Harriet Tubman 10 years in a row

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I liked AP courses in high school. There was an actual curriculum, and an actual book! It was varied and interesting.

My youngest has a class project about role models every week. I think it's wonderful, but so far not one role model has been white- and it's April! My kid opined (and wasn't being sarcastic) that white men have been at the top for way too long because they've never invented or done anything.

What my kids learned at school from his teachers - white people suck

I mean, if the discussion is about how white people behaved at the population level for most of our nation's history, they do indeed suck. There were of course "righteous whites" throughout history, abolitionists, civil rights activists, etc, but they were in the minority for most of history. Only a very slight majority of white Americans supported the Civil Rights Act, for example, and even within that group a lot of folks felt President Johnson was moving too quickly on civil rights and the majority of white Southerners disapproved.

At the time of MLK's death, a third of Americans were willing to tell a pollster that he "brought his assassination on himself."

If we're going to ever have an honest conversation about our country's history, white children are going to need to hear some uncomfortable stuff about white Americans.

Oh for heaven's sake. The minority of EVERYONE of all races through history was probably "righteous" by modern historical standards. And probably a minority of people alive in the world today would meet your "righteous" standards for human rights. This is the problem with teaching like this. The people who spout off about white people being uniquely bad and the United States being uniquely racist are shockingly ignorant about world history, and apparently, current events.

+1 million

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This OP feels like a troll. Throws out a complaint, Doesn’t name the school, and doesn’t come back.

My kids went through MCPS… Fallsmead Frost Wootton And does not share the same experience as the OP who is complaining. My kids have learned about different African-Americans, not just a Harriet Tubman.

Same - did Dufief, Frost Wootton and learned about a variety of experiences. This is why I agree you should name the school. This really isn't happening everywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This OP feels like a troll. Throws out a complaint, Doesn’t name the school, and doesn’t come back.

My kids went through MCPS… Fallsmead Frost Wootton And does not share the same experience as the OP who is complaining. My kids have learned about different African-Americans, not just a Harriet Tubman.

Same - did Dufief, Frost Wootton and learned about a variety of experiences. This is why I agree you should name the school. This really isn't happening everywhere.

Maybe this isn't obvious to you, but they can't because this is just a fiction that the OP made up to troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is why those in a recent Yougov poll estimated that the U.S. population is 41% black, despite it only being 12%. Those complaining that our schools do not cover African American history are not familiar with the social studies content for the last 25 years.

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/03/15/americans-misestimate-small-subgroups-population

PP is being a little disingenuous here. It turns out Americans are absolutely terrible at estimating the population of literally any group. In fact, Black Americans are one of the groups that folks overestimated the least, at only 350%. Compare that to the overestimation of Jewish Americans at 1500%.

"When people’s average perceptions of group sizes are compared to actual population estimates, an intriguing pattern emerges: Americans tend to vastly overestimate the size of minority groups. This holds for sexual minorities, including the proportion of gays and lesbians (estimate: 30%, true: 3%), bisexuals (estimate: 29%, true: 4%), and people who are transgender (estimate: 21%, true: 0.6%).

It also applies to religious minorities, such as Muslim Americans (estimate: 27%, true: 1%) and Jewish Americans (estimate: 30%, true: 2%). And we find the same sorts of overestimates for racial and ethnic minorities, such as Native Americans (estimate: 27%, true: 1%), Asian Americans (estimate: 29%, true: 6%), and Black Americans (estimate: 41%, true: 12%)."

Nothing disingenuous at all. It means that when we spend all of our time trying to make sure that minorities have special months, celebrations, lesson plans and TV shows, it leads to a distortion in people's perceptions. The same is true of all those other minorities as well. If we planned to spend 12% of the curriculum on African American heritage, that would be great.

Are you even from moco/DC? Pretty sure you are not. Are you in America right now? Or some foreign country?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I liked AP courses in high school. There was an actual curriculum, and an actual book! It was varied and interesting.

My youngest has a class project about role models every week. I think it's wonderful, but so far not one role model has been white- and it's April! My kid opined (and wasn't being sarcastic) that white men have been at the top for way too long because they've never invented or done anything.

What my kids learned at school from his teachers - white people suck

This is a bit of hyperbole, but I kind of agree. I’m not even white, and I said this to my spouse.

My kid’s elementary school has a big poster when you walk in touting that girls should ‘Lead Like Kamala’. Umm, no thanks. Is this North Korea? With this crazy propaganda in our schools.

