental involvement doesn't matter????" This is not a good faith argument, and never was. This is an idiot (based on grammar and spelling at least) who thinks her husband's salary makes her a better parent than people who live in bounds for different schools. It would be embarrassing if she could even see what she was saying, but she only wants to hear herself talk, not listen.

Interesting. Instead of answering the question, you change the subject and resort to insults. That's, um, a great way to convince people you know what you are talking about. Moving along now .....

Different poster- I don’t think your mom did a great job with you. Your clear bias against those who struggle with generational poverty is pretty gross. Furthermore, you sound profoundly and deeply ignorant. Moreover, Janney is neither the best school in school (by far) nor does it have the most parental involvement.

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Also- I’m not clear what Racist Janney Mom is trying to say here. Reading through the lines it seems she thinks that shuttle service to oob dcps and charters is a waste of money since poor people are bad parents anyway?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel conflicted about this. I guess it boils down to whether you think school choice is good or whether it hurt neighborhood schools. The easier it is to go to a "better" school across town the less incentive their is to invest in your community. I know I wouldn't send my kids to many of the schools in Wards 7 & 8 so I don't blame those families for looking for other options. But how will those schools improve and attract more families if everyone bails. Its complicated.

I love this white savior here.

It’s not just that black people and brown people are supposed to survive in a climate of racial prejudice, it’s also our job to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and improve failing schools as well.

The best elementary school in DC is Janney, in Ward 3. Ever given any thought as to why? Parental involvement. Parental involvement with the school, with DCPS, with their community AND WITH THEIR CHILDREN. Doesn't matter who you are, parental involvement - on multiple levels - is required for a school to be successful. You need a sizeable group of parents prioritizing education in their family and their community in order to make a school successful. Janney hasn't always been high performing and it hasn't always been crowded. Same with Deal and Wilson, which, not surprisingly, are the middle and high schools for Janney kids. Again, none of those 3 schools would be worth a damn without the parents involved in that school. That's what the PP is talking about. And, frankly, any parent in Ward 3 would understand exactly what PP was getting at with her comment. Parents investing in their neighborhood schools, community and their kids is the (not so) secret sauce. Not sure what racial prejudice has to do with anything and, in particular, why it would prevent you from reading to your children from the day they are born, filling your house with books, never buying them an electronic device, and taking them to the library and free Smithsonian museums whenever you have time to spend together.

Wow. Fwiw if kids had even a small chance of turning into this kind of racist monster, Janney sucks. Also I find Janney to be unimpressive but I guess I have high standards.

How do you see this as a racial issue? Just curious.

Because this poster is stating that low achievement schools, largely in black areas of the city, are low achieving due to poor parenting.

Your argument appears to be that any criticism of an area that is largely Black is racist. Is that correct? If so, I'm afraid I don't see the connection. If we were to follow your logic then it would never be possible to criticize people or neighborhoods that are Black. Surely that's not what you are suggesting are you? Black people and Black communities are humans, too. Yes, institutional racism is a part of the Black experience in this country but surely you aren't suggesting that they are incapable of making bad decisions for reasons unrelated to their race?

DP but that's not the argument being made at all. It's clearly the argument you'd love to respond to, but fourteen leading questions don't make it so.

OP stated that Janney is the best school in the city (citation needed) and that the reason it is the best has nothing to do with parental wealth, only parental involvement (again, uncited assertion). Then she extrapolated from her baseless assertions that parents at other, presumably "bad" schools in the city are not involved parents, don't read to their kids, and use electronics to ignore them.

Then she said "why is everyone saying parental involvement doesn't matter????" This is not a good faith argument, and never was. This is an idiot (based on grammar and spelling at least) who thinks her husband's salary makes her a better parent than people who live in bounds for different schools. It would be embarrassing if she could even see what she was saying, but she only wants to hear herself talk, not listen.

Interesting. Instead of answering the question, you change the subject and resort to insults. That's, um, a great way to convince people you know what you are talking about. Moving along now .....

Any time someone engages you, you accuse them of focusing on a trivial point (that you made) or changing the subject, and then try to handwave away the fact that your arguments are just a collection of braggadocious assertions that are not in any way supported or persuasive. Please do us all a favor and move along.

Yes, well considering you are incapable of original thought, I will stop wasting my time.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel conflicted about this. I guess it boils down to whether you think school choice is good or whether it hurt neighborhood schools. The easier it is to go to a "better" school across town the less incentive their is to invest in your community. I know I wouldn't send my kids to many of the schools in Wards 7 & 8 so I don't blame those families for looking for other options. But how will those schools improve and attract more families if everyone bails. Its complicated.

I love this white savior here.

It’s not just that black people and brown people are supposed to survive in a climate of racial prejudice, it’s also our job to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and improve failing schools as well.

