NJ to teach gender lessons

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I am over 60 years old. I remember a girl who was taunted for being a "tomboy" when I was in grade school. Believe me, 6 years old is not too young to talk about this kind of stuff. That "girl" never really met her potential in school (and later life) because of this. I doubt that parents talked about it either.


My mom was a tomboy growing up. Growing up, she always hung out with the boys, loved sports, and hated girly things. As an adult, my mom identifies as female and heterosexual.


Your mom is lucky she wasn’t a kid in today’s climate. She may have been indoctrinated into thinking she was born into the wrong body for not confirming to regressive gender stereotypes. She would have been at risk for undergoing irreversible hormone treatments and surgeries. Please check out Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier.

LOL! Whatever, you loon.


You’re really not helping your argument. What specifically do you disagree with?


This paranoid gibberish:

...indoctrinated into thinking she was born into the wrong body for not confirming to regressive gender stereotypes. She would have been at risk for undergoing irreversible hormone treatments and surgeries. Please check out Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier.


This is exactly what’s happening. You’re simply unaware if you don’t believe it’s true. Go check out r/detrans for some stories.
Anonymous
It feels like democrats want to talk about gender way more often than we used to discuss gender. It isn’t allowing people to just be who they are without a specific identity label. I am just not in agreement that this is bringing about equality or tolerance.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.


This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.


+1 democrat
I swear to god I think it’s an effort to lose. Dems hate winning.


+100


I agree. While I think that it's important to teach students about tolerance for LGBT people, I'm not supportive of what Democrats are doing. Their intense focus on gender identity will only lead to backlash, which will ultimately harm the LGBT community.

Waitaminnit - WHOSE intense focus on gender identity? Are you joking? Because from where I stand the "intense focus" is coming from only one direction, and it ain't the Democrats.
Anonymous
I've been seeing this all over conservative social media today. The claim being that 2nd graders are supposed to be able to describe sex acts including oral sex. They are losing their minds, and suffice to say, not providing proven links.

https://www.facebook.com/DareToShareOBXNC
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I am over 60 years old. I remember a girl who was taunted for being a "tomboy" when I was in grade school. Believe me, 6 years old is not too young to talk about this kind of stuff. That "girl" never really met her potential in school (and later life) because of this. I doubt that parents talked about it either.


My mom was a tomboy growing up. Growing up, she always hung out with the boys, loved sports, and hated girly things. As an adult, my mom identifies as female and heterosexual.


Your mom is lucky she wasn’t a kid in today’s climate. She may have been indoctrinated into thinking she was born into the wrong body for not confirming to regressive gender stereotypes. She would have been at risk for undergoing irreversible hormone treatments and surgeries. Please check out Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier.

LOL! Whatever, you loon.


You’re really not helping your argument. What specifically do you disagree with?


This paranoid gibberish:

...indoctrinated into thinking she was born into the wrong body for not confirming to regressive gender stereotypes. She would have been at risk for undergoing irreversible hormone treatments and surgeries. Please check out Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier.


This is exactly what’s happening. You’re simply unaware if you don’t believe it’s true. Go check out r/detrans for some stories.

Yes, little Suzy wear overalls one day and next thing you know, her teacher has issued a legally enforceable order for their (NO GENDERED LANGUAGE ALLOWED!) parents to call them Steve and book the next available appojntment at the local transition surgeon's office. That's totally how it works.

Loon.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I've been seeing this all over conservative social media today. The claim being that 2nd graders are supposed to be able to describe sex acts including oral sex. They are losing their minds, and suffice to say, not providing proven links.

https://www.facebook.com/DareToShareOBXNC


I looked into it. Someone in NJ government messed up the header on their word doc. “Define vaginal, oral, and anal sex” is part of the 8th grade standards, but if you look at page 44, the top of the page said it’s part of 2nd grade. I wouldn’t be thrilled with it in 8th grade, but it’s certainly understandable that people are angry when it appears to be part of the second grade curriculum!!! https://www.nj.gov/education/standards/chp/Docs/2020NJSLS-CHPE_GradeBand_K-2.pdf
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I am over 60 years old. I remember a girl who was taunted for being a "tomboy" when I was in grade school. Believe me, 6 years old is not too young to talk about this kind of stuff. That "girl" never really met her potential in school (and later life) because of this. I doubt that parents talked about it either.


My mom was a tomboy growing up. Growing up, she always hung out with the boys, loved sports, and hated girly things. As an adult, my mom identifies as female and heterosexual.