I am the mom of a smart, strong young lady. And Kamala Harris is NOT a role model in any way, shape or form.

You don’t think it is worth celebrating our first female and first black female Vice President? You don’t think that’s good for little girls, to see someone like them finally in a position of power? Do you know how hard women have fought for the right to vote, to run for office, to be electable??!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I liked AP courses in high school. There was an actual curriculum, and an actual book! It was varied and interesting.

My youngest has a class project about role models every week. I think it's wonderful, but so far not one role model has been white- and it's April! My kid opined (and wasn't being sarcastic) that white men have been at the top for way too long because they've never invented or done anything.

What my kids learned at school from his teachers - white people suck

This is a bit of hyperbole, but I kind of agree. I’m not even white, and I said this to my spouse.

My kid’s elementary school has a big poster when you walk in touting that girls should ‘Lead Like Kamala’. Umm, no thanks. Is this North Korea? With this crazy propaganda in our schools.

I am the mom of a smart, strong young lady. And Kamala Harris is NOT a role model in any way, shape or form.

You don’t think it is worth celebrating our first female and first black female Vice President? You don’t think that’s good for little girls, to see someone like them finally in a position of power? Do you know how hard women have fought for the right to vote, to run for office, to be electable??!

No. I do NOT think it’s worth celebrating Kamala Harris. She’s terrible. I have zero interest in my non-White child looking up to Harris as any kind of hero.

Can you tell me exactly what you think she has done as VP that should be celebrated?

If you worship her, that’s great. But schools (especially elementary schools) should not be pushing nonsense political propaganda on our young kids like this. It is actually pretty worrying for those of us who come from other countries. This is what leaders in other countries do to force their political beliefs onto the younger generation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why those in a recent Yougov poll estimated that the U.S. population is 41% black, despite it only being 12%. Those complaining that our schools do not cover African American history are not familiar with the social studies content for the last 25 years.

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/03/15/americans-misestimate-small-subgroups-population

PP is being a little disingenuous here. It turns out Americans are absolutely terrible at estimating the population of literally any group. In fact, Black Americans are one of the groups that folks overestimated the least, at only 350%. Compare that to the overestimation of Jewish Americans at 1500%.

"When people’s average perceptions of group sizes are compared to actual population estimates, an intriguing pattern emerges: Americans tend to vastly overestimate the size of minority groups. This holds for sexual minorities, including the proportion of gays and lesbians (estimate: 30%, true: 3%), bisexuals (estimate: 29%, true: 4%), and people who are transgender (estimate: 21%, true: 0.6%).

It also applies to religious minorities, such as Muslim Americans (estimate: 27%, true: 1%) and Jewish Americans (estimate: 30%, true: 2%). And we find the same sorts of overestimates for racial and ethnic minorities, such as Native Americans (estimate: 27%, true: 1%), Asian Americans (estimate: 29%, true: 6%), and Black Americans (estimate: 41%, true: 12%)."

Nothing disingenuous at all. It means that when we spend all of our time trying to make sure that minorities have special months, celebrations, lesson plans and TV shows, it leads to a distortion in people's perceptions. The same is true of all those other minorities as well. If we planned to spend 12% of the curriculum on African American heritage, that would be great.

Are you even from moco/DC? Pretty sure you are not. Are you in America right now? Or some foreign country?

Rockville. Why, do you think reasonable people in MoCo can't agree?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I liked AP courses in high school. There was an actual curriculum, and an actual book! It was varied and interesting.

My youngest has a class project about role models every week. I think it's wonderful, but so far not one role model has been white- and it's April! My kid opined (and wasn't being sarcastic) that white men have been at the top for way too long because they've never invented or done anything.

What my kids learned at school from his teachers - white people suck

This is a bit of hyperbole, but I kind of agree. I’m not even white, and I said this to my spouse.

My kid’s elementary school has a big poster when you walk in touting that girls should ‘Lead Like Kamala’. Umm, no thanks. Is this North Korea? With this crazy propaganda in our schools.

I am the mom of a smart, strong young lady. And Kamala Harris is NOT a role model in any way, shape or form.

You don’t think it is worth celebrating our first female and first black female Vice President? You don’t think that’s good for little girls, to see someone like them finally in a position of power? Do you know how hard women have fought for the right to vote, to run for office, to be electable??!

No. I do NOT think it’s worth celebrating Kamala Harris. She’s terrible. I have zero interest in my non-White child looking up to Harris as any kind of hero.