The best elementary school in DC is Janney, in Ward 3. Ever given any thought as to why? Parental involvement. Parental involvement with the school, with DCPS, with their community AND WITH THEIR CHILDREN. Doesn't matter who you are, parental involvement - on multiple levels - is required for a school to be successful. You need a sizeable group of parents prioritizing education in their family and their community in order to make a school successful. Janney hasn't always been high performing and it hasn't always been crowded. Same with Deal and Wilson, which, not surprisingly, are the middle and high schools for Janney kids. Again, none of those 3 schools would be worth a damn without the parents involved in that school. That's what the PP is talking about. And, frankly, any parent in Ward 3 would understand exactly what PP was getting at with her comment. Parents investing in their neighborhood schools, community and their kids is the (not so) secret sauce. Not sure what racial prejudice has to do with anything and, in particular, why it would prevent you from reading to your children from the day they are born, filling your house with books, never buying them an electronic device, and taking them to the library and free Smithsonian museums whenever you have time to spend together.

Wow. Fwiw if kids had even a small chance of turning into this kind of racist monster, Janney sucks. Also I find Janney to be unimpressive but I guess I have high standards.

How do you see this as a racial issue? Just curious.

Because this poster is stating that low achievement schools, largely in black areas of the city, are low achieving due to poor parenting.

Your argument appears to be that any criticism of an area that is largely Black is racist. Is that correct? If so, I'm afraid I don't see the connection. If we were to follow your logic then it would never be possible to criticize people or neighborhoods that are Black. Surely that's not what you are suggesting are you? Black people and Black communities are humans, too. Yes, institutional racism is a part of the Black experience in this country but surely you aren't suggesting that they are incapable of making bad decisions for reasons unrelated to their race?

DP but that's not the argument being made at all. It's clearly the argument you'd love to respond to, but fourteen leading questions don't make it so.

OP stated that Janney is the best school in the city (citation needed) and that the reason it is the best has nothing to do with parental wealth, only parental involvement (again, uncited assertion). Then she extrapolated from her baseless assertions that parents at other, presumably "bad" schools in the city are not involved parents, don't read to their kids, and use electronics to ignore them.

Then she said "why is everyone saying parental involvement doesn't matter????" This is not a good faith argument, and never was. This is an idiot (based on grammar and spelling at least) who thinks her husband's salary makes her a better parent than people who live in bounds for different schools. It would be embarrassing if she could even see what she was saying, but she only wants to hear herself talk, not listen.

Interesting. Instead of answering the question, you change the subject and resort to insults. That's, um, a great way to convince people you know what you are talking about. Moving along now .....

Any time someone engages you, you accuse them of focusing on a trivial point (that you made) or changing the subject, and then try to handwave away the fact that your arguments are just a collection of braggadocious assertions that are not in any way supported or persuasive. Please do us all a favor and move along.

Yes, well considering you are incapable of original thought, I will stop wasting my time.

Imagine thinking "rich people are morally superior to poor people" is an original thought. Again: stop promising to shut up and do it.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel conflicted about this. I guess it boils down to whether you think school choice is good or whether it hurt neighborhood schools. The easier it is to go to a "better" school across town the less incentive their is to invest in your community. I know I wouldn't send my kids to many of the schools in Wards 7 & 8 so I don't blame those families for looking for other options. But how will those schools improve and attract more families if everyone bails. Its complicated.

I love this white savior here.

It’s not just that black people and brown people are supposed to survive in a climate of racial prejudice, it’s also our job to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and improve failing schools as well.

The best elementary school in DC is Janney, in Ward 3. Ever given any thought as to why? Parental involvement. Parental involvement with the school, with DCPS, with their community AND WITH THEIR CHILDREN. Doesn't matter who you are, parental involvement - on multiple levels - is required for a school to be successful. You need a sizeable group of parents prioritizing education in their family and their community in order to make a school successful. Janney hasn't always been high performing and it hasn't always been crowded. Same with Deal and Wilson, which, not surprisingly, are the middle and high schools for Janney kids. Again, none of those 3 schools would be worth a damn without the parents involved in that school. That's what the PP is talking about. And, frankly, any parent in Ward 3 would understand exactly what PP was getting at with her comment. Parents investing in their neighborhood schools, community and their kids is the (not so) secret sauce. Not sure what racial prejudice has to do with anything and, in particular, why it would prevent you from reading to your children from the day they are born, filling your house with books, never buying them an electronic device, and taking them to the library and free Smithsonian museums whenever you have time to spend together.

Wow. Fwiw if kids had even a small chance of turning into this kind of racist monster, Janney sucks. Also I find Janney to be unimpressive but I guess I have high standards.

How do you see this as a racial issue? Just curious.

Because this poster is stating that low achievement schools, largely in black areas of the city, are low achieving due to poor parenting.

Your argument appears to be that any criticism of an area that is largely Black is racist. Is that correct? If so, I'm afraid I don't see the connection. If we were to follow your logic then it would never be possible to criticize people or neighborhoods that are Black. Surely that's not what you are suggesting are you? Black people and Black communities are humans, too. Yes, institutional racism is a part of the Black experience in this country but surely you aren't suggesting that they are incapable of making bad decisions for reasons unrelated to their race?