Your mom is lucky she wasn’t a kid in today’s climate. She may have been indoctrinated into thinking she was born into the wrong body for not confirming to regressive gender stereotypes. She would have been at risk for undergoing irreversible hormone treatments and surgeries. Please check out Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier.

LOL! Whatever, you loon.


You’re really not helping your argument. What specifically do you disagree with?


This paranoid gibberish:

...indoctrinated into thinking she was born into the wrong body for not confirming to regressive gender stereotypes. She would have been at risk for undergoing irreversible hormone treatments and surgeries. Please check out Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier.


This is exactly what’s happening. You’re simply unaware if you don’t believe it’s true. Go check out r/detrans for some stories.

Yes, little Suzy wear overalls one day and next thing you know, her teacher has issued a legally enforceable order for their (NO GENDERED LANGUAGE ALLOWED!) parents to call them Steve and book the next available appojntment at the local transition surgeon's office. That's totally how it works.

Loon.


Glad to hear you agree that’s it’s crazy. So presumably you share parent’s anger when their kids change gender identity in school and the teachers and administrators deliberately hide it from the parents?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I am over 60 years old. I remember a girl who was taunted for being a "tomboy" when I was in grade school. Believe me, 6 years old is not too young to talk about this kind of stuff. That "girl" never really met her potential in school (and later life) because of this. I doubt that parents talked about it either.


My mom was a tomboy growing up. Growing up, she always hung out with the boys, loved sports, and hated girly things. As an adult, my mom identifies as female and heterosexual.


Your mom is lucky she wasn’t a kid in today’s climate. She may have been indoctrinated into thinking she was born into the wrong body for not confirming to regressive gender stereotypes. She would have been at risk for undergoing irreversible hormone treatments and surgeries. Please check out Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier.

LOL! Whatever, you loon.


You’re really not helping your argument. What specifically do you disagree with?


This paranoid gibberish:

...indoctrinated into thinking she was born into the wrong body for not confirming to regressive gender stereotypes. She would have been at risk for undergoing irreversible hormone treatments and surgeries. Please check out Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier.


This is exactly what’s happening. You’re simply unaware if you don’t believe it’s true. Go check out r/detrans for some stories.

Yes, little Suzy wear overalls one day and next thing you know, her teacher has issued a legally enforceable order for their (NO GENDERED LANGUAGE ALLOWED!) parents to call them Steve and book the next available appojntment at the local transition surgeon's office. That's totally how it works.

Loon.


Glad to hear you agree that I'm crazy. So presumably you share parent’s anger when their kids change gender identity in school and the teachers and administrators deliberately hide it from the parents?

I dunno, do you share that kid's terror and anger at the prospect of being beaten or thrown out like yesterday's trash if their teachers tell their parents?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I am over 60 years old. I remember a girl who was taunted for being a "tomboy" when I was in grade school. Believe me, 6 years old is not too young to talk about this kind of stuff. That "girl" never really met her potential in school (and later life) because of this. I doubt that parents talked about it either.


My mom was a tomboy growing up. Growing up, she always hung out with the boys, loved sports, and hated girly things. As an adult, my mom identifies as female and heterosexual.


Your mom is lucky she wasn’t a kid in today’s climate. She may have been indoctrinated into thinking she was born into the wrong body for not confirming to regressive gender stereotypes. She would have been at risk for undergoing irreversible hormone treatments and surgeries. Please check out Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier.

LOL! Whatever, you loon.


You’re really not helping your argument. What specifically do you disagree with?


This paranoid gibberish:

...indoctrinated into thinking she was born into the wrong body for not confirming to regressive gender stereotypes. She would have been at risk for undergoing irreversible hormone treatments and surgeries. Please check out Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier.


This is exactly what’s happening. You’re simply unaware if you don’t believe it’s true. Go check out r/detrans for some stories.

Yes, little Suzy wear overalls one day and next thing you know, her teacher has issued a legally enforceable order for their (NO GENDERED LANGUAGE ALLOWED!) parents to call them Steve and book the next available appojntment at the local transition surgeon's office. That's totally how it works.

Loon.


Glad to hear you agree that I'm crazy. So presumably you share parent’s anger when their kids change gender identity in school and the teachers and administrators deliberately hide it from the parents?

I dunno, do you share that kid's terror and anger at the prospect of being beaten or thrown out like yesterday's trash if their teachers tell their parents?