Can you tell me exactly what you think she has done as VP that should be celebrated?

If you worship her, that’s great. But schools (especially elementary schools) should not be pushing nonsense political propaganda on our young kids like this. It is actually pretty worrying for those of us who come from other countries. This is what leaders in other countries do to force their political beliefs onto the younger generation.

It’s the fact that Kamala Harris is in VP that the want kids to look up to, not her political beliefs. It’s the idea that a female can reach one of the highest offices in the land with hard work, determination, perseverance, and luck. It’s the idea of not giving up on your dreams even if they don’t seem plausible. It’s the idea that Kamala is a very current representation of that success and triumph.

You’re the one making it political.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This OP feels like a troll. Throws out a complaint, Doesn’t name the school, and doesn’t come back.

My kids went through MCPS… Fallsmead Frost Wootton And does not share the same experience as the OP who is complaining. My kids have learned about different African-Americans, not just a Harriet Tubman.

Same - did Dufief, Frost Wootton and learned about a variety of experiences. This is why I agree you should name the school. This really isn't happening everywhere.

Maybe this isn't obvious to you, but they can't because this is just a fiction that the OP made up to troll.

Yep as are these other silly fictions like "XYZ is so bad even though they're a minority and I'm a minority so I can criticize". It's all nonsense to spread their racist grievances.

[Anonymous]

The Russian trolls are out in force. Or are they Fox/OAN/Newsmax trolls? Who can tell these days!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Russian trolls are out in force. Or are they Fox/OAN/Newsmax trolls? Who can tell these days!

Yes, anyone who has an issue with MCPS MUST be a troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Russian trolls are out in force. Or are they Fox/OAN/Newsmax trolls? Who can tell these days!

Yes, anyone who has an issue with MCPS MUST be a troll.

Alas, most of the recent discussion has not been about MCPS or Harriet Tubman. Or haven't you been paying attention?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Russian trolls are out in force. Or are they Fox/OAN/Newsmax trolls? Who can tell these days!

Yes, anyone who has an issue with MCPS MUST be a troll.

It's not an MCPS discussion, it's a fomenting of the culture wars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Russian trolls are out in force. Or are they Fox/OAN/Newsmax trolls? Who can tell these days!

Yes, anyone who has an issue with MCPS MUST be a troll.

It's not an MCPS discussion, it's a fomenting of the culture wars.

It's obvious from the start that was the OP's intention. I don't even believe that they even have kids in MCPS and just post this to cause strife.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is why I liked AP courses in high school. There was an actual curriculum, and an actual book! It was varied and interesting.

My youngest has a class project about role models every week. I think it's wonderful, but so far not one role model has been white- and it's April! My kid opined (and wasn't being sarcastic) that white men have been at the top for way too long because they've never invented or done anything.

What my kids learned at school from his teachers - white people suck

This is a bit of hyperbole, but I kind of agree. I’m not even white, and I said this to my spouse.

My kid’s elementary school has a big poster when you walk in touting that girls should ‘Lead Like Kamala’. Umm, no thanks. Is this North Korea? With this crazy propaganda in our schools.

I am the mom of a smart, strong young lady. And Kamala Harris is NOT a role model in any way, shape or form.

You don’t think it is worth celebrating our first female and first black female Vice President? You don’t think that’s good for little girls, to see someone like them finally in a position of power? Do you know how hard women have fought for the right to vote, to run for office, to be electable??!

No. I do NOT think it’s worth celebrating Kamala Harris. She’s terrible. I have zero interest in my non-White child looking up to Harris as any kind of hero.

Can you tell me exactly what you think she has done as VP that should be celebrated?

If you worship her, that’s great. But schools (especially elementary schools) should not be pushing nonsense political propaganda on our young kids like this. It is actually pretty worrying for those of us who come from other countries. This is what leaders in other countries do to force their political beliefs onto the younger generation.

It’s the fact that Kamala Harris is in VP that the want kids to look up to, not her political beliefs. It’s the idea that a female can reach one of the highest offices in the land with hard work, determination, perseverance, and luck. It’s the idea of not giving up on your dreams even if they don’t seem plausible. It’s the idea that Kamala is a very current representation of that success and triumph.

You’re the one making it political.

LOL. She is a politician. Of course, it’s political.

And no, Kamala Harris did not get to be VP due to her hard work and determination.

If you want to place a value on hard work and determination (which I can agree with), then there are PLENTY of other less-famous and less-political females that the school can use as role models.