DP but that's not the argument being made at all. It's clearly the argument you'd love to respond to, but fourteen leading questions don't make it so.

OP stated that Janney is the best school in the city (citation needed) and that the reason it is the best has nothing to do with parental wealth, only parental involvement (again, uncited assertion). Then she extrapolated from her baseless assertions that parents at other, presumably "bad" schools in the city are not involved parents, don't read to their kids, and use electronics to ignore them.

Then she said "why is everyone saying parental involvement doesn't matter????" This is not a good faith argument, and never was. This is an idiot (based on grammar and spelling at least) who thinks her husband's salary makes her a better parent than people who live in bounds for different schools. It would be embarrassing if she could even see what she was saying, but she only wants to hear herself talk, not listen.

Interesting. Instead of answering the question, you change the subject and resort to insults. That's, um, a great way to convince people you know what you are talking about. Moving along now .....

Different poster- I don’t think your mom did a great job with you. Your clear bias against those who struggle with generational poverty is pretty gross. Furthermore, you sound profoundly and deeply ignorant. Moreover, Janney is neither the best school in school (by far) nor does it have the most parental involvement.

I'm biased because I believe parental involvement is a key component of a child's educational success? News flash, this notion is nothing new. In addition, at what point will you stop making excuses for the dysfunction that comes with generational poverty?? Yes, it is a struggle but your low expectations for certain people is ....so typical of the White, privileged class in DC.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel conflicted about this. I guess it boils down to whether you think school choice is good or whether it hurt neighborhood schools. The easier it is to go to a "better" school across town the less incentive their is to invest in your community. I know I wouldn't send my kids to many of the schools in Wards 7 & 8 so I don't blame those families for looking for other options. But how will those schools improve and attract more families if everyone bails. Its complicated.

I love this white savior here.

It’s not just that black people and brown people are supposed to survive in a climate of racial prejudice, it’s also our job to pull ourselves up by our bootstraps and improve failing schools as well.

The best elementary school in DC is Janney, in Ward 3. Ever given any thought as to why? Parental involvement. Parental involvement with the school, with DCPS, with their community AND WITH THEIR CHILDREN. Doesn't matter who you are, parental involvement - on multiple levels - is required for a school to be successful. You need a sizeable group of parents prioritizing education in their family and their community in order to make a school successful. Janney hasn't always been high performing and it hasn't always been crowded. Same with Deal and Wilson, which, not surprisingly, are the middle and high schools for Janney kids. Again, none of those 3 schools would be worth a damn without the parents involved in that school. That's what the PP is talking about. And, frankly, any parent in Ward 3 would understand exactly what PP was getting at with her comment. Parents investing in their neighborhood schools, community and their kids is the (not so) secret sauce. Not sure what racial prejudice has to do with anything and, in particular, why it would prevent you from reading to your children from the day they are born, filling your house with books, never buying them an electronic device, and taking them to the library and free Smithsonian museums whenever you have time to spend together.

Wow. Fwiw if kids had even a small chance of turning into this kind of racist monster, Janney sucks. Also I find Janney to be unimpressive but I guess I have high standards.

How do you see this as a racial issue? Just curious.

Because this poster is stating that low achievement schools, largely in black areas of the city, are low achieving due to poor parenting.

Your argument appears to be that any criticism of an area that is largely Black is racist. Is that correct? If so, I'm afraid I don't see the connection. If we were to follow your logic then it would never be possible to criticize people or neighborhoods that are Black. Surely that's not what you are suggesting are you? Black people and Black communities are humans, too. Yes, institutional racism is a part of the Black experience in this country but surely you aren't suggesting that they are incapable of making bad decisions for reasons unrelated to their race?

DP but that's not the argument being made at all. It's clearly the argument you'd love to respond to, but fourteen leading questions don't make it so.

OP stated that Janney is the best school in the city (citation needed) and that the reason it is the best has nothing to do with parental wealth, only parental involvement (again, uncited assertion). Then she extrapolated from her baseless assertions that parents at other, presumably "bad" schools in the city are not involved parents, don't read to their kids, and use electronics to ignore them.

Then she said "why is everyone saying parental involvement doesn't matter????" This is not a good faith argument, and never was. This is an idiot (based on grammar and spelling at least) who thinks her husband's salary makes her a better parent than people who live in bounds for different schools. It would be embarrassing if she could even see what she was saying, but she only wants to hear herself talk, not listen.

Interesting. Instead of answering the question, you change the subject and resort to insults. That's, um, a great way to convince people you know what you are talking about. Moving along now .....

Any time someone engages you, you accuse them of focusing on a trivial point (that you made) or changing the subject, and then try to handwave away the fact that your arguments are just a collection of braggadocious assertions that are not in any way supported or persuasive. Please do us all a favor and move along.

Yes, well considering you are incapable of original thought, I will stop wasting my time.

Imagine thinking "rich people are morally superior to poor people" is an original thought. Again: stop promising to shut up and do it.

Oooooh, you've put on your big girl pants now.