You think the majority of parents would react that way? So it’s appropriate for schools to hide this information from parents as a default, without doing any due diligence with the parents first?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I am over 60 years old. I remember a girl who was taunted for being a "tomboy" when I was in grade school. Believe me, 6 years old is not too young to talk about this kind of stuff. That "girl" never really met her potential in school (and later life) because of this. I doubt that parents talked about it either.


My mom was a tomboy growing up. Growing up, she always hung out with the boys, loved sports, and hated girly things. As an adult, my mom identifies as female and heterosexual.


Your mom is lucky she wasn’t a kid in today’s climate. She may have been indoctrinated into thinking she was born into the wrong body for not confirming to regressive gender stereotypes. She would have been at risk for undergoing irreversible hormone treatments and surgeries. Please check out Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier.

LOL! Whatever, you loon.


You’re really not helping your argument. What specifically do you disagree with?


This paranoid gibberish:

...indoctrinated into thinking she was born into the wrong body for not confirming to regressive gender stereotypes. She would have been at risk for undergoing irreversible hormone treatments and surgeries. Please check out Irreversible Damage by Abigail Shrier.


This is exactly what’s happening. You’re simply unaware if you don’t believe it’s true. Go check out r/detrans for some stories.

Yes, little Suzy wear overalls one day and next thing you know, her teacher has issued a legally enforceable order for their (NO GENDERED LANGUAGE ALLOWED!) parents to call them Steve and book the next available appojntment at the local transition surgeon's office. That's totally how it works.

Loon.


Instead of ridiculing, I strongly encourage you to spend 10 minutes and listen to the story of this heartbroken mother who has lost her daughter due to trans policies in her school district. https://youtu.be/M58PqUjezdM
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been seeing this all over conservative social media today. The claim being that 2nd graders are supposed to be able to describe sex acts including oral sex. They are losing their minds, and suffice to say, not providing proven links.

https://www.facebook.com/DareToShareOBXNC


I looked into it. Someone in NJ government messed up the header on their word doc. “Define vaginal, oral, and anal sex” is part of the 8th grade standards, but if you look at page 44, the top of the page said it’s part of 2nd grade. I wouldn’t be thrilled with it in 8th grade, but it’s certainly understandable that people are angry when it appears to be part of the second grade curriculum!!! https://www.nj.gov/education/standards/chp/Docs/2020NJSLS-CHPE_GradeBand_K-2.pdf


The thing is, those same people get upset at 2nd graders knowing the word "scrotum." The document is messed up, but it's not act like we're dealing with reasonable people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It feels like democrats want to talk about gender way more often than we used to discuss gender. It isn’t allowing people to just be who they are without a specific identity label. I am just not in agreement that this is bringing about equality or tolerance.


I couldn't agree more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why we emphasizing feeling like a boy or girl at age 6. I really thought as a society we were moving toward not emphasizing that there were “boy” or “girl” activities, feelings and toys for kids. These lessons seem like a step backwards into segregating into gender stereotypes.


This x1000. It’s absurd and disturbing. Wth does “feel like a girl or a boy” mean to 1st grader? But I also agree it can’t be discussed here. I think there will be a backlash.


+1 democrat
I swear to god I think it’s an effort to lose. Dems hate winning.


+100


I agree. While I think that it's important to teach students about tolerance for LGBT people, I'm not supportive of what Democrats are doing. Their intense focus on gender identity will only lead to backlash, which will ultimately harm the LGBT community.

Waitaminnit - WHOSE intense focus on gender identity? Are you joking? Because from where I stand the "intense focus" is coming from only one direction, and it ain't the Democrats.


DP. You must be joking. Talk about loon...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I've been seeing this all over conservative social media today. The claim being that 2nd graders are supposed to be able to describe sex acts including oral sex. They are losing their minds, and suffice to say, not providing proven links.

https://www.facebook.com/DareToShareOBXNC


I clicked on that link you provided, and this is what I saw. If you're ok with young children having to listen to this, then there's simply nothing else to discuss.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've been seeing this all over conservative social media today. The claim being that 2nd graders are supposed to be able to describe sex acts including oral sex. They are losing their minds, and suffice to say, not providing proven links.

https://www.facebook.com/DareToShareOBXNC


I clicked on that link you provided, and this is what I saw. If you're ok with young children having to listen to this, then there's simply nothing else to discuss.



Scroll down.

I don't know whether the "teachers" the site featured are real teachers or not. I'm referring to the NJ curriculum post a few posts down.

I have a gay adult daughter. No I don't think teachers should be getting into sex and gender details with 2nd graders. And frankly I don't believe most are.

I do think kids need to understand human biology including reproductive biology in scientific and age appropriate terms.
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